Should Markjfr be banned?

[WoodPeckr]

......Royalist, Shire stock......

?!?!?!?!?!?!......LMAO!!!

Yep, bet that is a bit hard to explain .......with a straight face!


LOL, isn't that master race thingy a bit passe?.......
I mean uncle Aldolf got into a real pile of do-do over it too!

 

[LancsLad]

Glad to see you have some liberal in ya.....maybe there's hope for you.
That tory thing.....well that's just a problem you will have to live with.....

The only liberal I have in me is the occasional date with PHNINE ( nudge, nudge, and thats a very little liberal anyway).

My concept of his right to speak is more in line with my conservative outlook that his opinion is his personal property and he has the right to enjoyment of it.


None of the foregoing paragraph is meant to detract in anyway from enjoying PHNINE's little " liberal" on an infrequent basis.

 

[LancsLad]

?!?!?!?!?!?!......LMAO!!!

Yep, bet that is a bit hard to explain .......with a straight face!


LOL, isn't that master race thingy a bit passe?.......
I mean uncle Aldolf got into a real pile of do-do over it too!

Do you have any concept of what the Shires are, the whole german thing with Adolph was in europe. You may have heard of europe, its that island off the coast of Great Britain. It was us lot that piled the do-do on adolph.

 

[LancsLad]

An original Monarchist. OK, but that makes you an original Neo-Con - you know the old and failed British Empire. Neo-Cons believe what is good about America can be exported by economics or force if necessary. A lot like the ole Empire, right Lanc.

See I told you you don't have a clue. A true Conservative is little like Barry Goldwater when he says that Americans have more freedom when Government interference in people's lives are reduced - taxes are the primary source of that interference to the true Conservatives.

Sorry bloke, if your a Monarchist, you're an original Neo-Con.


bbk

Gotta go with Adam Smith on that one.


Like we say in the NCC " More freedom thru less government"

 

[onthebottom]

Do you have any concept of what the Shires are, the whole german thing with Adolph was in europe. You may have heard of europe, its that island off the coast of Great Britain. It was us lot that piled the do-do on adolph.

I think that was us, you mostly lost your battles until we gave you tanks and then men. But it was a nice place from which to launch an invasion, except for the weather.

OTB

 

[WoodPeckr]

Do you have any concept of what the Shires are, the whole german thing with Adolph was in europe.

Adolf viewed the Brits as cousins and part of the Aryan race.
There was a connection.
As such ole Adolf expected England to give him a hard time.

 

[LancsLad]

I think that was us, you mostly lost your battles until we gave you tanks and then men. But it was a nice place from which to launch an invasion, except for the weather.

OTB

You realize of course that " thems fightin words"

except for the weather bit, it is dreadful, unless you like rain and overcast, then it is heaven.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

I think that was us, you mostly lost your battles until we gave you tanks and then men. But it was a nice place from which to launch an invasion, except for the weather.

OTB

The Battle of Britain was an air war which did not involve American tanks, planes or personel. The Battle of Britain was won by British pilots, British planes and British radar. This Battle stemmed the German tide and after losing, Hitler had little stomach to fight the Brits again.

This battle took place before the U.S. got involved in the war.


I shall once again quote Sir Winston Churchill:

"never have so few done so much for so many" (RAF Pilots)

 

[LancsLad]

Still got it wrong - You can find Adam Smith's ideas on both sides of the isle. You might in fact be a true Conservative, but not as a Monarchist you can't.

..and in support of OTB, the Battle of Britain didn't win the War in Europe, it may have saved Britain's ass for the short term, the long term victory was insured when the US became more involved. Brits tend to forget that a lot of the money that built the RAF came from the US.


bbk

Unlike other countries that didn't pay America back ( france raise your hand) Great Britain went into virtual bankruptcy to finance that war and pay for supplies. Yanks got all our gold.

Lots of combatants on both sides lost their lives before American joined in. For 2 1/2 years Britain stood alone against a Germany that had all the resources of Europe to support its war effort.


Lets get back on topic here. This thread relates to the merits, pitfalls of banning Markjfr.

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

..and in support of OTB, the Battle of Britain didn't win the War in Europe, it may have saved Britain's ass for the short term, the long term victory was insured when the US became more involved. Brits tend to forget that a lot of the money that built the RAF came from the US.


bbk

I didn't say it won the war in Europe, I said it stemmed the German tide. The Battle of Britain was Germany's first loss.

OTB eluded that U.S. tanks and men saved Britain and that was simply not the case.

Read carefully next time

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Unlike other countries that didn't pay America back ( france raise your hand) QUOTE]

France usually raises both hands with a white handerchief

 

[onthebottom]

The Battle of Britain was an air war which did not involve American tanks, planes or personel. The Battle of Britain was won by British pilots, British planes and British radar. This Battle stemmed the German tide and after losing, Hitler had little stomach to fight the Brits again.

This battle took place before the U.S. got involved in the war.


I shall once again quote Sir Winston Churchill:

"never have so few done so much for so many" (RAF Pilots)

When you're fighting a sustained air war over your own cities you're losing. The British were hanging on by their fingernails (and with great tenacity for which the world owes them a debt). I mean no disrespect to the British but they didn't win that war.

OTB

 

[onthebottom]

I didn't say it won the war in Europe, I said it stemmed the German tide. The Battle of Britain was Germany's first loss.

OTB eluded that U.S. tanks and men saved Britain and that was simply not the case.

Read carefully next time

OTB said you "mostly lost your battles" which is correct - remember Northern Africa - France..... Britain did the military moonwalk until those Shermans were sent to Africa.

OTB

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

When you're fighting a sustained air war over your own cities you're losing. The British were hanging on by their fingernails (and with great tenacity for which the world owes them a debt). I mean no disrespect to the British but they didn't win that war.

OTB

I didn't say they won the war. I said they defended themselves successfully without U.S. tanks and men.

After the Battle of Britain, Hitler didn't have much desire to fight the Brits. Like someone said here earlier, he thought highly of the british.

Without a doubt, the war in Europe could not have been won without the U.S. getting involved

 

[onthebottom]

.....

What bothers me about both points of view is that neither the US or Britain would have one the War in Europe without each other and it's time to acknowledge that.



bbk

Or had the British and French pulled their heads out of their arses 5 years earlier we might not have had to fight it at all.

OTB

 

[maxweber]

second opinion

Find a mirror......

LOL

And while you're looking a sense of humor might be in order as well.

OTB

Right. Take humour lessons from someone whose idea of a joke is a coarse ad hominem, chased up with "LOL" and a smiley face.

Pass.

MW

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

Our mutual mortal enemy, Russia, also played a major role.

Not until Germany attacked them. The Soviets had a treaty with Hitler that Stalin thought would protect them. This treaty was in place because Hitler wanted to avoid fighting a war on 2 fronts. He had no intention of honouring the treaty and......

AFTER LOSING THE BATTLE OF BRITAIN, Hitler set his sights on the Soviets.


Eventually, many countries contributed to winning the war in Europe and all efforts were required. Certainly one of the most important efforts had come from the U.S.

We should never under-estimate the value the Battle of Britain had on the final outcome of the war, or forget that at the time, she stood alone.

And, for the record, I'm not British

 

[lookingforitallthetime]

What bothers me about both points of view is that neither the US or Britain would have one the War in Europe without each other and it's time to acknowledge that.



bbk

I think I have acknowledged that

 

[assoholic]

..the Brittish did not give up the Bitish Empire the US forced
them to dismantle it. People forget the animosity that existed between the US and Britain for over 200 hundred years.
Their was only gonna be one top dog in the world and FDR made sure
it was gonna be the US.

 

[assoholic]

..as always business was the key FDR forced Churchill to agree to opening up the Brittish Empire to trade with the US. With out all the economic benefits an Empire created, namely ripping off every-one else in the Empire.
There was no way the Brittish could afford the Empire.
If you cant rip 'em off, why spend the money to keep them in line.
I am not saying it was a bad thing, just a deliberate shove by the US to
knock down the Brittish a peg or two. A long cherished American dream.