Tariffs on Canada delayed for 30 days after talk between Trudeau and Trump. Trump folds.

mandrill

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I wouldn’t want to shit in a stall next to this guy
I think he has special facilities at the White House, complete with a shower room to clean up after taking his diaper off.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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You're just making arguments to dismiss what we all see on the ground. We also don't need you to explain the capital requirements of telecom.

The fact that a large market with big capital requirements like the U.S. has a strong foreign-owned competitor demonstrates an open market for foreign investment. The fact that a small market like Canada does not have foreign investment is prima facie evidence that the U.S. telecom market is more open.



I didn't make an argument that the U.S. has a big foreign competitor organically. I basically said Canada's big three telecoms were not organically established without the help of a closed market.

On the matter of a foreign competitor buying a business or assets, it is an effective way to enter a market. It doesn't preclude organic growth. T-Mobile had 7 million subscribers when Deutsche Bank acquired it. Today T-Mobile has 130 million subscribers.



This is a curious case of whataboutism. The U.S. has direct foreign investment in our telecom sector. Canada does not. Of course, telecom mergers and expansions are regulated in the U.S. like they are everywhere.
What do you mean they did not develop organically?
They are Canadian companies, started by Canadians and established in Canada.
Foreign investment isn't up to Canada. It is up to the investors to evaluate if they want to invest.
However it is true that there are capex and regulatory requirements in both the US and Canada.
Essentially nothing is drastically different in Canada than it is in the US.
Nobody is entitled to the Canadian market.
Canada for its part does not prevent anyone from investing in Canada or buying companies here.
Tim Hortons as an example was bought by Burger King an American corporation.
So I am not making up anything.
You are trying to hold Canada responsible for something Canada isn't responsible for.
Sounds like mental gymnastics to me frankly.
 

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BREAKING: RFK Jr. has just been APPROVED by the Senate Finance Committee as the next Secretary of Health and Human Services, advancing his nomination to a full Senate vote. Senator Bill Cassidy (R - Louisiana) was the key flip that helped Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination for Secretary of Health and Human Services move forward in the Senate Finance Committee. The vote was 14-13, with Cassidy casting the decisive vote in favor.
 

JohnLarue

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There was a whole lot more going on in Germany. To make your point, it's important to ignore all these preceding events.

Weak emerging Democracy
Hyperinflation
Great Depression
Massive Unemployment

Germany was buffeted by all of this in about ten years.
two other issues
  1. National pride had been hammered
  2. The Treaty of Versailles was very punitive
One can easily argue both were well deserved for the war mongers, however it was the population that got the beating and the bills,
that bred discontent for sure

No doubt the French wanted big $ , their country was the main battlefield and was destroyed, so they were justified in demanding big $ to clean up the mess
 

mandrill

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BREAKING: RFK Jr. has just been APPROVED by the Senate Finance Committee as the next Secretary of Health and Human Services, advancing his nomination to a full Senate vote. Senator Bill Cassidy (R - Louisiana) was the key flip that helped Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination for Secretary of Health and Human Services move forward in the Senate Finance Committee. The vote was 14-13, with Cassidy casting the decisive vote in favor.
I hope Cassidy got a nice pay-off for the vote.

Medical Twitter is burning his ass down.
 
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mandrill

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Kevin O’Leary drops INTERVIEW OF LIFETIME

Making the case for Canada joining an ‘economic union’ with the U.S., he breaks it down like never before. This 51st state argument is FIRE.

If this doesn’t convince you, nothing will. Millions are going to watch this INTERVIEW


So Marc Nixon is in favour of Canada agreeing to be a vassal state enslaved by the US? And he's a Canadian?!?!?!?!
 
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DesRicardo

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the tariffs may /may not work
they are likely the stick used to
  1. get attention (he does have an ego)
  2. Get the border secured
  3. wake up the trade partners - we were not ready for a trade war
  4. to be determined- he is unpredictable
His taxation / regulation polices are likely to be far more effective at stealing jobs over the long haul

Here are some back of the envelope # ( nit picking at a value is really a waste of time- its a relative comparison )
Canada (we shall put it first)USA
Total tax burden on workforce (income tax, sales tax, property tax)46.1%24.7%
% of workforce in Govt20.1%13.3%
GDP per capita (USD)53 K81 K
Effective Corporate tax rate15%21%
payroll taxessimilarsimilar
Public debt per capita Federal & Provincial60K (Ontario)104,000 K

He wants to lower the corporate tax rate (say to 10%), shrink the size of govt (Elon Musk) & eliminate regulation
capital, companies, production and many very bright people will flow from Canada to the USA

while Trudeau / Carney plan to shift the carbon tax onto companies and keep expanding the government/ add new regulations

Like or hate Trump , he is going to change the rules of the competitive game
you may not like musk or be appalled at his methods, however I believe he will shrink their govt

Canadians do not want to become the 51 first state , that is not an option.
so we will need to compete to keep jobs, capital, companies and bright people north of the border

We will lose that game with Trudeau / Carney
We simply can not compete when 1 in 5 members of the work force are employed by govt, the govts grabbing 46% of our earnings and more burdens placed on our companies
the % workforce in govt and tax grab on citizens are unsustainable (insane actually) to begin with and absolutely impossible to be competitive with
First off, You agree Trump folded and this was all unnecessary, right???
 

K Douglas

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Gotta love that 'humbled' look. Sad that people are trying to give Justan Asshole credit for this. Ahhh the Kool Aid is strong.
These leftists can't see the forest for the trees. Trump said jump and Trudeau the bitch said how high.
 
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K Douglas

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First off, You agree Trump folded and this was all unnecessary, right???
No I don't agree with that. Not at all. Its amazing how you can't see the bigger picture here.
 
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JohnLarue

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I was stating no opinion on either trump or Trudeau. There was no attempt at comparison either.

Reread my post you quoted and you will see that I was talking about common traits of tDSers, i.e., those afflicted with trump Devotee Syndrome. Not about trump or Trudeau.
hmm
you were talking about those afflicted with trump Devotee Syndrome.
but not about Trump, hmm

would you not agree Trumps biggest fan is Trump ? most narcissists are their own biggest fan
would you not agree that Trump has trump Devotee Syndrome?
So he is a tDSers, A tDSer to the max.

Now doubt Trudeau also has tDSers Trudeau Devotee Syndrome
Similar personality disorders Narcissist, deceitful , nasty, vindictive *(ask a female cabinet member-oh wait you cant) . Our weirdo also has a costume and make up fetish

If you are going to conduct a clinical psychology study, you can not bias your work by excluding a subject simply because you voted for him.

Or you have never permitted yourself to take a real objective view of Mr. Dress up ?
He has been on full display for 9 long years
 
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K Douglas

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There is no bigger picture. He agreed to every term we said we would do two months late.

He folded.
You're walking blind without a cane mate.
 
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