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The complexities of Sudan

shack

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Sometimes even AIPAC can't buy enough votes.
I didn't know that the name "Israel" was on the ballot.
Regardless, this will not change the US support for Israel.
 

shack

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Exactly what does Israel do for the US? Please tell me.
The US has lots of interests in the Middle East and Israel has one of, if not the best intelligence departments in the world and they keep the US very well informed of what is going on. They help the US to keep those interests protected. They also are the only democracy in the region and provide a strong deterrence to Iran, a mortal enemy to the US.

Do you think that the US has supported Israel for 75 years because of it's recipes for chicken noodle soup and pastrami? The US is looking out for #1, which is the US. So it's obvious that Israel is helping the US in some way(s). Use your imagination.
 

shack

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I don't know, shack.
You have opinions on everything and are never shy to share your opinion. Why not now.

In your opinion how many Israeli Jews are Zionists. What's your estimate?

You hate all Jews but are afraid to say so. So let's put it on the record and make it official. In your opinion all Jews in Israel are Zionists and you therefore hate all Jews in Israel.

Until you actually state that your opinion is different and you have a different number, it means that you accept my statement my and my statement stands.

Frank has admitted that he hates all Jews in Israel because he feels that they are all Zionists.

But, maybe you hate them all regardless of their position on Zionism. That's another possibility and you're just using Zionism as a false flag.
 

Frankfooter

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No it's not. For many, it's because jews are not involved so these threads don't get spammed with dumb statements and twitter links.
Its only zionists that talk about 'the Jews'.
The rest of us are discussing zionists and Israeli government policy.

You do realize that your attitude makes Jews unsafe globally?
 

Frankfooter

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You hate all Jews but are afraid to say so.

Frank has admitted that he hates all Jews in Israel because he feels that they are all Zionists.

shack counter:
12 accusations of lying, 17 intentional misquotes - 0 proof

Not all Jews are zionists and not all zionists are Jews.
In the US most zionists are wacko born again christians hoping Israel will bring about armaggedon.
 

basketcase

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Just like how easy it is for you yell CEASEFIRE for the last 10 weeks while 15,000 Palestinians unnecessarily die instead of calling for a surrender and a release of the hostages.

It proves how easy it is for you to watch them die.
And he stays silent that it was Hamas who rejected the latest ceasefire deal arranged by Qatar, Egypt, and the US.

Then he goes on to claim that the ceasefire has to be permanent before while also rejecting any kind of nego5tiated peace.
 

basketcase

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Israel is apartheid, not democratic.
Thanks for disproving your apartheid claim. Any Israeli can vote for any party they want regardless of religion or ethnicity.

meanwhile you reject democratic principles every time you pretend to want a One State Peace that Palestinians overwhelmingly reject. Democracy is based on the Palestinians self determination not to become Israelis; the Palestinians with all the guns hating the idea that you and your white saviour complex has you demanding.
 

basketcase

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Of course I care about Palestinians, Sudanese, the Ukrainians etc., We are not talking about what I care/don't care about...
Yet your whole contribution to this thread has been to bitch and moan that I brought the topic up.
 

Leimonis

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You brought Israel into a thread about Sudan, proving your insincerity regarding your intent.
wasn't the intent to show that no one cares about 3rd world people dying unless jews are involved?
 

basketcase

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Link please.

Vox and real Life Lore have some good explainers.
 

basketcase

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You brought Israel into a thread about Sudan, proving your insincerity regarding your intent.
As insincere as you pretending to care about massive suffering in Sudan?

And yes, shitting on people obsessed with Israel for ignoring suffering in other places is completely valid.
 

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Frankfooter

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And he stays silent that it was Hamas who rejected the latest ceasefire deal arranged by Qatar, Egypt, and the US.

Then he goes on to claim that the ceasefire has to be permanent before while also rejecting any kind of nego5tiated peace.
I can't imagine why Hamas wouldn't accept a short ceasefire so they can return all the hostages and then promptly have the genocide resume on them.
Its such a good deal.

Zionists are so miserable.


 
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