Don't over think,guys. Pay JD what the market will pay for 3rd baseman slugger and the contract will be heavily front loaded. Then, a couple of years in the back-end pays him DH rates. Because by that time you would hope one of the kids will be ready to take over the infield jobs.
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That is how I took it. Did you notice how a few of the times he had a lengthy pause to think how he wanted to phrase things in a particular way? Can't blame him, but he knows that this is a business, and he was every bit the businessman.
I think if Jays do keep Donaldson (and I'm conflicted and do sorta want him to stay) he should be good for at least 3 top seasons before he trails off.
And by top season I mean 30-35+ homeruns, 95+ ribbies and around a .270 BA
And by top season I mean 30-35+ homeruns, 95+ ribbies and around a .270 BA
Yeah, and that begs the question again, do you keep him long-term or trade him this upcoming year so you get some value for him in return???
The risk you have to take.
They plan on competing next. They had one of the worst offences in baseball this year, you can't take that bat out of the line up.
It depends on what the team's primary goal is. When do they really think they have the chance to make a run? Does competing next year have greater priority than competing 3 years down the road?
They have said they want to "compete" next year. People seem to think that means taking a run at the World Series. But that could easily be interpreted as, "We don't want to look like fools out there next year." The latter is a very different scenario.
If the Jays really want to take a run in 3 years, then trading Donaldson is the right move, if you get an offer you can't refuse. Namely someone who can help you now plus good prospects. That's not popular with the fans but from an organizational perspective, it's the right move (assuming your run is in a few years, not next year).
The fans want the new GM to prove himself and, ironically, making the right move (trading Donaldson) may be the real litmus test.
They have said they want to "compete" next year. People seem to think that means taking a run at the World Series. But that could easily be interpreted as, "We don't want to look like fools out there next year." The latter is a very different scenario.
If the Jays really want to take a run in 3 years, then trading Donaldson is the right move, if you get an offer you can't refuse. Namely someone who can help you now plus good prospects. That's not popular with the fans but from an organizational perspective, it's the right move (assuming your run is in a few years, not next year).
The fans want the new GM to prove himself and, ironically, making the right move (trading Donaldson) may be the real litmus test.
Donaldson Is eligible for arbitration, he will get a huge contract but unless they can get him to extend, it will be a 1 year contract. If they don't or can't sign him Jays get notta. So they will probably find out what it will take to sign him long term. He said he wants to stay here and this is one way to find out how serious he is and what he expects for compensation. Makes the decision clearer.
So long as the Blue Jays offer Donaldson a qualifying offer (next offseason) they will get a draft pick.
I know rumors are usually bullshit, but supposedly Mets and Cards have inquired about JD:
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...ected-to-chase-josh-donaldson-this-offseason/
http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2017/10/mlb_trade_rumors_mets_going_after_blue_jays_josh_d.html
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...ected-to-chase-josh-donaldson-this-offseason/
http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2017/10/mlb_trade_rumors_mets_going_after_blue_jays_josh_d.html
If they finished last with 75 wins would have been the same. Gibbons or any manager can only do so much with the players the GM provides - at some point the players have to perform.
