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The 2024 US Presidential election

Bucktee

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If Harris was smart, she would have rejected being anointed as the Democratic nominee for president.

Being an instrumental part of a failed incumbent administration and running as Biden 2.0 was a setup for an unsurprising loss. She put herself in an impossible position and was too stupid to realize it.

Her hunger for power, her unchallenged opportunity at a direct run for president, and her arrogance in believing she could easily defeat Trump with the media's backing, is why she failed miserably.
 

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im betting the weekly (daily?) Hamas parades in cities across America did not help the Dems. I’m not sure leaning even further into the Hamas demo would have been a winning strategy.
Youth, minorities and Muslims all had issues voting for someone actively aiding genocide.
She knew it and made her choice, even while Netanyahu worked against her campaign.
That was idiotic politically, and she will now be remembered as Holocaust Harris.

 

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If Harris was smart, she would have rejected being anointed as the Democratic nominee for president.

Being an instrumental part of a failed incumbent administration and running as Biden 2.0 was a setup for an unsurprising loss. She put herself in an impossible position and was too stupid to realize it.

Her hunger for power, her unchallenged opportunity at a direct run for president, and her arrogance in believing she could easily defeat Trump with the media's backing, is why she failed miserably.
I put a lot less blame on Harris personally. Yes she is a terrible candidate, but none of this was explicitly her doing. She is just another cog in the DNC-Legacy Media machine.
 
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Dear Oprah, Beyonce, Barack Hussein, Big Mike, Cardi B, Taylor Swift, Meryl Streep, Whoopi & The View, Robert DeNiro, Alyssa Milano, Rachel Maddow and every other useless, elitist, condescending and out-of-touch narcissist who pushed Kamala: YOU. DON’T. MATTER. ANYMORE. America saw right through you! We did it, America! WE DID IT!!!
 
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Skoob

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its its a good thing. We are far better off with social networks to get information. Everyone there is factually right and impartial.
I partially agree. While mainstream media is susceptible to more influence from shareholders, social media can be quite the wild west.

I think both need to be considered and kept honest by considering all sources of truth and lies.
 
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I put a lot less blame on Harris personally. Yes she is a terrible candidate, but none of this was explicitly her doing. She is just another cog in the DNC-Legacy Media machine.
I don't blame Harris either - the DNC has chosen to completely ignore rural America and it's cost them dearly in two of the last three cycles. That combined with Biden's horrible decision to run again....Much to my personal chagrin, progressivism in the US got dunked on. No idea where they go from here.
 

WyattEarp

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Much to my personal chagrin, progressivism in the US got dunked on. No idea where they go from here.
Some of progressivism has some political appeal, but as a broad movement or package it does not. Political parties regroup and repackage their message. It's the normal state of affairs. The Republicans now have to deliver. It's not an easy job running the U.S.

The Democrats have a big task because their almost obsessive focus has been Donald Trump and his character for eight years. They need to develop a stronger identity that resonates with average people. It will be interesting to see what the Republicans do beyond Trump.

With that, let's also realize that the electoral college can magnify the result.
 
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Bucktee

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id love to see a pragmatic, popular progressivism take hold, but I’ve long since given up on that.
That's what Trump is and it's why he got elected.

You have to get through his narcissism, mean-spirited vitriol, and bullying to see it... but that's what he is.

Liberals are a cross between traditional neocons (Cheney et al. big money elites for war) and radical leftism (gender conversion for kids, men in women's sports is okay but the patriarchy is evil, soft on crime and illegal immigration as you watch your city descend into chaos). They inhabit a rotten and very sick political space.
 
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