The 2024 US Presidential election
- Thread starter Phil C. McNasty
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Listen, you in the first place was the one coming up with this ridiculous number of 20 million votes lost.
What are these 20 million that you are referring to, as you have not precisely clarified that number?
I already answered the voter ID question. Again first time voters are supposed to show that ID.
Others who have voted in the past do not have to do so. They will have to confirm their age and address when they show up.
If no fraud have been detected and the only ones who have been prosecuted are mainly Republicans, then what is your issue?
Why do you not support showing photo ID every time someone votes?
You keep avoiding the question.
So when I vote in Canada I am required to bring photo I.D., my voter card, and proof of address. Why is this so onerous? It's a very simple thing to produce. They give you multiple options to use.
Why would only producing it once be sufficient? Do you think the poll workers remember every voter every 2 and 4 years?
That's ridiculous. Are you saying the basic requirements of pretty much every Western nation are to stringent for only the USA?
Canada isn't using Voter ID to try and skew the vote, though.
Try a simple thought exercise.
"They give you multiple options to use."
(They even let you vote without ID here in Canada. https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e)
What if they didn't?
What if they were very careful to restrict the options you could use?
Where did you come up with the 20 million votes?
You have not even attempted to answer this question though I clearly answered your question. Just answer a question for a change!!
This Photo ID is a requirement in Canada. Our laws are different to that in some of the US States. Do you think that a photo ID was always a requirement when elections were first introduced in the USA? Who said that poll workers are supposed to remember those voters? There are questions asked, that the voters have to respond correctly, otherwise it is a criminal offence to lie!!
But butler as you chimed in, can you tell me why voter frauds in most cases leads to prosecutions of Republicans?
How does it skew the vote? Are you trying to say certain demographics are Incapable of presenting I.D? Other nations don't. Please explain.
Butler, I answered the question umpteen times. But why can you not answer why The Republicans are the mainly the ones to be prosecuted for voter fraud in spite of those voter IDs being legislated in some of those States?
Republican former congressional candidate charged with stealing ballots in Indiana
Larry Savage was participating in a test of the voting system in Madison county when police say he took two ballots
Republican former congressional candidate charged with stealing ballots in Indiana
Larry Savage was participating in a test of the voting system in Madison county when police say he took two ballots
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There have been numbers that range from 8 million to 20 million. Is 8 million an insignificant number to you even if that were it? Stop distracting.
You haven't answered anything. You just keep repeating the same bs over and over again.
here...let me prove it to you:
Why don't you support every voter having to show photo ID when casting their vote?
He won't answer that question.
He would rather deflect than come to terms with his own hypocrisy.
No you didn't. Your answer was the rules are the rules. That's not an answer.Butler, I answered the question umpteen times. But why can you not answer why The Republicans are the mainly the ones to be prosecuted for voter fraud in spite of those voter IDs being legislated in some of those States?
Republican former congressional candidate charged with stealing ballots in Indiana
Larry Savage was participating in a test of the voting system in Madison county when police say he took two ballots
Republican former congressional candidate charged with stealing ballots in Indiana
Larry Savage was participating in a test of the voting system in Madison county when police say he took two ballots
What is wrong with Mandatory I.D.?
Good lord, Butler.
This is simple and well documented.
You make the laws to accept ID your voters are more likely to have and reject ID voters of other parties are more likely to have.
For instance: gun owners mostly vote Republican, students mostly vote Democrat.
Therefore you pass an ID law that makes gun permits legal ID to vote but student IDs are not allowed.
There is a REASON Canada has a huge list of options, not all of which are photo ID, and even the option not to have ID.
Because the point is to make sure the system runs smoothly and you that the voting rolls are accurate and that everyone allowed to vote CAN vote.
That's not the point of "strict ID" laws in the US. The point of those is to restrict the franchise and preferably restrict it in ways that rig the system in your favour.
Now, I see later in the thread you are against the Canadian laws as well, since they provide too many options, so it seems this is just another one of those things we disagree about.
Voter ID is a good deterrent for election cheating...why are you liberals so against it?
