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I’m down in the US and went on a mng that went great. She is smart, attractive and seems to have her shit together. I dropped her at her condo and as she’s leaving she asked if she could ‘borrow’ $40. I didn’t have it as I carry a limited amount of cash. Still had a nice hug and kiss and planned to meet later. Then she’s texting me asking to send via venmo or zelle. I have neither. I said I would get it to her next time I see her. Since she gave me her real name I did some checking and found her mug shot for a recent(October 2023) Dui. I understand this can happen to anyone.

Am I being rinsed ? Should I run for the hills ?
 
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I’m down in the US and went on a mng that went great. She is smart, attractive and seems to have her shit together. I dropped her at her condo and as she’s leaving she asked if she could ‘borrow’ $40. I didn’t have it as I carry a limited amount of cash. Still had a nice hug and kiss and planned to meet later. Then she’s texting me asking to send via venmo or zelle. I have neither. I said I would get it to her next time I see her. Since she gave me her real name I did some checking and found her mug shot for a recent(October 2023) Dui. I understand this can happen to anyone.

Am I being rinsed ? Should I run for the hills ?
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I think and believe there is ( as there was in the physical past) now in the present is a bit of leg work to find lady of the hour in a different way.

Historical fact?

Hear me out. Let's take the 70's. The only way you can find SP back then is word of mouth or Classifieds in the newspapers. Simple statement.
Back then you had to physically go and see for yourself.
Once that area was "raided", the SP's would move to another location. Then you had to star over again. That new area would pickup steam or more people and local people complaint to police and the raid would have again, twice in the summer. The circle of life, it has been happening like this forever.

So the 80's took a twist and few elite people started using the BBS, Classifieds, newspaper and word of mouth still the same.
In the 90's Internet still some BBS, Classifieds, newspaper and word of mouth still the same.
Well mid 2015's or when smart phone came out BB, a paradigm shift, dating websites etc.
Now 2020's, google street view, Internet, Reviews, are new norm to the old BBS, Classifieds, newspaper and word of mouth still the same.
Once a medium has been chosen by the masses, prices seem to go up? or quality down? depends who you talk to and what you think. This is just an observation piece or writing no judgement.

So yes there are people who stay ahead of the curve because they don't want to be seen. And the middle group are people who use the common media to make contact.

You can apply this to Dating.
I also forgot that taverns, bars, clubs were around since the beginning of time till the 2015's it started to die down, thanks to Covid.

So how do you stay ahead of the curve?
My answer, going to new apps or less used apps, New social website, but ALOT patience's is required. So do you want it quick, pay for it, do you want to spend countless hours searching?
Also find the latest and newest thing to stay ahead.
Love the historical information
 

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From my exchange today:

The girl:
In my successful arrangements, we started by doing drinks and dinner as our first meet and then I was compensated 500$ as a gift of good faith. To be fair, it takes far more effort for a woman to get ready and put in that effort, and when I have not asked for any compensation, I have been severely disappointed in the past 😅 then after the first date if we like eachother the second meet we could go back to yours, but I like to build naturally and I also have to look out for my safety if you know what I mean?

Me:
I think what you mean is: if I don’t hear back from you after the first date I’m out $500 and if you don’t hear from me after the first date you’re out some makeup?
 
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I refuse to use these sugar daddy dating sites, I'd rather just pay an SP. I will echo a couple of posts I saw about Hinge. It's been great for me. I've approached it as a game of odds. You SHOULD get lucky at least 1/10. Since September, I've been on dates with 7 girls and I've banged 2 of them. I've been picking restaurants and places I actually want to try myself and treat them as company. Total money spent on 7 girls is about $1000. The number of times I've fucked is 21. Average it out to be $50 a nut, way worth it in my opinion! The girl I'm seeing now has been paying for everything since I picked up the $130 tab from the first date. The only downer I have from these experiences is that the BJs aren't very good.
I've been doing the SA experience for a couple of months. (paid for 1 month, have a dozen good girls to see now). But none of them can give a decent BJ! I don't get it. These girls are down to fuck, real, normal women who just cant afford rent, or want some mad money to self indulge a little. But even with a little direction which they seem to enjoy, the BJ's suck!
 

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I've been doing the SA experience for a couple of months. (paid for 1 month, have a dozen good girls to see now). But none of them can give a decent BJ! I don't get it. These girls are down to fuck, real, normal women who just cant afford rent, or want some mad money to self indulge a little. But even with a little direction which they seem to enjoy, the BJ's suck!
In the primeval era, scarce were the moments when the caveman stumbled upon a rare gem. The young man, in his primal wisdom, hailed mediocrity as if it were the pinnacle of achievement—a celebration of the utterly ordinary. For in a world where finding a decent can of beans was an accomplishment, and where politeness often masked a lack of alternatives, the bar for praise was set low, dancing in tandem with the flickering firelight of limited choices. Now you pay the price.
 
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I'd say the re-brand for Seeking is just putting lipstick on a pig. In some ways it's not fair for new girls joining that they'll experience exotic adventures.
Not that they won't but most of us can't do that if we're married. And if not married, most of us will do this thing called "Actual Dating"
Sir, this is an escort review board, if we did "Actual Dating" we wouldn't be here :D

Pretty sure this encapsulates majority of people sugaring nowadays.

Makes it easier for us that don't penny pinch to see girls since the bar is set so low from other interactions.
Yes, I've traded links with some guys and they've talked to some of these girls, and they say there are guys who basically expect them to be LeoList hookers, like asking if they can come in their ass in the first conversation :(

That's what you're competing with, like if you actually talk to them like a girl from a bar or the gym, you're probably going to end up paying less. Mind you, yes, if some girl is asking for $1000 first time, definitely tell them, thanks and good luck :)
 

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I've been doing the SA experience for a couple of months. (paid for 1 month, have a dozen good girls to see now). But none of them can give a decent BJ! I don't get it. These girls are down to fuck, real, normal women who just cant afford rent, or want some mad money to self indulge a little. But even with a little direction which they seem to enjoy, the BJ's suck!
Aren't BJs supported to suck? (kidding, I'll show myself out now...)

The funny thing is, there are a lot of girls (one reason I avoid the 18/19yo) that haven't had a dozen boyfriends, just like we got to learn how DATY and not cum in 3 pumps, they have to learn how to do a solid bj - the good thing is you can teach them how to do it just the way YOU like it :)
 
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Lol I'm not married so I don't have that problem. Is $1000 a lot over a couple of months? The 5 girls I didn't fuck totaled maybe $400? Semi-fancy lunch and dinners. I didn't mind, all of them bought me coffee or desert as not to be rude. The first girl I fucked we went on 6 dates before we called it quits. Current girl now we are onto week 4 and she's been cool. She enjoys nights in or going straight home to fuck after a dinner.

Based on your SD experience, what is the arrangement?
That's good, yes that's like my experience pre-pandemic, usually going for dinner or drinks at a decent place (not the Keg, but maybe Milestones or State and Main), sometimes we'd get dessert for takeout, and then some fun at my place afterwards. Make them feel like it's a date out but be sensible with your money. Some girls now are definitely up for the straight PPM, you cover their Uber (or they drive) and it's a straigfh hook-up.
 

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I think and believe there is ( as there was in the physical past) now in the present is a bit of leg work to find lady of the hour in a different way.

Historical fact?

Hear me out. Let's take the 70's. The only way you can find SP back then is word of mouth or Classifieds in the newspapers. Simple statement.
Back then you had to physically go and see for yourself.
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That's a good way of looking at it. Thanks. I was surprised when I realized SnapChat (I thought it had come and gone sometime in the mid-2010s) is what a lot of younger sugar babies use now.
 

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OK I have a question - if you use Hinge don't you have your entire face and life for everyone to see?
If you're married you can't exactly go on an actual dating app otherwise I'd for sure do the same - I actually started the horrible behaviour by joining Tinder and dated so many girls it was crazy. One of them called me out for being married after we hooked up and I swear she actually knew it ahead of time. Then another called me out after our first date and I decided I couldn't risk it anymore.

If you're doing that on Hinge and spending that amount of money, you can do the same on a SD site and have a much higher batting average. But at the same time if you're having a great time and the girls are having a great time - then that's excellent and it's all that matters!
I'd think the advantage of hinge would be access to not yet converted SBs because seeking has a fairly small number of potentials
I admit I have zero experience with civilian apps
has anyone been able to make it work??
 

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That's a good way of looking at it. Thanks. I was surprised when I realized SnapChat (I thought it had come and gone sometime in the mid-2010s) is what a lot of younger sugar babies use now.
Yes my young co worker mentioned SnapChat. That is how he got his weed. So I wouldn't be surprised if you can get something else.;)
 
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Telegram people near me 2023 11 12 8:30pm.
I don't bother contacting people.
 

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That's good, yes that's like my experience pre-pandemic, usually going for dinner or drinks at a decent place (not the Keg, but maybe Milestones or State and Main), sometimes we'd get dessert for takeout, and then some fun at my place afterwards. Make them feel like it's a date out but be sensible with your money. Some girls now are definitely up for the straight PPM, you cover their Uber (or they drive) and it's a straigfh hook-up.
Reviews?

Sugar daddy's have totally changed over the last couple of years. In the middle class sugar daddy seems to disappear.

1 time girls didn't want to expose themselves too constant clients And it was a sort of a hybrid between gf with a touch of sp.

Now It's mostly variations on a sps.. Primarily looking for men who will overpay or Want platonic.
But I imagine it has all variations As it changes by the person Despite the schools for sugar babies on line..
 
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