Yup people who belong to unions are all the same.
All cops are the same.
All waste management engineers are the same.
All athletes are the same.
Whatever.
Just a poor attempt at justifying your character assasination.
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All cops are the same.
All waste management engineers are the same.
All athletes are the same.
Whatever.
Just a poor attempt at justifying your character assasination.
I find it amusing that we talk about the "real world" yet how is it that we had bailouts left and right happening? Aren't bail outs not supposed to happen in the real world?That line always makes me laugh. I'm in the private sector but still wondering what this 'real world' is. Is it like the imaginary views of how good things 'used to be' or is it simply a nonsense comment that people pull out when they think life is unfair and someone else is getting something they aren't?
I figure that like me, teachers are paid to do a job. that seems real enough to me.
If the activity is under the umbrella of a school team then yes a teacher must be there even if someone from the community who is not a teacher is the actual coach.So I guess you have never been to a soccer field, a base ball diamond or a skating rink ???
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Good question. I like that he continues to post as it shows his true colours. Not to mention that he refused to say what his occupation was. That too is very telling.In the end, who cares what JohnLarue thinks?
No I have a hate on for anyone who expects others to carry the weight for them and who does not respect the taxpayerNo. JL has a hate on for teachers.... masked behind a "it's all about the budget" line. And by masked, I really mean thinly veiled. Some might even argue that there's no attempt to hide the contempt.
It does not sound great, it is greatWhat I find amusing is that 90K after 11 years of teaching and 3 months holidays sounds so great.
It is significantly above what the average taxpayer makes
It is also significant above what most private sector employees with post secondary education make even after 20 years experience
I would wager that less than one in 1000 teachers could obtain a private sector position that pays the equivalent salary.
And not a single teacher could obtain a private sector position that pays the equivalent salary for only 9 1/2 months work
The value of the job security teachers have is also extremely valuable.
20 Sick days a year ? More like 5-10, Banking them? forget about it
Pension ? You would be very hard pressed to find a private sector position with such a rich pension.
The value of the job security teachers have is also extremely valuable. The reality is that on Monday some private sector employee will lose his / her job because of the current state of the economy. How much is immunity from that risk worth to you?
You would be well advised to take a step back and re-evaluate what an extra ordinary deal you have
Any hate on I have is due to the lack of respect for what a great deal you have and a lack of respect for the taxpayer who funds that over the top (and excessive) deal
Hey I never said it was bad.
But again if you want to compare teachers with 5 yrs university to teh avg canadian in a straight up salary comparision that is unfair. We all know that higher education means higher income.
But again if you want to compare teachers with 5 yrs university to teh avg canadian in a straight up salary comparision that is unfair. We all know that higher education means higher income.
How does union negotiator sound to you?Good question. I like that he continues to post as it shows his true colours. Not to mention that he refused to say what his occupation was. That too is very telling.
I am contemplating a career change and there appears to be a real need for some common sense in this field
I have explained this before.
I keep my occupation private as I do not wish to open the kimono to the Internet
Particularly on a escort chat board
It is a personal choice and I will ask you to respect that choice.
I noticed you have not reveled the specific school where you teach.
That would be a mistake, you would later regret
If you apply common sense to divulging an occupation on the INTERNET you should come to the same conclusion I have.
Unfair???Hey I never said it was bad.
But again if you want to compare teachers with 5 yrs university to teh avg canadian in a straight up salary comparision that is unfair. We all know that higher education means higher income.
You sitting on your ass for all of June, July and Aug and getting paid 90K is the definition of unfair
Unfair??
You are on glue
Two degrees and 12 months of work does not guarantee a 90K salary in the private sector
JUst a poor attempt at justifying excessive compensation and dismising bad behaviour by the members of YOUR collective bargining unitJust a poor attempt at justifying your character assasination.
If you want to reap the rewards from acting as a group, then your character is judged as a group
You can not seperate those two
Does this justify your position???I find it amusing that we talk about the "real world" yet how is it that we had bailouts left and right happening? Aren't bail outs not supposed to happen in the real world?
Two wrongs make a right?
Nut jobs are not suppose to fly planes into buildings either
Just the well-informed and smart ones care.In the end, who cares what JohnLarue thinks?
It is sad , but true
"I would wager that less than one in 1000 teachers could obtain a private sector position that pays the equivalent salary.
And not a single teacher could obtain a private sector position that pays the equivalent salary for only 9 1/2 months work"
I would take you up on that wager in a heart beat. When you're so biased against a profession you make irrational statements like the ones above. You clearly have it in your mind that the private sector is filled with the best and the brightest and the teaching profession is filled with idiots. Not so my friend. Keep wearing the blinders. I don't think you realize the calibre of student you need to be to get into the better teacher programmes in Ont.
And not a single teacher could obtain a private sector position that pays the equivalent salary for only 9 1/2 months work"
I would take you up on that wager in a heart beat. When you're so biased against a profession you make irrational statements like the ones above. You clearly have it in your mind that the private sector is filled with the best and the brightest and the teaching profession is filled with idiots. Not so my friend. Keep wearing the blinders. I don't think you realize the calibre of student you need to be to get into the better teacher programmes in Ont.
He is a fan of hyperbole"I would wager that less than one in 1000 teachers could obtain a private sector position that pays the equivalent salary.
And not a single teacher could obtain a private sector position that pays the equivalent salary for only 9 1/2 months work"
I would take you up on that wager in a heart beat. When you're so biased against a profession you make irrational statements like the ones above. You clearly have it in your mind that the private sector is filled with the best and the brightest and the teaching profession is filled with idiots. Not so my friend. Keep wearing the blinders. I don't think you realize the calibre of student you need to be to get into the better teacher programmes in Ont.
Where did I say it justifies my position? Just pointing out the real world is not as harsh as you make it out to be otherwise...... the US car industry and banking would be pretty much gone as we know it.Does this justify your position???
Two wrongs make a right?
Nut jobs are not suppose to fly planes into buildings either
Quite possibly a teacher's college reject.He is a fan of hyperbole
I doubt it. I'm pretty sure he's a trades person. He's quick to give their dodging of taxes a break under the quise of it being too difficult (this from a guy who prides on long term thinking).Quite possibly a teacher's college reject.
You would lose"I would wager that less than one in 1000 teachers could obtain a private sector position that pays the equivalent salary.
And not a single teacher could obtain a private sector position that pays the equivalent salary for only 9 1/2 months work"
I would take you up on that wager in a heart beat. When you're so biased against a profession you make irrational statements like the ones above. You clearly have it in your mind that the private sector is filled with the best and the brightest and the teaching profession is filled with idiots. Not so my friend. Keep wearing the blinders. I don't think you realize the calibre of student you need to be to get into the better teacher programmes in Ont.
There is an old saying, those that can't,,,,, teach
No way teachers could find the equivalent pay in the private sector
Yeah but you said less than 1/1000 but the prevalance of masters and phds is probably higher than that.You would lose
There is an old saying, those that can't,,,,, teach
No way teachers could find the equivalent pay in the private sector
Furthermore, as tolf pointed out admissions to teachers college in ontario has gotten harder and harder in terms of competition.
And you're discounting that some people might actually choose teaching because they enjoy it even though they could have applied to medical school or law school or become a contractor,
