Summer Transfers so far.
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I will agree with you that Fat Frank is one of the most overrated players on the planet. He is so one dimensional and he shouldnt even be near the National team.
I used to love watching Serie A, but once I got onto the EPL it was just far more soothing on the eye to watch. I still enjoy certain Serie A fixtures, but lets suppose Everton vs Boro is on and Messina vs Sampdoria, I'm watching that Everton match in an instant!
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ROME, June 18 (Reuters) - AC Milan's number one target in the closed-season transfer market is Barcelona striker Samuel Eto'o, the Serie A club's vice-president said on Monday.
'Our primary objective for next season is Eto'o, and if the economic conditions are right we will get him, otherwise we'll stick with the team that won the Champions League plus Ronaldo,' Adriano Galliani was quoted as saying on Milan's website.
Asked for his opinion on comments made last week by Milan president Silvio Berlusconi, who said he would like to see Andriy Shevchenko return from Chelsea, Galliani replied: 'The president and I have always been in agreement over the last 30 years.
'We are in constant contact. Who knows? Anything can happen'.
I used to love watching Serie A, but once I got onto the EPL it was just far more soothing on the eye to watch. I still enjoy certain Serie A fixtures, but lets suppose Everton vs Boro is on and Messina vs Sampdoria, I'm watching that Everton match in an instant!
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ROME, June 18 (Reuters) - AC Milan's number one target in the closed-season transfer market is Barcelona striker Samuel Eto'o, the Serie A club's vice-president said on Monday.
'Our primary objective for next season is Eto'o, and if the economic conditions are right we will get him, otherwise we'll stick with the team that won the Champions League plus Ronaldo,' Adriano Galliani was quoted as saying on Milan's website.
Asked for his opinion on comments made last week by Milan president Silvio Berlusconi, who said he would like to see Andriy Shevchenko return from Chelsea, Galliani replied: 'The president and I have always been in agreement over the last 30 years.
'We are in constant contact. Who knows? Anything can happen'.
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I cannot belive Thierry Henry has left Arsenal, I honestly thought he was a gunner for life...as an Arsenal fan this blows obviously because its another season of finishing 4th. And they'll probably slide. I guess the only positive is that they got 24 million euros for a 30 year old player. This is alright if they turn around and spend it, but they dont seem to purchase bonafide superstars in their prime, they always develop players. If they could somehow get Tevez, then I'd be pleased...
won't happen, 4th place is up for grabs now and your most hated London rivals Tottenham are the likely recipient of that CL spot. Everton may challenge, but Moyes has to some how show he can have successful back to back campaigns.the_big_E said:
Sorry but your Gunners are done, since Dein left, that has been the downfall. Wenger may soon leave, although i think he may stay for another season. Cesc Fabregas is now the most likely target for big clubs such as Real Madrid and Barcelona, don't be suprised if he caves in because he said Henry was vital to the squad. Even Patrick Vieira warned the Arsenal board, show Henry you want him, if not you are losing another great player. Had Arsenal kept Vieira with Fabregas in the midfield, you could realistically see a team challenging for the title.
Tevez also would prefer to play in Italy, he's not so keen on the EPL at this time. Also i believe that 24 million will not be a transfer kitty as the Gunners are still paying off the new stadium transfer.
It is tough times for being a Gunner, Rosicky is also nervous about whats happening, Lehman is also a little uncertain. That is 3 key Arsenal players gone in 3 seasons, Vieira, Cole and now Henry. Something needs to be done.
Henry has confirmed the move.
Arsenal is not the same team it was a few years ago when they went undefeated. They still have the style but still will lose games to lesser teams. When Henry is healthy he is hands down one of the best strikers in the game today. And if anyone said he was the best, I wouldn't argue against him.
If he clicks with Eto, Messi and the rest, Barca will run wild next year.
Arsenal is not the same team it was a few years ago when they went undefeated. They still have the style but still will lose games to lesser teams. When Henry is healthy he is hands down one of the best strikers in the game today. And if anyone said he was the best, I wouldn't argue against him.
If he clicks with Eto, Messi and the rest, Barca will run wild next year.
I wouldnt say they're done, and they can still get 4th...I mean Henry missed most of last season.
Ashley Cole was not a key player, he's a whiny little twat, and a left back is never going to make a big impact.
Vieira and Pires are the ones that hurt....also if Henry only went for 16mil, and Darren Bent is valued at 18mil, am I missing something with this picture??
Ashley Cole was not a key player, he's a whiny little twat, and a left back is never going to make a big impact.
Vieira and Pires are the ones that hurt....also if Henry only went for 16mil, and Darren Bent is valued at 18mil, am I missing something with this picture??
a left back is never going to make an impact? your joking? Ashley Cole is the only left back that can give Cristiano Ronaldo a hard time. Plus Ashley Cole has amazing pace on the flank, his ability to push up quickly and defend just as quickly was the reason why Arsenal has been consistant.the_big_E said:
But whatever, its the past. realistically now, arsenal can aim for UEFA, that's about it, CL, forget about it, Tottenham have been hot on their heals the past 2 seasons and are a better road team than Arsenal. Now once Wenger leaves, you can give up and just hope to stay above the top 10
They will not fall that far from grace, they still have class players...they will definitely be out of the running for the premiership though, and probably wont go too deep into CL
However, the team has upside if anything...but I'd be sitting here lying if I didn't say it will be very difficult without Henry.
However, the team has upside if anything...but I'd be sitting here lying if I didn't say it will be very difficult without Henry.
Let's not throw Arsenal to relegation yet. They played many games without Henry this year and played very well. No one will replace Henry but they still have a pretty good team. I think another problem Arsenal may have is a ripple effect of Henry leaving. Is Winger gone? And Cesc says he'll leave if Wenger leaves. It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few months.
never said they would fall from grace, but i'm being realistic when i say that the Gunner's chances for the title have continued to slip each year. They still have one MVP which is Wenger but once he does decide to leave.....it would be hard pressed not to say Arsenal would struggle to find a spot in Europe. And you say class players....outside of Fabregas and Gilberto, who on their team can actually be called World Class?the_big_E said:
Again, you'd have to hope Wenger doesn't leave just yet.
World class? Let's see; Ljunberg, captain of Sweden, Hleb captain of Belarus, Rosicky, captin of the Czech Republic. Toure one of the best central defenders in the world. Gallas a stalwart on the French team and van Persie a stalwart on the Dutch team. Also, Arsenal had the the highest representation of any club team at the last World Cup. In addition we have a lot of exciting youngsters that are getting better every year. If we finished 4th the last two years I can't see us dropping further.SneakyLB said:
Over the last 18 months Henry has not had a significant influence on the team due to injury and relatively poor form. As well too many Arsenal players were intimidated by him (see Reyes) and could not perform up to expectation. Henry leaving is going to open the door for the youngsters. That said we will miss him, he is an icon. Life goes on, our style will change and the transfer window is open for another 2 months. Henry left because Arsene wanted him to go, he would still be at Arsenal if it was best for the team.
Trust Arsene, He "Knows". He is very competitive and hates to lose. As for the fear mongering, he isn't going anywhere, he has a lot of young players that he wants to develop, he will be around to finish the project. He always waits for the last minute to re-sign.
Okay, got that off my chest, carry-on.
Barca getting Henry was a bad move, they already have a younger faster version of the Frenchman in Eto'o. Since both can't be on the pitch at the same time one of them will be warming the bench.
I hope Real are stupid enough to (a) fire Capello and (b) pay 100 million Euros to Milan for Kaka. Berndt Schuster is a poor replacement for Capello and Kaka won't be as effective without Pirlo. If anyone still doubts Pirlo's pedigree, just ask Sheva if he misses him.
Arsenal is supposedly negotiating with Roma to acquire Alberto Aquilani. I hope this is just a rumour, Aquilani is one player I don not want to see leave Serie A. He's a blue chip prospect who'll develop into an exceptional playmaker, he wouldn't prosper in the tactically challenged Premiership.
I hope Real are stupid enough to (a) fire Capello and (b) pay 100 million Euros to Milan for Kaka. Berndt Schuster is a poor replacement for Capello and Kaka won't be as effective without Pirlo. If anyone still doubts Pirlo's pedigree, just ask Sheva if he misses him.
Arsenal is supposedly negotiating with Roma to acquire Alberto Aquilani. I hope this is just a rumour, Aquilani is one player I don not want to see leave Serie A. He's a blue chip prospect who'll develop into an exceptional playmaker, he wouldn't prosper in the tactically challenged Premiership.
Agreed. Capello must stay. Diego of Werder Bremen would be just as if not more effective than Kaka and would be a lot cheaper.Von Wigglestaff said:
You also make a good point about Pirlo making Kaka fly. Hmm, is Kaka as effective with Brazil as with Milan? No.
Apparently Barcelona have also signed Yaya Toure, Kolo Toure's younger brother from Monaco. From what I've seen he looks to be a solid player, apparently Arsenal bid for him last summer but Olympiakos accepted a lower bid from Monaco...
Bayern Munich have signed Miroslav Klose...by my count that's Santa Cruz, Makaay, Podolski, Toni and now Klose...for a team not in CL.
Bayern Munich have signed Miroslav Klose...by my count that's Santa Cruz, Makaay, Podolski, Toni and now Klose...for a team not in CL.
You call Rosicky and Hleb world class? Ljungberg has passed his prime and it wasn't long ago he actually was on the verge of leaving the club, the only thing he's got going for him now is being a Calvin Klein underwear model. Also Hleb was a bad buy, he was no where close what he was.Big Michael said:
You are not a very realistic Arsenal fan. Losing a long time Gunner, the man who has been a central figure to the Arsenal attack for many years, for crying out loud he was Wenger's favorite and he has stayed committed to the club on many occasions. You let Patrick Vieira go and he wins a Scudetto with Inter Milan, you let Ashley Cole go and he plays for a city rival, now you let your all time leading scorer go and you expect to be better? Give me a break, go read the comments Fabregas has made saying that he would be devastated if Henry leaves.
for you to say Henry left because Wenger wanted him to go means you are in denial. Patrick Vieira clearly said, "Be serious". If Ashley Cole, Patrick Vieira and Henry were all on the same team right now, do not think for one moment that is a Championship calibre team. Mix in with Toure, Gilberto, and Fabregas you have something going. Wenger took Henry under his wing since Monaco, it is when Dein left that really called for a change of guard.
Wenger has never bailed out of his contract and i believe he will still continue to do so, but you have no backing from the board, buying players you want as a manager is extremely difficult. As an Aston Villa fan i've had my frustrations with Doug Ellis, we've let a lot of quality players we could of brought in slip, so for Wenger he is faced with a tough task of keeping a competitive team as well as keeping the board happy. Arsenal are still in debt from the Wembley stadium change and don't expect them to go nuts buying players. Arsenal will regret letting another legend go, once you let Fabregas and Wenger leave, you are done.
I don't see how its a bad move when you have 2 top quality strikers? How is it bad to continue to bring in the best players in the world? Henry is a superior player in dead ball situations, his dribbling is also better than Eto'o. Both have world class finishing but Eto'os pace is obviously much better. When you have two players like this how can you not be fear this team's attack? Of course both can be on the same pitch, its how you utilize them, Henry can play just slight outside of the box while Eto'o can push up further.Von Wigglestaff said:
Both Pirlo and Kaka are AC Milan, but i think Shevchenko benefitted more with Kaka as it is apparent with Chelsea.
Quite a lot to digest, I will take a few small chunks. Rosicky, definately world class, a lot of injuries and not fully settled into premiership. If you don't believe he is world class, you haven't seen him play enough. Hleb, does alot of great things on the pitch, didn't have a great year, needs to finish his chances, jury still out. Due to injuries and form, Henry has not played well for 18 months, and he 30 this year, I believe he still has 3 or 4 good years left, but the question was he going to deliver those at Arsenal? Wenger saw an opportunity to get some cash and he typically sells players while they still have something in their tank. Don't get me wrong, Henry is my favourite player (post Bergkamp), all my replica jerseys have his name on them, but I don't think his departure is all that bad, time will tell. Patrik Viera, same thing, he is done, getting lotsa injuries his form is no where near it was 4 years ago. As well, did Inter have any true competition in Italy? AC Milan had the deduction and Juve, as well, did Viera win it all by himself? give me a break.SneakyLB said:
What you seem to forget is that Fabregas took Patrick's spot. If Viera stays, Fabregas doen't emerge. Ashley Cole, Chelsea can have him, the greedy, lying c**t. Debt from "Emirates" is manageable, Arsenal has the highest game day revenue in the EPL, developing Highbury location, and our debt is less than half of Manchester United's. Arsenal and Wenger are very conservative as well they will buy but only the right player at the right price. Wenger always has 40Mil to spend if he wants, he chooses not to. He has never requested a player and been turned down by the Board.
Don't believe the fear mongering in the British press. No one is irreplaceable. Behind Fabregas we have Diaby, Denilson, and Merida to play the creative central mid-field position. Hell we can even move Rosicky or Hleb off the wing and back to their original central mid-field position.
I think you are another Arsenal fan in denial that losing Henry is not a big thing. Again, when wast the last time Arsenal has done anything significant? Oh that's right it was the CL when who else lead that team?Big Michael said:
Also i have watched Tomas Rosicky when he was Dortmund have you? He was a far better player back then then he is now. Quality finishers and forwards are hard to come by, and Arsenal are now missing that. So what if Henry had a bad 18 months, for pete sakes are you going to look back at what he did those 18 months or what he has done in his career as an Arsenal player.
YOu aren't the first person to point out his age.....at 30 getting out of the EPL is no problem, but at 30 getting into the EPL pace is another thing, Ballack and Shevchenko have felt the pain but at 30 you can still do a lot of damage, if you are a Michael Owen type player at 30 then you are in trouble, because the speed isn't there, but Henry's finishing and touch is world class.
Lets be frank here, who would you rather have? Robert Pires or Hleb? All these players coming in from the Bundesliga have struggled to make an impact on the EPL stage, the pace of play is not as significant.
How do you know about Wenger's transfer kitty? His problem with the board is that he doesn't get enough financial backing and the only person who pushed to help get Wenger the players he wants was David Dein. Losing David Dein is going to be Arsenal's downfall. I think Arsenal fans need to be realistic, you lost a great player and a very influencial player at that. If you think you can cope in the EPL without Henry, good luck. If you can cope without Henry and Wenger, then you need your brain check. Right now, Wenger and Fabregas are the 2 key personnel that can save this club.
