Yes, because if you use a text app, a lot of girl won't answer and if you use your real phone, it's just risky for unsolicited text.
Should I be using a burner phone when contacting SPs?
- Thread starter Tipsyalt
- Start date
I think a huge issue is, how do we protect ourselves from time wasters, no shows and most importantly violent clients if we have no real phone number.
Sexworkers are physically hurt, kidnapped and murdered regularly (even in Canada).
The age of text apps has made it very difficult for us to protect ourselves and protect each other.
This is the reality for us and why so many sexworkers refuse text apps.
I understand why clients prefer complete anonymity, I do, but this is our lives at stake.
Sexworkers are physically hurt, kidnapped and murdered regularly (even in Canada).
The age of text apps has made it very difficult for us to protect ourselves and protect each other.
This is the reality for us and why so many sexworkers refuse text apps.
I understand why clients prefer complete anonymity, I do, but this is our lives at stake.
I agree that there is no right answer here for everyone but there us a right answer for each one. If SPs feel blocking text apps make then safer, then by all means block away. It is your business and your life, so do as you will. If clients feel that using text apps make them safe, then by all means use as you choose. It is your life and livelihood at stake, so spend your hard earned money as you want.
Both have legit safety concerns and no ones safety is more important than another and no ones freedom to choose who they see is more important than another. If I have a business policy that ends up pushing potential clients away, then that is a consequence I need to be able to live by if my policy is important enough to me. Likewise, if have priorities of how I choose to spend my money and that means my options might be limited as a result, then that is the consequence of maintaining my priorities. All of this is good because it ensures that peoples rights are secure and it allows us to make our own decisions that we are comfortable with.
Both have legit safety concerns and no ones safety is more important than another and no ones freedom to choose who they see is more important than another. If I have a business policy that ends up pushing potential clients away, then that is a consequence I need to be able to live by if my policy is important enough to me. Likewise, if have priorities of how I choose to spend my money and that means my options might be limited as a result, then that is the consequence of maintaining my priorities. All of this is good because it ensures that peoples rights are secure and it allows us to make our own decisions that we are comfortable with.
On the other side, I see sexworkers (only a couple) who will constantly out phone numbers on public social media (in a screenshot with the text or email) just because the person inquired about a specific service like BBBJ, or asked for a same day appointment, or did not include their name and age, or asked for rates, etc...
If someone asks my rates and services that are clearly in my ad and website, I may be annoyed. If someone only says "u avail" I just don't respond.
These are minor annoyances at best that we all deal with daily and if we don't like it, we just don't respond and move on. They are barely worth even posting in private escort forums.
For more serious incidents there are private forums for us to post information to help us stay safe and avoid time wasters and no shows.
Public online outing and shaming and potentially ruining someone's life over such minor transgressions as I listed in the first paragraph is not right IMO and only harms the escort community.
It ruins trust for discretion and pushes clients towards text apps and other methods of evasion after seeing his true number outed publicly.
It is a shame there is so much behaviour on both sides that has caused such distrust for each other.
When it comes to screening, the vast majority of us in sexwork are just trying to stay safe.
If someone asks my rates and services that are clearly in my ad and website, I may be annoyed. If someone only says "u avail" I just don't respond.
These are minor annoyances at best that we all deal with daily and if we don't like it, we just don't respond and move on. They are barely worth even posting in private escort forums.
For more serious incidents there are private forums for us to post information to help us stay safe and avoid time wasters and no shows.
Public online outing and shaming and potentially ruining someone's life over such minor transgressions as I listed in the first paragraph is not right IMO and only harms the escort community.
It ruins trust for discretion and pushes clients towards text apps and other methods of evasion after seeing his true number outed publicly.
It is a shame there is so much behaviour on both sides that has caused such distrust for each other.
When it comes to screening, the vast majority of us in sexwork are just trying to stay safe.
You’ve encapsulated the whole issue in one post.
Above I told a story about how a girl posted my number, when we’d agreed to speak at a certain time, and it happened that someone unexpectedly walked into my office then so I couldn’t answer. I called back
15 min later. she concluded I was a time waster and posted my #. I was very glad that this was a second / burner/ cell phone. So I resolved never to use a personal phone for this. That’s my hard rule.
Waay back, when I first started doing this, I had an outcall to my home. It didn’t go well, she snooped around my place a bit, agitated my dog (apparent he was a good judge of character lol). I offered her a drink and she poured half the bottle, we had a relatively uninspired time, and when she left I realized that she’d had her driver wait outside my home, with the engine idling. Not too suspicious eh? And when I left for work the next day, she’d stopped a half dozen condoms on my front walkway.After that I decided never to have an outcall to my home.
I’ve not had too many bad experiences, but it just takes a couple to realize your vulnerability. So that is why in this part of my life, I maintain a few degrees of separation, no exceptions. Now after a while with a nice girl who is a regular, I fell a bit stupid with the app number and not knowing each other’s real names, but that’s the way I’ve chosen to do this.
And the same is true on the girls’ side too (tho I admit, the stakes may be even a lot higher). I wish it weren’t the case and we could all treat each other decent , and these issues would not arise. But as other s have said, we live in a world with assholes, and each person has todecide for themselves how much they value privacy.
I followed this thread back in November, got a second phone then, and it's been OK. I went with Freedom at Carlingwood. $84 for the phone and $130 for the SIMM with a year's service, which comes to $11/month. A couple of times the SP numbers were wrong or out of date (and taken over by someone else) so I got sarcastic responses, so the 2nd phone is good for that. Also, you can basically be someone else when you use your 2nd phone. If I did it again, I'd get a better phone though.
Hey bud, not to familiar with the Sim cards but do we have to give ID or can we pay cash? anyway of ladies getting our info? Big on discretion.
Bought Speak Out (at 7/11) and Petro Can SIM cards and minutes for cash. You can buy Chatr SIM cards for cash and use a prepaid credit card (bought for cash) to pay the minutes. No ID required.
