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FunInToronto2023

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@FunInToronto2023, a sincere thank you for raising this. Mostly out of curiosity, I signed up for SA a few days ago after coming across this thread, and very unexpectedly, have had some wonderful interactions since, including my first introductory meetup with an absolute sweetheart. A few more are in the scheduling stage. I think it's also helping my cause, to ignore (most of) the many hot (all kinds of hot) under-25s ;)
IKR it’s great and also addictive! Hope it works out for you 😃😃😃 I’ve found it more difficult to stop than the hobby with SPs, there’s so many really innocent, sweet girls that need a helping hand and are into basically dating a slightly older guy for some funds and hooking up.
 

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There are other things why you should avoid SBs

1. Almost all SBs have mental issues, struggling in life. Their mood is up/down. You think they are ok, but they can be totally different person when you meet them. You may have to deal with their personal issues over the time even they agreed on no drama.

2. They may not be same as they talk or they seem. Poor sex is high possibility. They might look like sexy, horny and slut but they can be cold fish on the bed.

3. So many SBs are playing game and try to get money without intimacy. They ask high allowance, even you accept it, they can share their phone with you but they are still not willing to have sex with you. They will ask money upfront or give some excuses with many stories but they will try to keep you in the loop to get money.

4. If you host SB in the hotel, they might see your real name on TV screen in the room. Your privacy is under risk.

Why you should stick with SPs:

1. No drama
2. No game
3. No wasting time.
4. No risk for your own privacy.
5. You are able to choose based on reviews and services.
6. Less cost.
7. You are sure what you will get when you meet them.
It sounds like you are not very experienced.
 

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Sound like those are coming from experience that I am sharing with you guys
So you're experienced in bad experiences. ;)

I can't say that I haven't had some bad experiences as well, but there's been lots of good ones too.

I get the impression that you're doing a lot of generalizing. Different people are looking for different things.
 
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FunInToronto2023

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There are other things why you should avoid SBs

1. Almost all SBs have mental issues, struggling in life. Their mood is up/down. You think they are ok, but they can be totally different person when you meet them. You may have to deal with their personal issues over the time even they agreed on no drama.

2. They may not be same as they talk or they seem. Poor sex is high possibility. They might look like sexy, horny and slut but they can be cold fish on the bed.

3. So many SBs are playing game and try to get money without intimacy. They ask high allowance, even you accept it, they can share their phone with you but they are still not willing to have sex with you. They will ask money upfront or give some excuses with many stories but they will try to keep you in the loop to get money.

4. If you host SB in the hotel, they might see your real name on TV screen in the room. Your privacy is under risk.

Why you should stick with SPs:

1. No drama
2. No game
3. No wasting time.
4. No risk for your own privacy.
5. You are able to choose based on reviews and services.
6. Less cost.
7. You are sure what you will get when you meet them.
Thank you for sharing your experience in the SB world and the SP world with all of us. I have my own mental issues in life, dealing with addictions (sex and I'm probably a self-diagnosed high functioning alcoholic). In my experience I've come across the odd SB and SP with easy to spot mental issues. Couple of experiences of sex that was underwhelming but found it a lot more exciting than underwhelming sex with a SP, which there is maybe even a higher chance of having unless a girl is really well reviewed. Privacy under risk - most SB's are as worried about a psycho guy knowing their true identity so through conversation and being on the same level as them, you carefully end up divulging who you are. For me that's been part of my experience and for the girl, keeping in mind she's not a SP, it makes her feel safe. Just because we have money to spend on someone who isn't a SP, think of it as basically dating and it's a part of being kind and upfront. I totally get maybe having a pseudonym when conversing at first but in the real world when we date, we would say our real name. And no guy is more special, no matter how much he thinks he is, than the girl and I'm sure there are super weird guys out there that would totally stalk a girl and feel they're better than them because they're providing funds or an allowance. I've been with many SBs and there has been no drama, no games, no time wasting and would say that if I can overnight for 200-300 or have them come to my hotel for 4 hours then the cost experience is so much more like a regular date (yes get room service and buy wine and all that but I'd be doing it regardless). For your last point, even though you can see a well reviewed SP on here (as most of us have), you never truly are sure what you will get when you meet them. I've had sparks fly with SPs and SBs because we're a fit - and also had sparks fail to fly with both because for a variety of reasons we may not be a fit.
 
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I have met the most compliant submissive women on sa. The only issue is alot are super hot messes. Mental health issues. As stated previously. Be forewarned.
 

FunInToronto2023

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I have met the most compliant submissive women on sa. The only issue is alot are super hot messes. Mental health issues. As stated previously. Be forewarned.
Absolutely have had that in the SB world and also on the SP side as well. And on several occasions over the years. So many times hanging out and you have some fun but at the same time you think, "yeah this might not be the best situation I can't wait to either finish or get out." On both sides this has happened to me when they've gone somewhere and unknowingly have party favours.
 
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Leimonis

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I’m curious how much of extra expenses on top of ppm do people tolerate?
I must admit that when I’m asked to Uber a new potential and her Uber costs are $50 each way I’m getting annoyed as fuck
 

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Why not offer to drive her back and forth? Even if you have to drive an hour each way you won't use 100 bucks in fuel...
I don't like making my first impression in a car. I live literally 1 minute from a subway stop. I tell them that if they can make their way here, I'll drive them home.
 

Muchadoaboutnothing

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I have met the most compliant submissive women on sa. The only issue is alot are super hot messes. Mental health issues. As stated previously. Be forewarned.
I mean , what comes first ? SA or the mental health issues ? Or do they coincide for any reason but that one is making a trade off they maybe weren’t ready to ? Aren’t mature enough? Are seeing what the pros and cons of what ones wants vs needs are ? If they need help and need the money to get help does this keep them in that cycle ?
do they have vices ? Do they think of them as such ? This can be telling. It’s a cycle.
maybe you can be in a mature position to suggest lightly how to seek the resources they need outside of what you’re offering.
 

Muchadoaboutnothing

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I don't like making my first impression in a car. I live literally 1 minute from a subway stop. I tell them that if they can make their way here, I'll drive them home.
It’s about trying to adhere to classic dating outlines. She’ll think better of you as well. Or at least offer to pay her cash when she Ubers to you. It’s a better first impression. Otherwise you seem lazy and unwilling. Or are you making it clear you’re providing dinner and cash on that meeting ?
 

Muchadoaboutnothing

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Absolutely have had that in the SB world and also on the SP side as well. And on several occasions over the years. So many times hanging out and you have some fun but at the same time you think, "yeah this might not be the best situation I can't wait to either finish or get out." On both sides this has happened to me when they've gone somewhere and unknowingly have party favours.
The party people are the worst. I almost want to say you can just ask them what music they listen to and this can be your filter. Or if you feel like the playlist they put on is just the same song on repeat they are very high and don’t know it’s the same song.
 

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It’s about trying to adhere to classic dating outlines. She’ll think better of you as well. Or at least offer to pay her cash when she Ubers to you. It’s a better first impression. Otherwise you seem lazy and unwilling. Or are you making it clear you’re providing dinner and cash on that meeting ?
Yeah. I know it's not perfect but sometimes it has to do with where they live. If they're within a 15-20 minute drive it's OK. But if I've got to drive out to Mississauga and back during rush hour, no thanks. But hopping on the subway is such an easy thing. There's also a GO Bus stop right there as well. I've had girls come in from Oshawa and even Bowmanville that way.

I let them know that drinks and dinner are on me. I also tell them that if it's just a meet and greet I don't give any cash. However, if we consummate the arrangement that same date, then I'll pay the agreed upon amount.

The easiest is if they agree to meet me at my place. I have drinks, can cook, set a nice mood etc. and we have privacy to get to know each other. I totally understand if they're not comfortable but surprisingly, I'd say 40-50% of the girls agree to a 1st date at my place. And those almost always end out with sex.
 

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The easiest is if they agree to meet me at my place. I have drinks, can cook, set a nice mood etc. and we have privacy to get to know each other. I totally understand if they're not comfortable but surprisingly, I'd say 40-50% of the girls agree to a 1st date at my place. And those almost always end out with sex.
What if she comes to your place and her ass and belly is twice bigger than the picture? It’s bad enough at the restaurant, but having it at your own place is gonna suck even worse.
 

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How do you politely reject the SB at the cafe /restaurant when she looks ugly and nothing like her photos and you know you cannot not get a hard on even though she is showing eagerness and positive attitude?
 

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How do you politely reject the SB at the cafe /restaurant when she looks ugly and nothing like her photos and you know you cannot not get a hard on even though she is showing eagerness and positive attitude?
Thank you very much for your company. It was great. I’m going to have to think about it. I’ll be in touch.
 
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