The fact is though, if you will keep a car for about 100K km, it does not cost you ANY EXTRA $$ to use snows in winter. It is 100% cost neutral...maybe even cheaper.
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but if you lease for 3 years it's a direct hit cuz you'd otherwise be able to simply drive on one set of all-seasons
Some people cant see the forest for the bullshit. It's good for manufacturing though which is always good.
"Winter tires are typically credited with reducing stopping distances on ice- or snow-covered roads by as much as 25 per cent."
If you dont know anything about the topic dont bother posting, chump.
Every year....the same morons who say you don't need "snow" tires in the GTA, are the first to wipe out.
Actually, it's not for snow so much, it's for increased traction and stability on "icy" and "slushy" road surfaces.
Those who say different probably have little experience in winter driving.
Actually, it's not for snow so much, it's for increased traction and stability on "icy" and "slushy" road surfaces.
Those who say different probably have little experience in winter driving.
Plus, if you ski, if you go north, if you go West, if you go east, etc.
I put some Bridgestone Blizzak WS-60's on one of the cars and they are absolutely amazing. Also did the size drop down from 17" to 16" rims, but I hate seeing the steel rims, so I bought aluminum rims for the Blizzaks as well. And to put my two cents in, I agree with what's being said - you need to put the snows on all 4 wheels or else don't bother, and make sure you take them off the car when temps start hitting 8C in the spring.
Winter tires are for winter, All Season tires are for spring, summer and fall. Plain and simple. Do the research, winter tires make a huge difference.
Because you are gonna go through a set of tires anyway... so if you run snows 5 months a year the other tires will last longer.
Only if you keep your miles low enough to meet the threadwear limits on the lease agreement.
There are some tires like Nokian WR's that are good for year round use and excellent in snow as well. I run two sets but if I did get one set I would just get the Nokians...
Or travel to Strathroy.
The only EXTRA cost is four steel wheels. If your safety, or better yet, someone else's safety isn't worth $200 over 3 or 4 years, there's something wrong. When you mount them it should only be chargeda s a rotation, nothing more. As as storage, a stet of four take up the space of two small garbage bins, wow.
Michelin X-Ice Xi2 Tires
I had two sets of Bridgestone Blizzaks and then tried Michelins. The Bridgestones were very good but the Michelins have proved to be better for traction on snow and ice and also better for wear. They were also the cheapest of the major brands. This third year year I only replaced the rear Michelin tires on a rear drive car. The front tires still have a lot of tread. The newer winter tires have less visually agressive tread patterns than older snow tires. The difference is in the more advanced rubber compound. I just bought OEM sized tires and found OEM takeoff wheels on the internet. What can get more expensive is if your car has RF senders in special valve stems. What the engineers originally put on the cars has a lot of thought behind it and works well with the computerized braking and stability systems. Tirerack.com offers great prices and quick delivery and has a network of approved installers. They will ship to you or the installer. The shipping is less than the sales tax you don't pay.
I had two sets of Bridgestone Blizzaks and then tried Michelins. The Bridgestones were very good but the Michelins have proved to be better for traction on snow and ice and also better for wear. They were also the cheapest of the major brands. This third year year I only replaced the rear Michelin tires on a rear drive car. The front tires still have a lot of tread. The newer winter tires have less visually agressive tread patterns than older snow tires. The difference is in the more advanced rubber compound. I just bought OEM sized tires and found OEM takeoff wheels on the internet. What can get more expensive is if your car has RF senders in special valve stems. What the engineers originally put on the cars has a lot of thought behind it and works well with the computerized braking and stability systems. Tirerack.com offers great prices and quick delivery and has a network of approved installers. They will ship to you or the installer. The shipping is less than the sales tax you don't pay.
This is actually dangerous and is not recommended by any vehicle manufacturer. Put them on all four wheels always.
Depends. They are starting to put high performance tires on a lot of cars, particularly German cars. The rubber compounds are softer for better traction but they wear out quite quickly. I've had two leased cars where the expensive low profile Michelin tires wore out after 45 k. I typically do 25 k per year. I'm trying the snow tire bit and it looks like I will use up most of the life of both sets before I hand the car back at the end of the lease.
Were you one of the 200 people in the ditch that I passed on Sunday night?
I agree that if you never leave the city, 98% of the time they aren't absolutely necessary, but snows are made out of rubber that works better in cold weather, so even if you aren't driving in snow, they work better in cold weather.
The other thing that you need to remember is that buying a set of winter tires doesn't really add much to your total expense over the life of the car since the summer tires will last years longer since you aren't running on them all year.
Being a pretty avid skier, I spend a lot of time driving in winter, and a good set of snows makes a HUGE difference.
This is a good thing to do if you want to spin out and have an accident. You never want to have more traction on the front axle than the rear. Otherwise if you hit ice in a curve your rear end will break loose first and pull out and pass the front end. Not good. Winter tires should be replaced in groups of 4 but, if you must put 2 on, put them on the rear axle, even if your car is front wheel drive. This is kind of dumb so put 4 on.
You also need to check for brake clearance. There must be enough room on the inside of the rim for the brake rotor and caliper. There is a limit in how much you can downsize a rim on any car. Check with someone who knows your model of car.
