Should Canada merge with Trump's America?

[JohnLarue]

Public sector jobs require funding from the government. Not the private sector.

where do think the govt gets the funds from ?
the private sector

The public sector in return provides everything from infrastructure to tax incentives, to the private sector.

tax incentives ?
they are a partial offset to a tax burden . that is not economic profit

infrastructure? Have you seen a 13.3% improvement in infrastructure?
Nope

It is deficit financing that affords you the quality of life you have.

that is pure nonsense and economic gibberish

no one including govt can continue borrowing in perpetuity

The private sector does not do anything to better the lives of the common citizen.

more nonsense, with the smell of putrid Marxism

how's that laptop you are posting form working for you?

They only live to serve the interest of the shareholder.

the shareholder interests are not served unless the customers / clints interests are served first

try thinking about your next meal.
you do not get to eat that meal or any other meals unless shareholders put their capital at risk in order to bring that meal to you
you would have frozen / staved to death without capitalism and fossil fuels

Trickle down economics does not work.

it seems to keep you well fed and surfing the internet

look around you, the socialist experiment in Canada has failed
and its left behind a god awful mess

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

where do think the govt gets the funds from ?
the private sector
how's that laptop you are posting form working for you?
it seems to keep you well fed and surfing the internet

Taxes are government revenue, not private sector funding.
The laptop I am posting from is a for profit product sold to me.
That is not a service.
Yes, I am well fed.
What about the ones who aren't? What does trickle down economics do for them?
Nothing. So it does not work.
The government aka public sector is what keeps those people fed and healthy.
They are also the ones who help us have a good quality of life - free healthcare, roads, infrastructure and so on.

 

[JohnLarue]

Taxes are government revenue, not private sector funding.

where do think the govt gets the government revenue from ?
the private sector
do you have a mental blind spot about where the money originated from ?

The laptop I am posting from is a for profit product sold to me.

hmm
So would you agree the the private sector participant who provided you with a product you could not cope without has bettered your life ?

or are you still shackled to this Marxist rhetoric ?

The private sector does not do anything to better the lives of the common citizen.

That is not a service.

Surfing the internet?
Yes that is a service., provided to you by a service provider for a profit

Yes, I am well fed.

And you should thank the profit seeking private sector participants for that fact
Each and every time you dine.
without them you would be dead

What about the ones who aren't? What does trickle down economics do for them?

#1 . the socialist experiment in Canada created far more of those who are not fed well
#2 there has not been any time frame in human history where there were not poor people, you cant fix human nature
a rich and prosperous society can help to a greater extent than a poor society
the private sector donates a lot , go take a look at a hospital donation wall

Nothing. So it does not work.

do not be ridiculous, you spew disingenuous rubbish

The government aka public sector is what keeps those people fed and healthy.
They are also the ones who help us have a good quality of life - free healthcare, roads, infrastructure and so on.

all of which are now at risk because of irresponsible left wing, socialist spending and dependence on unsustainable debt

In 2023/24, the federal and provincial governments are expected to spend $81.8 billion on interest payments.
which can not be spent on free healthcare, roads, infrastructure and so on.

you seem oblivious to the obvious
No-one including the govt can continue borrowing in perpetuity

and you are delusional if you think universal health care is sustainable after the loonie left govts borrowed to the max.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

I'd rather castrate myself than become a filthy Yank.

 

[silentkisser]

It's ironic that you're telling me I don't have the right to speak my mind and voice my opinion.

THAT is why the left is in decline.

You summed it up in two sentences.

Keep telling yourself that. The right isn't exactly a bastion for free speech with their book bans and freakout over pronouns. But you having the gall to call anyone unCanadian is the kicker.

 

[Skoob]

Keep telling yourself that. The right isn't exactly a bastion for free speech with their book bans and freakout over pronouns. But you having the gall to call anyone unCanadian is the kicker.

Have I demanded you can't say something like you did?

I'll wait...

 

[WyattEarp]

[QUOTE="JohnLarue, post: 875367]#1 . the socialist experiment in Canada created far more of those who are not fed well [/QUOTE]

I agree with almost everything you can say. As far as socialist experimentation, it's pretty clear a first world country can provide fairly comfortable lives for their citizens. The question is what happens in the long-run. The real risk is the society develops sclerosis and stagnates. This is only obvious when you look outside the country.

Threads like this are only the opening salvo in the upcoming Parliamentary elections. Progressives will be aggressively on watch trying to defend the recent past. As an American, I would say it really has nothing to do with what we did this November. However, there will be likely comparisons and criticisms of the U.S.

The most devious of the Progressive lot probably know that continued government expansion will lead to dependence and likely never going back. Some are just naive that the government expansion in recent years can be simply be managed and incorporated effectively.

 

[Skoob]

[QUOTE="JohnLarue, post: 875367]#1 . the socialist experiment in Canada created far more of those who are not fed well

I agree with almost everything you can say. As far as socialist experimentation, it's pretty clear a first world county can provide fairly comfortable lives for their citizens. The question is what happens in the long-run. The real risk is the society develops sclerosis and stagnates. This is only obvious when you look outside the country.

Threads like this are only the opening salvo in the upcoming Parliamentary elections. Progressives will be aggressively on watch trying to defend the recent past. As an American, I would say it really has nothing to do with what we did this November. However, there will be likely comparisons and criticisms of the U.S.

The most devious of the Progressive lot probably know that continued government expansion will lead to dependence and likely never going back. Some are just naive that the government expansion in recent years can be simply be managed and incorporated effectively.
[/QUOTE]
The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

 

[WyattEarp]

The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Hey man, I can try it. If it's not working out, I can quit anytime I want. I'm not going to get hooked.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

Let's be honest...the only reason why the US would ever want to take over Canada is because of our beer. It's better.

Everything about Canada is better than Yankistan. They're pretty much a country of fat, inbred cunts.

I speak for all True Canadians. #FuckAmerica

 

[squeezer]

FED UP Canada PM ESCALATES WARNING to Trump Threats

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/ghastly-waft-of-funk%E2%80%A6-%F0%9F%A4%AE.870795/

 

[Skoob]

Everything about Canada is better than Yankistan. They're pretty much a country of fat, inbred cunts.

I speak for all True Canadians. #FuckAmerica

To each their own...but Canada would have a hard time existing without the US, like it or not.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

To each their own...but Canada would have a hard time existing without the US, like it or not.

Not true.

 

[Skoob]

Not true.

How do you figure?

 

[boobtoucher]

Here's what I don't understand: If you want to be American, move to America. It's there, it exists.

I'm taking the "if you don't like it leave" approach here. If you're not happy with Canada, don't make it America, just move to America.

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

How do you figure?

Prior to WW2, we had very little trade with the US. And I'd be happy to go right back to that. I totally support the CANZUK movement and I hope it can get off the ground. Politically, socially and culturally, true Canadians will feel closer to the UK, Australia and New Zealand with the filth to the south of us.

Fuck the USA.

 

[escortsxxx]

where do think the govt gets the funds from ?
the private sector



tax incentives ?
they are a partial offset to a tax burden . that is not economic profit

infrastructure? Have you seen a 13.3% improvement in infrastructure?
Nope


that is pure nonsense and economic gibberish

no one including govt can continue borrowing in perpetuity



more nonsense, with the smell of putrid Marxism

how's that laptop you are posting form working for you?


the shareholder interests are not served unless the customers / clints interests are served first

try thinking about your next meal.
you do not get to eat that meal or any other meals unless shareholders put their capital at risk in order to bring that meal to you
you would have frozen / staved to death without capitalism and fossil fuels



it seems to keep you well fed and surfing the internet

look around you, the socialist experiment in Canada has failed
and its left behind a god awful mess

No fan on MarxIsm
Trickle down economics is The return to aristocracy
Which ends up with a highly inefficient state And then a revolution With all the rich people being killed.
Everybody is happy that ceo is dead. If he does a jury trial I bet he'll get jury nullification.
We are already on that path.


Deficits are how capitalism works. Trump Famous story to his daughter was he pointed to a bomb on the street and said that man has more money than I have. At the height of his empire He was a massive debt And on paper he had no money. Deficits are fine as long as they are Put towards long-term investment. They're bad when they're spent on luxury goods and frills.
Going into debt to buy a house Make sense. Going into debt to buy a sports car does not.

 

[JohnLarue]

No fan on MarxIsm
Trickle down economics is The return to aristocracy
Which ends up with a highly inefficient state And then a revolution With all the rich people being killed.
Everybody is happy that ceo is dead. If he does a jury trial I bet he'll get jury nullification.
We are already on that path.

nonsense
you have a dead CEO being tried by jury?

capital runs away from stupid
capital is required for growth , innovation and progress

everyone has the opportunity to provide a new product / service and get rich while meeting customer demand
new millionaires are made every day. and they are not aristocracy

Which ends up with a highly inefficient state And then a revolution With all the rich people being killed.

big govt is the reason for the current highly inefficient state

if there were ever to be a revolution, the commies always brutally silence opposing views and then a strongman takes control
it has happened over and over again

Deficits are how capitalism works. Trump Famous story to his daughter was he pointed to a bomb on the street and said that man has more money than I have. At the height of his empire He was a massive debt And on paper he had no money. Deficits are fine as long as they are Put towards long-term investment. They're bad when they're spent on luxury goods and frills.
Going into debt to buy a house Make sense. Going into debt to buy a sports car does not.

[/QUOTE]

Going into debt to buy govt infrastructure which will provide benefit over the life of the loan makes sense
Going into debt to pay govt operating expenses is stupid and irresponsible and that is what govts are doing

the real cost of a new govt hire is 103.5% of the salary & benefits with compounding and the cost of borrowing the money for a new govt hire remains long after that new hire retires or moves on

the Canadian Federal govt has grown 25% since numb nus took office

Since the pandemic, Canada’s public sector employment has grown nearly four times more than private sector employment

thehub.ca

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According to a new report by the Fraser Institute, from 2019 to 2023, the number of public sector employees rose by 490,000–from 3.7 to 4.2 million, making up 46.7 percent of the period’s total job growth. As of September 2024, the number of public sector employees totaled 4.4 million, or 21 percent of the total workforce.

this is not sustainable

“This is a problem, because government jobs are paid for by workers in the private sector,” explains a video published by the Fraser Institute.

 

[JohnLarue]

Not true.

No, it is very true

The US is Canada's largest trading partner, accounting for 76% of Canada's total exports.

the US economy is far more domestically oriented
Canada-U.S. trade is roughly 3% of the U.S. economy. For Canada, trade with the U.S. is roughly one-third of its economy.

 

[JohnLarue]

Prior to WW2, we had very little trade with the US. And I'd be happy to go right back to that. I totally support the CANZUK movement and I hope it can get off the ground. Politically, socially and culturally, true Canadians will feel closer to the UK, Australia and New Zealand with the filth to the south of us.

wrong again.
even in the 1930's trade with the US was 3 X that of the UK

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publications.gc.ca

as much as you would like to romanticize about how the world should be, the reality is Canada is economically dependant on the US