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Snow White - Go Woke Go Broke Movie Flop

Bucktee

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Why are you so obsessed with this gay-coded children's cartoon character from 1937? How good is your life that you have bandwidth to even think about this?
Adults shouldn't be interested in what media their children consume? Are you a parent?

I think you're missing the entire point of the thread.
 
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So.....that's why there are objective metrics like box office and an amalgamation of professional movie critics (who tend to be more liberal). Of course, critics are subjective but that's why I noted an amalgamation like rotten tomatoes. From what we can see, there is no word of mouth building for this movie.
I don't disagree on how movies are rated or what a lack of marketing (which you seemed to imply, that I will take you at your word for) can do, but this is off topic.
I said some people hate on Disney in general. I personally hate on Disney because they overpaid for many assets. They have many tired franchises.
Okay, but again off topic as this has nothing to do with this controversy.
And that is your opinion. I often have a hard time trying to determine what was the action and what was the reaction to cultural politics. If someone tells me that a university has 240 DEI specific administrators, I can say I think that is overkill.

To remind you, when you don't live in the United States you are relying on how the media you follow portrays events. Those of us here have many first-hand interactions with these government and institutional policies.
In Canada we have far more DEI policies and practices than the US.
So in my opinion we are just as informed/experienced.
I also think "You don't live here, so you don't know" is a cop out.
Just because you live in the US does not mean you have first hand interactions with all these government institutions and their DEI policies.
It really depends on your position, work and circumstances in life and therefore the majority of Americans are none the wiser and rely on the same sources that I do for information.
However, this is again off topic.
To remind you, the topic of this thread is that this movie flopped because it was "woke".
My response to that is, that it is more likely that it is not a very good movie that is entertaining.
Most people don't politicize their movie watching experience.
But some people like the OP seem to.
 

richaceg

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There is no objective definition of "creative".
You either like someone's creative product or you don't.

Reimagining an old story is not taking a political stance.
My criticism is that the MAGA cult politicizes it due to their obsession with race, gender and sexual orientation.
Also let us not mislabel far right, fascist, white nationalism, that is MAGA as conservatism.
You keep on ragging about the obsession of the MAGA / RIght on gender and sexual orientation...
Yet I have not seen you rag about the Left Obsession on Trans trying to compete on women sports or pushing their identity based on how they feel...oh wait...because you support it and think a trans is a woman even if in possession of a penis at birth.... yes yes?
This is a woman to you...
 

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Adults shouldn't be interested in what media their children consume?
They should.
But an adult should not be concerned with their child watching Snow White (2025) because they decided to politicize it as "woke" and shove their political views down their child's throat.
 

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Yet I have not seen you rag about the Left Obsession on Trans trying to compete on women sports...
That is because the left are not obsessed with that topic. Only the right are.
Your own behaviour is an example.
You chose to bring trans women in sports into a thread about the movie Snow White.
I did not even think of it. Hence you are obsessed. I am not.
 
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I think it's because Disney has made some, let's say some interesting choices over the years that have been a bit off brand. It's easy for everyone including Disney to be dragged into distracting political debate. Then on top of it Disney clearly has strategic and tactical business issues. They don't seem to have focus. So Disney is easy to kick around.

I just look at Snow White as a tired Disney franchise. The story is from 1812. When someone says a movie is a "reimagining", there's generally a lack of creative energy.
Disney is in the hands of the woke cult...Let's just call it for what it is..It's that 80/20 rule that the Democrats are following now. They pick an issue where 80% of the public favours one way and they back the other 20%. Then they wonder why they're tanking so bad.

Woking up Snow White was never going to work...Everybody sees this but them, lol.
 
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That is because the left are not obsessed with that topic. Only the right are.
Your own behaviour is an example.
You chose to bring trans women in sports into a thread about the movie Snow White.
I did not even think of it. Hence you are obsessed. I am not.
I brought it as an example...the left is obsessed with the idea that men can be women...their obsession go as fas as to bring drag into schools...yeah...if you don't call that obsession...then there is no argument...
 

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Adults shouldn't be interested in what media their children consume? Are you a parent?

I think you're missing the entire point of the thread.
Since you've put it out there: What part of Snow White (2025) is harmful to children, especially compared to the 1937 version?

And disney is netting billions of dollars per year. Hard to back up the "go broke" part with this objective reality.
 
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Disney is in the hands of the woke cult...Let's just call it for what it is..It's that 80/20 rule that the Democrats are following now. They pick an issue where 80% of the public favours one way and they back the other 20%. Then they wonder why they're tanking so bad.

Woking up Snow White was never going to work...Every sees this but them, lol.
I don't feel strongly that is the case. Disney perhaps stupidly got caught up in politics. It seemed like their executives and employees wanted to use their influence in political matters.
However, I think there are serious issues with the product and intellectual property.
 

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I brought it as an example...the left is obsessed with the idea that men can be women...
People with leftist views neither created this thread, nor did they bring up the topic of trans women.
Only the MAGA loves did.
Therefore, my statement that MAGA are obsessed with race, gender and sexual orientation is accurate.
 
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richaceg

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People with leftist views neither created this thread, nor did they bring up the topic of trans women.
Only the MAGA loves did.
Therefore, my statement that MAGA are obsessed with race, gender and sexual orientation is accurate.
nice try...what was the thread about? Just a thread telling the left what happens when you push an agenda that's borderline lunacy...and guess who's here to complain? You...because if you aren't obsessed...you won't be in this thread...but here you are...
 

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nice try...what was the thread about? Just a thread telling the left what happens when you push an agenda that's borderline lunacy...and guess who's here to complain? You...because if you aren't obsessed...you won't be in this thread...but here you are...
This is more fun.
MAGA can't take on Disney, they're just a bunch of bullies who will back down as soon as Disney talks about jobs in Florida.
Every single time.

At least its better than the usual bully threads on LGBTQ and trans.
 

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Except they weren't pushing an agenda and that accusation is solely from the right.
Therefore my statement that MAGA are obsessed with race, gender and sexual orientation is correct.
Now that's just your opinion...Zeggler ran her mouth...she got a reaction...and now her film are only breaking even...
 

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Total budget for production and marketing of the film is around $370 million.

The film has grossed $143 million worldwide.

It needs to gross around $500 million just to make good on the investment.

But things are only getting worse...


Word got out that it ain't the classic tale that millions had come to know and love over the past century.

But this has been Disney's modus operandi for years now.

Disney doesn't seem bothered by the box office catastrophes of wokeness. Its billionaire owners champion wokeness above ticket sales and they're willing to promote wokeness as a loss leader in theatres and make up for it in other areas of their business.
 
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