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tylerd

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I wish I went to terb first on this! As usual it's a wealth of knowledge.

I've tried seeking the last month. For almost 50 I'm fit but I'm hair challenged!

Maybe my expectations are bad or I'm picking the wrong girls or I'm very rusty with "dating" but I am disappointed. The hunt can be fun. The conversation has been good, sex is easy to get but I haven't had even decent sex yet, even a good kisser. It's one and out the door. The only reason I haven't quit is I have time left on subscription but not renewing.

For now my vote is with SP's.
 

fiesta519

Talent Scout
Aug 5, 2010
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Currently on seeking, have had a good amount of matches but the expectations from the women are unrealistic. It's better value for me to stick with SPs where I have control of choosing what experience I want.
 

fiesta519

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Aug 5, 2010
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Thanks for sharing that, honestly, I would steer well clear of Secret Benefits (if LeoList is promoting it, you know something is up). They charge you credits for everything - even if a girl shares her pics, you have to pay credits to see them.
But obviously, your success speaks for itself. Yes, 300-600 is probably my average too. Do the girls actually use terms like "special service" now? I figured that was just an Asian escort thing?
Secret Benefits is a scam site. Fake profiles to get you to sign up and use your free credits. Plus you have to pay for everything. Once you purchase your first set of credits you quickly realize that most the profiles are fake. I told them this while deleting my account and they credited me
 
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escortsxxx

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hahaha love this.

And yet removed from our primeval cousins, so many modern cavemen still the average woman as average, while refusing to look in the mirror - they themselves refusing to wax their ugly, hairy backs, do situps to remove their Miller Genuine Draft pack, properly wash their balls, underarms and asses nor take care of their teeth and breath. Then partake to this review board and declare "No DFK, no chemistry, brief CBJ only, only one shot in an hour and she wanted out of there. Do not recommend."

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Yet I hear young ladies claim there bjs are famously good. But during the act how often does a man say "its good, but among the worst I have had. Cold McDonald's for sure?
With civilians men lie even more both to be polite and hope that the future will be better.
 

Leimonis

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Feb 28, 2020
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Currently on seeking, have had a good amount of matches but the expectations from the women are unrealistic. It's better value for me to stick with SPs where I have control of choosing what experience I want.
Yeah when I hear $1000 per date I also feel like that. Although it would probably be at least three hours so even that per hour may not be that bad.
 
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escortsxxx

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Yeah when I hear $1000 per date I also feel like that. Although it would probably be at least three hours so even that per hour may not be that bad.
its ofen free if you ignote cost of food etc. Girls never pay for their food so if they have a sliw day... bad value sex but bettet value sometimes for dinner companion. you can always slit the day rev up with sugar then terb it .
 

fiesta519

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Aug 5, 2010
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its ofen free if you ignote cost of food etc. Girls never pay for their food so if they have a sliw day... bad value sex but bettet value sometimes for dinner companion. you can always slit the day rev up with sugar then terb it .
Their expectation is to pay for the date (dinner and anything else) plus an allowance. Or some that go straight to sex. Overall it seems like better value but I'd rather pay 200hh weekly for an sp who has the services that I want
 

escortsxxx

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Their expectation is to pay for the date (dinner and anything else) plus an allowance. Or some that go straight to sex. Overall it seems like better value but I'd rather pay 200hh weekly for an sp who has the services that I want
its random ..no reviews
 

rocco_s

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What's the going rate for sbs. I was getting some ddg girls for 400 to 700 for overnights in the past. Seems alot want more now close to 1k. I saw one awhile back for 500 for the night. Dinner and left middle of the next day. What's the range you guys are seeing nowadays.
 

Leimonis

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What's the going rate for sbs. I was getting some ddg girls for 400 to 700 for overnights in the past. Seems alot want more now close to 1k. I saw one awhile back for 500 for the night. Dinner and left middle of the next day. What's the range you guys are seeing nowadays.
Not sure about overnights but 500 for even 3 hrs with ddg is a thing of the past. 700-1000 seems to have become the normal ask currently. I don’t know where they get these numbers from and who’s paying that, especially consistently. A cute gnd for 500 is a good deal today and hard to find.
American daddies on Reddit have always been suggesting that a quarter of monthly rent should equal your ppm. Toronto has now easily surpassed that mark even as the rent increased as well.
 

Leimonis

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I was getting mostly 400-550
I actually also did get one who was okay with 400 but she was scratching like a cat and it annoyed me and I stopped seeing her
 
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shack

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Oct 2, 2001
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I'm supposed to meet one in a few days. We agreed on $350 but then she said, "I need $400 because the pill costs $50." LOL
 
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Experienced

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Profiles and expectation have been changed in SA compared to 2-3 years back(pandemic time).
Girls in SA are mostly expecting dating guy with some allowance or someone who can provide luxury life. There are also pros who are looking for clients. But there is no ddg girl anymore. If you search online girls in Toronto area, you will always see same profiles online, there are about max 100-150 girls consistently online, others seem gave up.
SA is dead, not worth it. Wasting time and money.
 

FunInToronto2023

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What's the going rate for sbs. I was getting some ddg girls for 400 to 700 for overnights in the past. Seems alot want more now close to 1k. I saw one awhile back for 500 for the night. Dinner and left middle of the next day. What's the range you guys are seeing nowadays.
It totally depends and I just recently fell off the wagon. Still have some girls that will overnight for 200-300 but that’s just me. I imagine most, if you’re totally into each other, would do 500 especially if you order room service and drinks
 

Leimonis

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It totally depends and I just recently fell off the wagon. Still have some girls that will overnight for 200-300 but that’s just me. I imagine most, if you’re totally into each other, would do 500 especially if you order room service and drinks
I am curious if people feel that the numbers generally correlate with things such as SB's racial background.

I am aware from reddit that in US women of colour complain non stop that they are over represented and their chances are slim, which inevitably affects their requested honorarium. (DDG would be an obvious exception, of course)
 
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