With Trump deliberately devaluing his leverage on NATO, I'd expect NATO to start looking for EU places to spend their defence dollars rather than Boeing, LockMart, etc.
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That's why I don't believe the U.S. is serious about any long term decoupling from NATO.
Too much at stake re: security, influence and $$$.
It makes zero sense.
I'm sorry the numbers aren't there to support this idea. Canadian banks and think tanks have been discussing structural stagnation. Sure, you can blame Harper. I'm not sure that's a constructive approach.If this were true, we'd never have a conservative prime minister again.
Canada GDP Per Capita 1960-2025
GDP per capita is gross domestic product divided by midyear population. GDP is the sum of gross value added by all resident producers in the economy plus any product taxes and minus any subsidies not included in the value of the products. It is calculated without making deductions for...www.macrotrends.net
Look at the explosion of GDP under Chretien, and how Harper immediately stalls, then reverses the growth.
Trudeau undid Harpers harm, got stymied by COVID, and has recovered again.
PS- The articles are out there. These aren't all really partisan outlets. I think the CBC has covered it.
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Not quite and you are referencing the wrong books in this case...
You may want to refer to the Little Red Book and others such as the Communist Manifesto.
Those are much more in line with the way you have presented yourself.
Unless President Trump, decoupled from consequences by the supreme court, feels like he and his "known associate" Vlad can carve up the world between them.
He has the instincts of a child, and the US just gave this child the largest military in the world. The man puts his name on gold buildings. Don't you think he's the kind of guy who'd like to put his name on whole countries?
I mean, it's not like there's anything supporting this:
‘Trump Gaza’ AI video intended as political satire, says creator
Film-maker reacts after US president shares video on his Truth Social account last week
www.theguardian.com
If Canadians were getting as mad at the upcoming 20% increase to the carbon tax maybe our country wouldn't be in such a mess.
Why is it so hard to buy booze from another province? Blame trade barriers - National | Globalnews.ca
Some experts say one sector in which Canada’s interprovincial trade barriers are most evident is the sale and purchase of alcohol across provincial lines.globalnews.ca
The argument is over when name calling starts.
Name calling is a sign of weakness and a typical distraction used when someone can't hold up their end of the argument. It's immature and desperate, done when someone realizes they've lost the argument.
In other words, you lost this one.
Sorry.
Says a Trudeau supporter who has kept him in office for a decade. Lol!Exactly, conned by a conman.
So you have nothing left to debate with is what you are really saying .... Got it.
I don't care for tariffs on Canada because I think we have a good, integrated economic relationship.
However, I think U.S. tariffs are necessary with some chronic trade abusers.
I wouldn't compare today's Democrats to 1980-1990 Democrats. You probably don't remember, but Bill Clinton ran and governed as a centrist. It's too simple and gets back to my recent comment about relying on sweeping platitudes.
I have a feeling that Trudeau has governed very differently than Chrétien and even his father.
If Canadians understood issues, maybe we wouldn't be in such a mess.
Before (Conservative Premier) Doug Ford killed it, Ontario was in a cap-and-trade system that generated revenue (about 300mill/year) for the province, from US states. Free money on the backs of competing economies. This money was re-invested into energy retrofits for public buildings. Free money on the backs of competing economies that LOWERED the cost of government.
While the cap and trade system was in place, Ontarians paid $0 in carbon tax.
(Conservative Premier) Doug Ford, knowing that the federal backstop was in place and that the federal backstop would get more expensive over time, killed this free-money agreement. Now you, the Ontario Taxpayer, feel the burden of the Carbon Tax, even though you'd need to be relatively wealthy to pay more than your rebate. This was done to make people mad at (Liberal Prime Minister) Justin Trudeau, and improve the conservative brand by comparison.
Now, the carbon tax is increasing from $80/tonne to $95/tonne. An increase of 18.75%. The middle-aged-men-who-record-videos-in-their-cars set is REALLY MAD about this. Forgetting that the only reason they are paying it is because of Doug Ford's intentional sabotage.
Pointless to debate with someone who can only offer name calling and insults to distract from the topic right?
I provided my arguments respectfully because I don't need to distract with name calling.
If someone can't debate the points and has to name call then that's essentially admission that they can't argue.
Which is why I won this one.
Let's all move on shall we.
You're blaming Ford for a national carbon tax ponzi scheme that has compounded the issue of affordability?
Hahha that's funny.
Meanwhile, Liberals are rejecting it after supporting the scheme for a decade.
Your rage is misplaced.
Yes, but in a lot of ways Daddy Bush is further left than Kamala. H.W. passed the Clean Air Act (woke), and the Americans with Disabilities Act (DEI). NIXON created the EPA. The Overton window in the US and Canada has shifted right.
If one lives in a world where one has to believe the narrative that everything Trump advocates is wrong, this decoupling thing is gospel.
If you step away from this rhetoric, you can see the U.S. has been trying to pivot to the Pacific as far back as Obama and perhaps even earlier. In this geopolitical narrative, the U.S. is still a key member of NATO but Europe steps up and keeps Russia in check. The Ukrainian war demonstrates that the Russian military is no longer the major threat to Europe it was several decades ago.
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