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Rogers Centre getting demolished....finally
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Ok, well than let the city and their taxpayers form their own league...if they want to join MLB they have to follow the rules the arrogant owners have set out...
Covid has shown the drawbacks of living in condos.
1. Its a petri dish.
2. Impossible to get an elevator while adhering to social distancing protocols. (Not so fun taking the stairs up 60 floors is it.)
3. Packed in like sardines.
4. All the famous "ammenities" which are sold part and parcel with any condo are closed, ergo you are trapped with nowhere to go.
Covid has proven to be a bit of a nightmare if you're living in a condo.
That is why you're seeing a lot of action in home sales now where people have soured on living in a rabbit hutch in a 60 storey box
Wow - I remember such good times at that stadium! It was shit but loads of funQuoted for the truth.
Rogers are full of shit and anyone with half a brain will see right though this ploy.
All Rogers wants is demolish skydome and build condos and rake in the money. Simple as that. The location of skydome is THEE best real estate in Toronto. If anyone thinks that Rogers / Brookfield will build a really great stadium out of some sense of altruism for the good citizens of Toronto, please give your collective heads a shake. Rogers will build a piece of shit cheap-assed stadium. As cheap as it gets. I read a post above where it was mentioned building down by the waterfront. (Ontario Place comes to mind right away.) Puhleaze. We built skydome in 89 because the old CNE stadium was a piece of shit and the wind off the lake used to HOWL through the joint. I'm old enough to remember it SNOWING during regular season Jays' games. It was TERRIBLE. Listen, in Toronto, we have maybe 2.5 to 3 decent months of weather to watch a ball game outside. Half of June and half of September plus July and August. Maybe. That fact has not changed. People's memories sure do grow dusty with time, or they weren't around to remember it.
Since Rogers has owned the Blue Jays, it's been all about cost cutting and the result is obvious from top to bottom in the organization and on the field. Any new stadium will be exactly the same. Cheap, cheap cheap.
The skydome is a great facility in a great location, close to the subway, close to the GO lines, close to Union Station, close to hotels, right downtown. There is no other better location.
Skydome is 30 years old and was built as a multi-use sports facility with both baseball and football in mind. Now that it's exclusively baseball, renovate it to have better sight lines, change out any problematic issues inside, etc.
There is no reason that this can't be a great ball park. None.
And to those who say it's a terrible place to see a concert, well, that depends. If the roof it open, it is no worse than any other large outdoor stadium. In some ways it's better because it's not so huge. The problem with seeing a concert at skydome occurs when the roof is closed because the sound waves stream out, follow the stands, then bounce of the roof structure. The result is destructive interference to the sound waves. In short, the sound moves away from the source, hits the roof, then bounces back creating a mess as the waves travelling in opposite directions crash into each other. With the roof closed, you need to be either as close as possible to sound source, or literally at the roof line. Anywhere in the middle is just a muddle of sound. I saw the U2 360 show there (twice) and both instances the lid was open and the sound was great. (You need a very powerful sound system in a large venue.) I also saw Roger Waters' second Wall Concert series there with the lid closed and was on the floor and the sound was great. But I saw the Stones there with the lid closed and was in the middle of the bowl and the sound was awful. But concerts can work there quite easily if the roof is open,
Skydome itself is only 30 years old. Nowhere near the end of its life span. It can easily be made into a remarkable baseball park but that will take money and Rogers will not spend a dime on that. All Rogers wants is to redevlope the property to build more bullshit ugly box condos that the City of Toronto is already allowing to destroy the streetscape of this great city. Don't be fooled and don't let them.
And lastly, the land is owned by the City of Toronto. (It was previously owned by the Grand Trunk Railway which was folded into CN Rail when Wilfred Laurier merged several bankrupt railways into the federal Crown Corporation Canadian National Railways and was previously known as "the railway lands" and parts were sold to the City back in the 80's after being a huge issue for a decade or more. Rogers will need to buy that land. What's ironic is way back in the 1800's, that land was given to the railways as an enticement to build railway infrastructure not into Toronto, but all across Canada. Then the railways pull up stock and sell the land for a huge a profit. There are those who believe that when the railways walk away, the land should revert back to the crown. That did not happen in downtown to Toronto.
Here's a little walk down memory lane.
. Used to climb that wall to the left of the original football stands (where the stairs were) and watch the Jays practice when they first arrived. Many a snowy football game, some GREAT concerts!
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l call them “a coffin in the sky” - I have not lived in an apartment / condo in 30 years even then I was only 7th floor. I cannot fathom what the attraction is but to each their own. Even when I travel - I always ask at Hotels for the lowest floor possible - why the F do I want to sit in an elevator.
Due to the roof being pelted by ice shards from the CN Tower, the roof has been retrofitted several times. Each time, the cost has gone up, the last in 2017 cost $10.7 million.
yup, but they sort of did repair jobs. They're saying it keeps getting worse and worse so they just have to replace the whole thing.
New Stadium idea is dead:
venuesnow.com
Blue Jays decide to upgrade Rogers Centre - VenuesNow
Rogers Centre, shown here on Aug. 21, 2021 for the Detroit Tigers-Toronto Blue Jays game, will be renovated at a cost of $200 million to $250 million, sources
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Lol. I was at that show too! Where were you sitting?Interesting news indeed, not surprised though. Like BBL said - awful stadium for everything, saw a lot of concerts there and always wondered why the sound was awful. Nothing beats Maple Leaf Gardens, maybe because it was a different time and the fact that I saw my first concert there, Thunder Seven Tour by Triump - amazing venue, amazing sound and amazing smells....
(Think it was also my first concert. Agree about the smells. Weed back in those days smelled so sweeter than today’s skunky stuff). MLG was a great place to see a show no doubt.
That's great news!New Stadium idea is dead:
Blue Jays decide to upgrade Rogers Centre - VenuesNow
Rogers Centre, shown here on Aug. 21, 2021 for the Detroit Tigers-Toronto Blue Jays game, will be renovated at a cost of $200 million to $250 million, sources
I guess Jays' ownership didn't con the government into giving them enough money or permission to sell the current site for condos and offices and then be given a chunk of free land elsewhere in the downtown-adjacent core.
A new stadium isn't off the table. It's going to take longer then they can wait, and they want to have Rogers Centre upgraded for the current team as they feel they'll be right in the thick of it over the next 4 years.
Vlady is going to want to play on artificial turf forever.
The Calgary Flames have pulled out of the deal with the city over a new hockey arena. The cost of construction has risen by over $150 million, the initial estimate was way too low. The Flames want the same sweetheart deal Daryl Katz got, he paid $132 million for Rogers Place while the city forked over $485 million.
The Calgary Flames have pulled out of the deal with the city over a new hockey arena. The cost of construction has risen by over $150 million, the initial estimate was way too low. The Flames want the same sweetheart deal Daryl Katz got, he paid $132 million for Rogers Place while the city forked over $485 million.
