Sugar Dating Experience

[FunInToronto2023]

In the primeval era, scarce were the moments when the caveman stumbled upon a rare gem. The young man, in his primal wisdom, hailed mediocrity as if it were the pinnacle of achievement—a celebration of the utterly ordinary. For in a world where finding a decent can of beans was an accomplishment, and where politeness often masked a lack of alternatives, the bar for praise was set low, dancing in tandem with the flickering firelight of limited choices. Now you pay the price.

hahaha love this.

And yet removed from our primeval cousins, so many modern cavemen still the average woman as average, while refusing to look in the mirror - they themselves refusing to wax their ugly, hairy backs, do situps to remove their Miller Genuine Draft pack, properly wash their balls, underarms and asses nor take care of their teeth and breath. Then partake to this review board and declare "No DFK, no chemistry, brief CBJ only, only one shot in an hour and she wanted out of there. Do not recommend."

 

[FunInToronto2023]

Sir, this is an escort review board, if we did "Actual Dating" we wouldn't be here


Yes, I've traded links with some guys and they've talked to some of these girls, and they say there are guys who basically expect them to be LeoList hookers, like asking if they can come in their ass in the first conversation

That's what you're competing with, like if you actually talk to them like a girl from a bar or the gym, you're probably going to end up paying less. Mind you, yes, if some girl is asking for $1000 first time, definitely tell them, thanks and good luck

So true Robl - really interesting though it seems his experiences are really no different than just going out, meeting a cute girl and asking to go on a date and pay for stuff, which can eventually lead to sex either on the first date or maybe second or third. I swear the old school way when I was growing up was so much better than becoming a married, sex-addicted guy in his late 40s.

I had one girl ask for $1,000 and second highest request was $500 for a meet. I can afford that but would get caught in a hearbeat so never pulled the trigger on either. Also, some girls are just adamant about shopping and getting their ever-elusive Gucci bags or whatever. If I was single and had a huge net worth I wouldn't care but at the same time it would be a random, spontaneous gift with a vivacious, normal girl who doesn't expect stuff like that. Expectations of luxury are an absolute red flag.

For those only wanting to do monthly allowance, I had one girl (white/30/barely average looking) ask for $3,000/mo (not sure how many times that would be to meet) and said that was how much her last daddy gave her. Likely not but at the same time, there are a lot of older, ugly, wealthy guys who wouldn't be able to touch someone who's not an SP without that type of arrangement so not out of the realm of possibility.

 

[FunInToronto2023]

That's good, yes that's like my experience pre-pandemic, usually going for dinner or drinks at a decent place (not the Keg, but maybe Milestones or State and Main), sometimes we'd get dessert for takeout, and then some fun at my place afterwards. Make them feel like it's a date out but be sensible with your money. Some girls now are definitely up for the straight PPM, you cover their Uber (or they drive) and it's a straigfh hook-up.

That's excellent. It's literally like dating, treating them nicely and then hooking up. Definite win/win for everyone because they're into you enough to also enjoy smashing and know that you're a decent person too.

 

[FunInToronto2023]

I'd think the advantage of hinge would be access to not yet converted SBs because seeking has a fairly small number of potentials
I admit I have zero experience with civilian apps
has anyone been able to make it work??

I'm married and I started on Tinder years ago, was almost caught three times it was the most stupid I've ever been in my life especially given status in the business community and all that.

I went on so many dates and it was equal parts excitement/home boredom/nihilism/hedonism with an overarching desire to actually get caught cheating from having such a lack of intimacy at home.

 

[FunInToronto2023]

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Telegram people near me 2023 11 12 8:30pm.
I don't bother contacting people.

That one in particular is likely a scam but I might download this to try it out for fun

 

[FunInToronto2023]

Reviews?

Sugar daddy's have totally changed over the last couple of years. In the middle class sugar daddy seems to disappear.

1 time girls didn't want to expose themselves too constant clients And it was a sort of a hybrid between gf with a touch of sp.

Now It's mostly variations on a sps.. Primarily looking for men who will overpay or Want platonic.
But I imagine it has all variations As it changes by the person Despite the schools for sugar babies on line..

No it's not like that at all it's very much YMMV for sugar dating. I saw a really cute girl going to university in the spring and all I did was pick her up, we went somewhere kind of discreet. We talked for a bit, went for DFK for like a half hour with other stuff going on and then I drove her back. She took too long getting ready for the date so I didn't have time to take her to dinner. Blonde/19. Pink puffy nipples. Excellent kisser. No exchange of anything but fluids.

 

[FunInToronto2023]

Yes many are the Andrew Tate scams. Andrew has about 30-40 girls working for him just to take money from guys online At least that's how At least that's how hedescribe it describe it. He recognize that you get book 20 or 30 girls working for you

I still don't get the Andrew Tate stuff.

It comes across as more fake than a Trump property valuation.

 

[escortsxxx]

No it's not like that at all it's very much YMMV for sugar dating. I saw a really cute girl going to university in the spring and all I did was pick her up, we went somewhere kind of discreet. We talked for a bit, went for DFK for like a half hour with other stuff going on and then I drove her back. She took too long getting ready for the date so I didn't have time to take her to dinner. Blonde/19. Pink puffy nipples. Excellent kisser. No exchange of anything but fluids.

For what service did you meet

 

[xix]

I saw this looked like all scams?

It wouldn't surprise me, But what are the rules of TERB?

- don't e-transfer money for anyone ever - unless reviewed here.
- If it is to good to be true then must be false
- searching for cheap sex will cost more than imagined.
- Trust the Force not your small brain

 

[RobI]

I saw this looked like all scams?

There's another thread on here about somebody using Telegram in Turkey to meet girls, in Toronto I don't think it's that popular - most of the ones on "Near Me" seemed to be bots plus dudes.

 

[RobI]

Yes many are the Andrew Tate scams. Andrew has about 30-40 girls working for him just to take money from guys online At least that's how At least that's how hedescribe it describe it. He recognize that you get book 20 or 30 girls working for you

You mean the Hustler U? - that was more about teaching kids how to make money online (not to be confused with Hustler, the Woody Harrelson movie). Basically use controversy to sell products, not exactly a new idea

 

[RobI]

just want to share my experience, dont want to bother reading this whole thread...

I been using secret benefits with success, im a straight shooter, I send one sentence to every pretty verified member there "HOW MUCH FOR SEX?", and most of the time you will get ignored, or they will ask for your pic and sometimes they will give u their Pay per meet price... Lowest was 150$ PSE experience, special service, young curvy white student.. highest was $1500... and avg is asking price $300... I have met 5 ladies in the past 1.5 years and its been great alternative to find the pretty one as you can see their face pic and videos of themselves..

Thanks for sharing that, honestly, I would steer well clear of Secret Benefits (if LeoList is promoting it, you know something is up). They charge you credits for everything - even if a girl shares her pics, you have to pay credits to see them.
But obviously, your success speaks for itself. Yes, 300-600 is probably my average too. Do the girls actually use terms like "special service" now? I figured that was just an Asian escort thing?

 

[escortsxxx]

You mean the Hustler U? - that was more about teaching kids how to make money online (not to be confused with Hustler, the Woody Harrelson movie). Basically use controversy to sell products, not exactly a new idea

No i cant find his convo but this has him pretending to be women to get money.

3 40 min.

He used to have it on youtube... How to get money out of men via fake sex. Bait and switch.
Is basically gone past leo list.

But the deposit scam no results was one early move he brAgs about...
The hustler scam was fundementally legal But the earlier scams were fraud but working on the principal sps Don't get charged for fraud Generally.

So he traded down For less review per hour But safer.

This is not uncommon. Bootleggers and smugglers doing a few runs and then converting the money into legitimate bizs. Sps in the usa the same. Short term high risk.

 

[RobI]

No i cant find his convo but this has him pretending to be women to get money.

...

Interesting, I'd never actually heard of this guy until that whole "most terrifying man on the internet" or something a few years back. But yes, pretending to be a woman is hilarious - not exactly Top G behaviour

 

[escortsxxx]

Interesting, I'd never actually heard of this guy until that whole "most terrifying man on the internet" or something a few years back. But yes, pretending to be a woman is hilarious - not exactly Top G behaviour

Master scammer. Does whatever it takes to maximize money.

 

[tylerd]

I wish I went to terb first on this! As usual it's a wealth of knowledge.

I've tried seeking the last month. For almost 50 I'm fit but I'm hair challenged!

Maybe my expectations are bad or I'm picking the wrong girls or I'm very rusty with "dating" but I am disappointed. The hunt can be fun. The conversation has been good, sex is easy to get but I haven't had even decent sex yet, even a good kisser. It's one and out the door. The only reason I haven't quit is I have time left on subscription but not renewing.

For now my vote is with SP's.

 

[fiesta519]

Currently on seeking, have had a good amount of matches but the expectations from the women are unrealistic. It's better value for me to stick with SPs where I have control of choosing what experience I want.

 

[fiesta519]

Thanks for sharing that, honestly, I would steer well clear of Secret Benefits (if LeoList is promoting it, you know something is up). They charge you credits for everything - even if a girl shares her pics, you have to pay credits to see them.
But obviously, your success speaks for itself. Yes, 300-600 is probably my average too. Do the girls actually use terms like "special service" now? I figured that was just an Asian escort thing?

Secret Benefits is a scam site. Fake profiles to get you to sign up and use your free credits. Plus you have to pay for everything. Once you purchase your first set of credits you quickly realize that most the profiles are fake. I told them this while deleting my account and they credited me

 

[escortsxxx]

hahaha love this.

And yet removed from our primeval cousins, so many modern cavemen still the average woman as average, while refusing to look in the mirror - they themselves refusing to wax their ugly, hairy backs, do situps to remove their Miller Genuine Draft pack, properly wash their balls, underarms and asses nor take care of their teeth and breath. Then partake to this review board and declare "No DFK, no chemistry, brief CBJ only, only one shot in an hour and she wanted out of there. Do not recommend."

Yet I hear young ladies claim there bjs are famously good. But during the act how often does a man say "its good, but among the worst I have had. Cold McDonald's for sure?
With civilians men lie even more both to be polite and hope that the future will be better.

 

[Leimonis]

Currently on seeking, have had a good amount of matches but the expectations from the women are unrealistic. It's better value for me to stick with SPs where I have control of choosing what experience I want.

Yeah when I hear $1000 per date I also feel like that. Although it would probably be at least three hours so even that per hour may not be that bad.