I had a HH with a lady yesterday. We sat and talked on her couch, afterwards - her idea; But she knows I love to be with her. So, of course, she needn't twist my arm to stay. I paid her well over her asking rate - by more than double. You will get compensated for your time, just don't be so elitest and entitled about it. It is off-putting.
Seeing SP off the clock
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I think more often she won't be compensated, it's a good business for her to be clear and not ambiguous.
The friendliest and most down to earth escorts are often okay with off the clock social interactions with nice clients, but it could lead to him to thinking sex might be free down the road. Then the escort ends up being the bad person for saying no - all because she showed him kindness that was misinterpreted.
So it's often better to be firm with no off the clock meetings just because of one guy.
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It is sad but there are many guys who blur the lines because they are finally getting some female attention - even if they are paying for it. This occurs a lot with SC's where dancers are nice and talk to customers but soon the customer - unaccustomed to attention from a beautiful woman, brings gifts, tries to get dates outside the club... etc.
I suggest if a customer refuses to visit an SP because she will not entertain the possibility of a free dinner with him - good for the SP. You are saved from a guy whose is confusing reality with paid fantasy.
That's the thing - the sp and I separate sex and time spent together. If I want sex, it is understood that I am to compensate her as always. If it is non-sex related, she leaves it up to me. But, I always try to make sure I pay her extra. I don't always pay extra if she refuses to accept it, but when she allows me to, I give her as much as I have on me at that time. I think it all averages on in the long run - good for both of us.
Its not something we should aim for, plus she could see your wealth and just be scheming
a lot of factors, but when that shit is real you just know
As I see it, what happens off the clock is between the two involved. What is "free" for one client is at full charge for another, because of the relationship they have. I saw a wonderful lady for 4 years, shows, dinners, movies, my place for dinner, all off the clock, just as friends... problems arise though when back on the clock....and the client vs friend deals fall appart.....unless its all up front first.....
I totally agree with you about the sex time $ and the off time =.
There was an escort I was seeing and the last two times we encountered sexually she couldn't get me off.
No big deal, I would pay her.
Afterwards we would get prepared and go for dinner, off the clock and we enjoyed ourselves with food, wine and intellectual conversation.
And then we would head back to her place and talk for hours. We knew each other's personal lives.
We trusted each other! I enjoyed being with her.
Getting back to why I couldn't get off sexually - I have no clue, other than it not being genuine.
There was an escort I was seeing and the last two times we encountered sexually she couldn't get me off.
No big deal, I would pay her.
Afterwards we would get prepared and go for dinner, off the clock and we enjoyed ourselves with food, wine and intellectual conversation.
And then we would head back to her place and talk for hours. We knew each other's personal lives.
We trusted each other! I enjoyed being with her.
Getting back to why I couldn't get off sexually - I have no clue, other than it not being genuine.
I agree with M50.
It's too complicated to provide a template.
But SPs and clients are human and sometimes to the surprise of everyone involved an outside connection is made.
I've met some absolutely incredible women through this hobby and I've met two of them 'off the clock'.
One of them was an extension of our sessions where we would often spend hours chatting, drinking wine, and enjoying each other's company if there were no other appointments waiting. I wasn't the only person she did this with, but it still felt special and certainly kept me dedicated and loyal.
My most recent ATF was a roller coaster ride. We met 'off the clock' to the point that she didn't want me to pay to see her especially in the context of a client relationship. But this actually meant we saw each other less and frankly when we did meet, sex wasn't a requisite, it was just so wonderful to spend time together.
She's now started her new life and I wish her nothing but the best.
Don't know what the final answe is, but I would say that people connect in weird and wonderful ways, and there are no easy answers.
I don't see it any different than making friends at work. It happens but not with every woman I work with. Also doesn't mean I have sex with every woman I make friends with at work. 
Thank you, Bianca, for pointing out the obvious that was previously missed.
I knew someone else would understand what I was trying to say about blurring the lines and possible issues down the road...
I want to avoid that (issues, problems, unpleasant situations, etc.) at all cost so my boundaries are clear. Nothing more to it.
If a gentleman won't contact me because I am a companion who offers companionship and intimate time for a fee and because I am not an SP who simply offers straight up sexual services with free social time included, then so be it. Obviously, we are not compatible and I will not lose any sleep over it.
My business model has served me well over the years and I'm extremely satisfied with the quality of patrons I have the opportunity of spending time with.
In the end, my special circle of friends and I understand each other perfectly and that's what counts.
Oh dear gawd! Really?? lol
Where have I encountered this line of thinking before? Hummmm, wait, from the same people who are trying to criminalise you, the client aka the "johns" and the "pervs".
Gabriella, Ok I realise that obviously you have been out with clients off the clock or so judging by your comments.
My question to you is why you did to begin with?
My question to you is why you did to begin with?
I think that is the main issue with some gents..."they expect the SP to go off the clock" I agree with you Maggie50...yes friendship can occur but somewhere we have to draw a line!
Hey Bj
What I meant by my statement was, I cannot believe this woman has not shared some off the clock time with a certain gent,
that caught her fancy. In all of the time she has been in this business, not once, I doubt it.
Unless she is married or her sexual preference is not really men.
For all intents and purposes, she sounds very mechanical.
She seems very professional in keeping her personal life separate from her business, I don't see it as an indication of what she's like in bed.
