Should Canada merge with Trump's America?

jeff2

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Say goodbye to universal healthcare. It is insane to think of all of Canada being one state... maybe 12, but still, no friggin way.
Maybe for now we should just revisit merging with Turks and Caicos and set up universal healthcare there and get the good weather also.
Then again, maybe we need a bigger place to merge with.

 
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It was a joke...Trump likes to joke around...trolling the liberals...
Seeho math...

An example of such a joke
Is people Saying that guys should have better aim.
Just a joke. Trolling the nut bars.
 
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Which scandal do you want to start with? Lots to choose from...I'll let you pick the top 5.
How about the broken immigration system?
Carbon tax ponzi scheme perhaps?
How about affordability?
How's that federal debt looking since 2015?

How about the fact that his government is trying to adopt Conservative policies now that the polling numbers look terrible?

The greatest debt creation Device in the world is Climate change and the amount of carbon in the air. The carbon tax Is a poor mechanism indeed but it's the best 1 on the table. Come up with something better put it in 1st then phase it out. Climate changes causing trillions of dollars worldwide in damages.
Personally I go for Solar panel system Shade Array. Search a system on cost billions if not trillions of dollars but it would solve The climate change within a decade.

Affordability Is a worldwide problem. Every current leader Is being blamed for affordability. Every leader is at fault In officer In office or out Since none of them are really addressing the core problems... China War on the west, Worldwide immigration Crisis, Food and security, Water shortage and climate change. And to be fair AI soon for iypower requirements.
Also People are obsolete robots are replacing them. Negative population growth Is the only way for us prosperous future.


The debt... But with a worldwide economy being crushed by covid No government could survive that era. And since then If you try to pay the debt the entire economy will collapse Because Is beyond the point of no return. You have been running on fake money for a long time... Which ties to the Affordability crisis.

Magic housing. Even If no more immigration happened, Replacing housing does not Create a worst market every time you add artificial housing... The current housing plans in place By the conservatives Would have housing crisis about 100 years.
The liberals are gonna be much better.
1 year of immigration Will destroy 20 years Of housing gains...


The conservatives were on board with the Immigration system and are still on board with it. The only way to fix this is to lower to 0% immigration For like 10 years at minimum. The conservative want to lord by single digits. No party He's gonna do what's right currently

The conservatives have no solutions And in fact with there Only cars used to be anarchy. Like trump that make people feel better for a couple of years... Till they realize how screwed theconomics..

To give points to the conservatives ... Their complaints About the things that are wrong are correct they just have no solutions. The proposed solutions are contradictory Lowering the debt for example And improving housing.... You can't do both.
Solving the Affordability Crisis And having housing... You can't have both.
I know he's got the magic beans But it ain't fairy tale Jack.
Sometimes magic beans are just a scam...

Yes we know he will win... Trump could defeat Trudeau in Canada Under current economic conditions. Unless by some miracle Canadians learn economics
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The greatest debt creation Device in the world is Climate change and the amount of carbon in the air. The carbon tax Is a poor mechanism indeed but it's the best 1 on the table. Come up with something better put it in 1st then phase it out. Climate changes causing trillions of dollars worldwide in damages.
Carbon tax is next to useless if the emission reduction target to meet is
50% by 2030. Do you think your driving, flying and spending on other items
would be reduced anywhere close to 50%of in 5 to 6 years? Does the carbon
tax rebate you've received help you with reducing your carbon footprint?

The solution to emission reduction is simple and obvious. Our government
simply has to cut back on granting oil and gas drilling and exploration permits
and licenses. Energy producers will not be able to maintain let alone grow oil and
gas production without permission to drill new wells. Growth of oil production
is to a degree enabled by the government. Drilling 500 km offshore New Foundland
for instance was supported by climate warriors Trudeau and Guilbeault. In
the U.S. exploration for new oil in the Arctic has the blessing of Biden's approval
of the huge Alaska oil project Willow. Norway the world's mega climate change
hypocrite having beaten climate lawsuit from environmentalists in the court
has moved from the North Sea to the Arctic sea to continue drilling for
new oil. The list of governments making pledge to reduce carbon emission
to sucker climate sheeple for their votes and move on to increase oil production
also includes Australia and the UK. If not for the climate hypocrisy of these
climate leaders oil production of oil producing contries in the west could
easily be halved by 2030.

Personally I go for Solar panel system Shade Array. Search a system on cost billions if not trillions of dollars but it would solve The climate change within a decade.
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Good for you if you are affluent like Al Gore who could afford
$60,000 to install 33 solar panels in his residence. That is 2017
price. He must have become a lot richer since then. Solar panels
and EVs are for the affluent. I doubt EV will become affordable
any time soon considerng the west seem to be dead set on applying
heavy tariff on imports from China.
 

oil&gas

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How can you call yourself a Canadian by entertaining this ludicrous idea? Have some Canadian pride and values man. You’re letting your blind allegiance to Trump, racism and MAGA make you believe that this has any sort of legitimacy

The dignity of the office of the PM of Canada was already flushed down the
toilet when Trump offered Trudeau to become the governor of the 51st state
of the U.S. If our PM could act like Trump was just joking then I can't see why
entertaining the idea of Canada becoming a part of the U.S. on a hooker's
board to be ludicrous. Other than Trump I can't think of any statesman who
would joke about the country of the leader whom he was having dinner with
a 'broken shithole'. Trump's joke is a blatant insult to Canada which Trudeau
swallowed. It is our PM whom you should call on to have some Canadian pride
and value.
 

JohnLarue

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Canada has the 2nd lowest inflation rate in the G7...you know your stretchin' when you have to dig up China, South Korea and Saudi Arabia...LOL
you know your stretchin' when you have to pretend inflation has not been devastating for Canadians

The G7 are firing all the damn fool political leaders who printed money without regard for the inflation was sure to follow .... and did.

Trudeau is next
 
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escortsxxx

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Carbon tax is next to useless if the emission reduction target to meet is
50% by 2030. Do you think your driving, flying and spending on other items
would be reduced anywhere close to 50%of in 5 to 6 years? Does the carbon
tax rebate you've received help you with reducing your carbon footprint?

The solution to emission reduction is simple and obvious. Our government
simply has to cut back on granting oil and gas drilling and exploration permits
and licenses. Energy producers will not be able to maintain let alone grow oil and
gas production without permission to drill new wells. Growth of oil production
is to a degree enabled by the government. Drilling 500 km offshore New Foundland
for instance was supported by climate warriors Trudeau and Guilbeault. In
the U.S. exploration for new oil in the Arctic has the blessing of Biden's approval
of the huge Alaska oil project Willow. Norway the world's mega climate change
hypocrite having beaten climate lawsuit from environmentalists in the court
has moved from the North Sea to the Arctic sea to continue drilling for
new oil. The list of governments making pledge to reduce carbon emission
to sucker climate sheeple for their votes and move on to increase oil production
also includes Australia and the UK. If not for the climate hypocrisy of these
climate leaders oil production of oil producing contries in the west could
easily be halved by 2030.




Good for you if you are affluent like Al Gore who could afford
$60,000 to install 33 solar panels in his residence. That is 2017
price. He must have become a lot richer since then. Solar panels
and EVs are for the affluent. I doubt EV will become affordable
any time soon considerng the west seem to be dead set on applying
heavy tariff on imports from China.
The purpose of such an array is to directly lower temperatures by reducing the sun that hits the earth. The solar panels themselves are just Wellness energy to several Nuclear power plants.

The purpose of such an array is to directly lower temperatures by reducing the sun that hits the earth. The solar panels themselves are just Wellness energy to several Nuclear power plants. The major issue would be the broadcairplanes. , Which has not been tested At that level. Free electricity for the world What also cause major over use of electronics ... Rare earth metal problems magnified. . We have similar issues with the move towards workingat homeat a much smaller scale.
Well I don't disagree with you These things are in steps. Overton window has to be Moved. Smoking reduction started with Having smoking sections Which were basically useless on airplanes. But the window changed And now you can't even smoke in bars. Oil and gas we're still at the stage where Doctors recommended people to Smoke Because the tobacco coming is paid to do so.. Hence the climate denial.
 

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The dignity of the office of the PM of Canada was already flushed down the
toilet when Trump offered Trudeau to become the governor of the 51st state
of the U.S. If our PM could act like Trump was just joking then I can't see why
entertaining the idea of Canada becoming a part of the U.S. on a hooker's
board to be ludicrous. Other than Trump I can't think of any statesman who
would joke about the country of the leader whom he was having dinner with
a 'broken shithole'. Trump's joke is a blatant insult to Canada which Trudeau
swallowed. It is our PM whom you should call on to have some Canadian pride
and value.
Trump is an idiot, of course. He called Biden's America a broken shithole too, (which was a lie). But now it's suddenly "great again"...lol
 
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As somebody who was educated and worked and lived in the US while a Canadian citizen. I previously have mentioned my health issues i am only alive due to having access to the top US hospitals.If not for these hospitals I would have been dead with the Canadian health care system. If Canadians are given the affordable care act, social security, and lower taxes why should we stay in this shit hole. I know people do not like me saying this country is a shit hole but unfortunately that is now the truth. Trump only has 4 years to implement this. It looks like we are stuck with Canada for good.
 

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The purpose of such an array is to directly lower temperatures by reducing the sun that hits the earth. The solar panels themselves are just Wellness energy to several Nuclear power plants.

The purpose of such an array is to directly lower temperatures by reducing the sun that hits the earth. The solar panels themselves are just Wellness energy to several Nuclear power plants. The major issue would be the broadcairplanes. , Which has not been tested At that level. Free electricity for the world What also cause major over use of electronics ... Rare earth metal problems magnified. . We have similar issues with the move towards workingat homeat a much smaller scale.
Well I don't disagree with you These things are in steps. Overton window has to be Moved. Smoking reduction started with Having smoking sections Which were basically useless on airplanes. But the window changed And now you can't even smoke in bars. Oil and gas we're still at the stage where Doctors recommended people to Smoke Because the tobacco coming is paid to do so.. Hence the climate denial.

Fossil Fuels represent 81.5% of the planets energy consumption , down from 83% several decades ago and after hundreds of billions of dollars were directed at the green energy unicorn.

Hence the reality denial.

This is reality:
restricting fossil fuel use will kill millions and push hundreds of millions into abject poverty.
 

oil&gas

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Smoking reduction started with Having smoking sections Which were basically useless on airplanes. But the window changed And now you can't even smoke in bars. Oil and gas we're still at the stage where Doctors recommended people to Smoke Because the tobacco coming is paid to do so.. Hence the climate denial.

Smoking reduction started with many smokers taking the initiatives
to quit smoking once and for all for good health. You can be sure those
who brought tobacco companies to court were already committed
non-smokers when they filed their lawsuit.

Smoking reduction proceeding in a similar fashion to the climate
movement would see medical doctors smoking like chimneys while
warning their patients of getting killed by cancer if they don't quit.
Counterparts of such medical doctors in the climate movement
are Al Gore, John Kerry, Leonardo Di Caprio, David Suzuki, Justin
Trudeau, Harrison Ford among many other shameless climate hypocrites.
 

escortsxxx

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Smoking reduction started with many smokers taking the initiatives
to quit smoking once and for all for good health. You can be sure those
who brought tobacco companies to court were already committed
non-smokers when they filed their lawsuit.

Smoking reduction proceeding in a similar fashion to the climate
movement would see medical doctors smoking like chimneys while
warning their patients of getting killed by cancer if they don't quit.
Counterparts of such medical doctors in the climate movement
are Al Gore, John Kerry, Leonardo Di Caprio, David Suzuki, Justin
Trudeau, Harrison Ford among many other shameless climate hypocrites.
and that is the historical record as what happened . . .
so you agree with my comparison I take it.

But the AL core of the time
Luther L. Terry, the Surgeon General of the United States at the time, was a smoker himself when he released the first Surgeon General's Report on Smoking and Health in 1964


Of note stupid silly measures can be very effective: the 5 cent charge on plastic bags in Ontario had people out spit using there own bags . . . I thought pure performance but within a week of the change it was night and day. The reason I heard at the cash was nothing to do with the social good, it was spite - how dare we get ripped off by 5 cents. Yet it created the climate to eventual ban plastic bags years later . . .
Just like we went from horses to cars in 10 years, create a culture/habit with support and society will change -
-look at how radical the sex industry has changed with the new laws - first with the brass rail touching law, and then Harpers crazy men are always wrong -
Or one I am against is the land apology we now have in college and university text books, creating a generation that believes first nations are superior to the rest of Canada from a 180 degree turn in two generations.
 
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Sure, why not.
The conservatives make a strong case:

The North and Its Many Sorrows
Canada is a curious country. It stretches wide like an overcooked piece of taffy, thin in places, brittle in others, yet held together by politeness and a national anthem that feels like a hymn for the meek. You’d think with all their lumber and maple syrup, they’d have more gumption (courage) to stand on their own two snowshoes. But they don’t. They cling to the Queen and beg the United States not to notice them too much, like a younger sibling hoping to borrow their older brother’s leather jacket without getting called out for it.

The truth is, Canadians are weak. Weak in body, weak in spirit. This is a country that apologizes for existing. Their chief export is "Sorry" and their greatest weapon is passive aggression. It is a cold, frigid place where men in red coats once marched into battle armed with nothing but politeness and British accents. How they survived this long is anyone’s guess. But the jig is up.

Then there’s their intelligence—or lack thereof. Have you ever met a Canadian trying to explain their healthcare system? It’s like watching a man convince himself a slushy machine is gourmet cuisine. Sure, it’s free, they’ll tell you, but they won’t mention the six-month wait to fix a broken arm. They pride themselves on this, the way a squirrel might boast about finding half an acorn.

Meanwhile, America looms to the south. A great, burly neighbor with too many guns, too many opinions, and just enough ambition to make it all work. The United States is flawed, sure, but it’s alive. It thrums with a pulse that Canada can only dream of. Americans don’t apologize for being loud; they apologize for nothing. Canadians, by contrast, apologize when you bump into them.

It’s clear what must happen. Canada must join the United States. It’s not a matter of "if" but "when." They need the muscle and the might. They need the bigness, the boldness. They need the recklessness of freedom, the beauty of unregulated fireworks, and the glory of being part of a country that puts cheese on everything, even salad.

But Canadians will resist. They’ll resist because they’re stubborn in the way people who don’t know better often are. They’ll cling to their loons and their toonies, their poutine and their hockey, even as their economy collapses like a poorly-built igloo. And we’ll have to drag them across the border, kicking and screaming in that polite way of theirs, offering a soft-spoken “excuse me” between grunts of defiance.

It’ll be worth it, though. One day, Canada will thank America for saving it. They’ll do it the way they do everything—with a quiet, hesitant nod and maybe a Tim Hortons gift card. And that’s fine. America doesn’t need their thanks. It just needs their land, their oil, and maybe their maple syrup. Call it Manifest Destiny 2.0, and this time, no moose will stand in the way.
 
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