Some masks better than others

[shack]

Phil C. McNasty said:
Obviously if only 50 out of 100 people wore a N95 mask it wouldnt make much of a difference.
shack said:
Tell me how your statement does not mean that wearing wearing N95 alone, is insufficient. Or are you just going to be a broken record?

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

No alternate explanation means you agree with me.

Good masks AND compliance with guidelines is what's needed.

 

[shack]

It is not that wearing them alone is insufficient. It is when only 50% of the population using it that it then becomes insufficient. It is about the amount of people not using them, not the masks itself.

At least that is my take away, but again, I am tuning in 46 pages into the thread. I may have this out of context.

The point is that from mid-Oct until New Years, against guidelines there were tons of parties and gatherings with eating and drinking where people were taking off their masks along with so many demonstrations and defiant people against masks and other regs. That corresponds exactly to the last huge spike we had. It proves that masks alone do not stop infections. It does not prove that only N95s work, Phil's assertion.

Hence having masks alone, any kind, is not sufficient. The spike in cases proves that N95 masks alone do not work.

Good masks AND compliance is needed.

 

[Jenesis]

The point is that from mid-Oct until New Years, against guidelines there were tons of parties and gatherings with eating and drinking where people were taking off their masks along with so many demonstrations and defiant people against masks and other regs. That corresponds exactly to the last huge spike we had. It proves that masks alone do not stop infections. It does not prove that only N95s work, Phil's assertion.

Hence having masks alone, any kind, is not sufficient. The spike in cases proves that N95 masks alone do not work.

Good masks AND compliance is needed.

Ahhh. That was the missing component. Yes compliance is needed as well or it doesn't matter if it is N95 masks that are used or not.

 

[shack]

Ahhh. That was the missing component. Yes compliance is needed as well or it doesn't matter if it is N95 masks that are used or not.

I think the broken record will be skipping the next time we hear from it.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Phil C. McNasty said:
Obviously if only 50 out of 100 people wore a N95 mask it wouldnt make much of a difference.
shack said:
Tell me how your statement does not mean that wearing wearing N95 alone, is insufficient. Or are you just going to be a broken record?


No alternate explanation means you agree with me.

Good masks AND compliance with guidelines is what's needed.

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

 

[shack]

LOL. Nothing to say is the sound of defeat.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

LOL. Nothing to say is the sound of defeat

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

 

[basketcase]

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

How is improperly wearing masks going to help?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

How is improperly wearing masks going to help?

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

 

[shack]

Phil C. McNasty said:
Obviously if only 50 out of 100 people wore a N95 mask it wouldnt make much of a difference.
shack said:
Tell me how your statement does not mean that wearing wearing N95 alone, is insufficient. Or are you just going to be a broken record?


No alternate explanation means you agree with me.

Good masks AND compliance with guidelines is what's needed.

You admitted above that masks alone are not enough. You have no alternate interpretation of your statement.

Effective masks AND compliance is required.

You are acting like a child and looking very foolish.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You admitted above that masks alone are not enough. You have no alternate interpretation of your statement.

Effective masks AND compliance is required.

You are acting like a child and looking very foolish

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

 

[squeezer]

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

I'm going to do 20 situps every time you post this in this thread from now on. I should have a 6 pack by spring!!!

 

[shack]

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

You know Phil. I enjoy a good debate and I never mind if I lose when confronted with facts and logic. It means I've learned things.

At this point, you have given up debating., which is an admission that you have no answer to my question and can only post your nonsensical mantra. I have lost respect because you are acting like a childish goof. To act like you have and think that you are justified in putting frank on ignore is a total joke. He is easily a more proficient debater than you are with your childish tactics. Even if you are not embarrassed, which you should be, I will be embarrassed for you.

You have proved nothing except that you've proved to the whole board how juvenile you are.

 

[squeezer]

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

You know Phil. I enjoy a good debate and I never mind if I lose when confronted with facts and logic. It means I've learned things.

At this point, you have given up debating., which is an admission that you have no answer to my question and can only post your nonsensical mantra. I have lost respect because you are acting like a childish goof. To act like you have and think that you are justified in putting frank on ignore is a total joke. He is easily a more proficient debater than you are with your childish tactics. Even if you are not embarrassed, which you should be, I will be embarrassed for you.

You have proved nothing except that you've proved to the whole board how juvenile you are.

Now, this was a complete KO in the 8 round! Phil, I'm walking out shaking my head thinking you threw in the white towel, splatted in the corner behind your stool and muttered in a beaten-down squeaky voice

"Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed, I GIVE UP!"

1, 2 ,3 sit ups man sit ups, I don't want to end up a beaten man in the 8th round!

 

[Jenesis]

You know Phil. I enjoy a good debate and I never mind if I lose when confronted with facts and logic. It means I've learned things.

At this point, you have given up debating., which is an admission that you have no answer to my question and can only post your nonsensical mantra. I have lost respect because you are acting like a childish goof. To act like you have and think that you are justified in putting frank on ignore is a total joke. He is easily a more proficient debater than you are with your childish tactics. Even if you are not embarrassed, which you should be, I will be embarrassed for you.

You have proved nothing except that you've proved to the whole board how juvenile you are.

Now, this was a complete KO in the 8 round! Phil, I'm walking out shaking my head thinking you threw in the white towel, splatted in the corner behind your stool and muttered in a beaten-down squeaky voice

"Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed, I GIVE UP!"

1, 2 ,3 sit ups man sit ups, I don't want to end up a beaten man in the 8th round!

Yup. He took Philly out.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You know Phil. I enjoy a good debate and I never mind if I lose when confronted with facts and logic. It means I've learned things.

At this point, you have given up debating., which is an admission that you have no answer to my question and can only post your nonsensical mantra. I have lost respect because you are acting like a childish goof. To act like you have and think that you are justified in putting frank on ignore is a total joke. He is easily a more proficient debater than you are with your childish tactics. Even if you are not embarrassed, which you should be, I will be embarrassed for you.

You have proved nothing except that you've proved to the whole board how juvenile you are

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Now, this was a complete KO in the 8 round! Phil, I'm walking out shaking my head thinking you threw in the white towel, splatted in the corner behind your stool and muttered in a beaten-down squeaky voice

"Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed, I GIVE UP!"

1, 2 ,3 sit ups man sit ups, I don't want to end up a beaten man in the 8th round!

Current masks arent working. Mass-wearing of N95 masks is whats needed

 

[I'm Me]

Wow quite the battle of the masks going on here. I'll check this thread once a week to see who's winning the internet- it's a real nail biter.

My favourite mask of choice are the blue disposable ones. I find they're the lightest and most comfortable. I modify them by making two discrete slits up inside the middle pleet so my nose can exhaust CO2 better.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

My posts are all on-topic, shack.

I'm not the one who's frustrated and has to resort to numerous personal attacks

 

[TeeJay]

Masks work but we need to lockdown again just because

The logic of the mask breathers is astonishing