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George The Curious

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Really? Are you asking that? You have had how many STD's now? How many do you have that not curable? How many times are we going to read about you wanting to have sex with a woman with herpes or chicks from the STD clinic? And I am assuming too much? Seriously? Don't make me laugh to hard here hon, I can't handle it.

YOU have posted your life of STD woes. It is all there for others to read and many made the same conclusions I have. I don't believe you tell or have told all your partners. Sorry, I don't. But even I will admit that belief does not matter because I ain't fucking ya, now am I?

I believe that you have a complete disregard to sexual safety. Why? Because of what you have posted in the past. It really is that simply. You carry STD's, you ask advice about having sex with others who have STD's. These are your words. Not mine. Sorry man, maybe you shouldn't reveal those types of things on a board like this if you don't want people to remember it, come to their own conclusions about it and then post them back to you.

Just some food for thought mate. However, I am done posting this crap with you to be honest. This is a thread about Robin Williams, not you or me.

Laters
Congrats on completely changing the topic of this thread into my personal attack about my medical condition, by using STD taboos. How classy. Just for the record, I never tried picking up anyone at STD clinic, it was just a thought, to see if anyone here tried. Just for entertainment.

Since this is anonymous board, people should feel open to share whatever on their mind, including STD status, to seek treatment advise, experiences etc. Not to be ridiculed and attacked, and you have the nerve to suggest I shouldn't reveal such thing, and keep it private to maintain some kind of cyber- reputation? keep an appearance that this hobby is somehow SAFE?
Again congrats on changing the topic. I don't know how discussion Robin's suicide have anything to do with my STD status, letting it become judgement of my character. If there is any injustice left in this world - after racism, sexism, is the taboo and phobia against someone with herpes, and judgement that they and they alone are at fault for their medical condition. and deserve to be ridiculed and attacked. and anything they say you happen to disagree can be disregarded because they have STD.

Nice try to save your own ass on your last sentence, as it is you who brought up completely irrelevant my STD status, somehow thinking it would be put me to "shame", and discredit me.
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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Again, I am not continuing this you. This thread is not about you or me. I have expressed my opinion, you have as well. We can disagree and have no respect for each other in another thread. I am cool with that. Thanks

It seems you are all too familiar with this subject and it's handling requires sensitivity training.
You take the subject matter on a personal level.
Perhaps you suffer from bipolar?
Or you know of people who have suffered depression?
I am not trying to out you on this board. I am just trying to understand your personal viewpoint on the subject of mental illness.
I don't know why it would matter, but yes I am clearly familiar with bipolar. With many people in many different aspects from personal life, to volunteer work at distress centers/cirsis inve, to awareness conventions/submits, student awareness campaigns, and even in giving grants to special people who make a difference in the mental health community by bring awareness of these issues to the world. One grant being named after a family member for their dedication to the mental health when they were alive. Plus more involvement in other ways. Too much to list. To many areas of mental illness as well. Not just bipolar or depression.

To be honest, I wish personally people would actually address his real issue. He was bipolar. So while that includes forms of depression, it is much more then that and that is something that even those who suffer with depression can sometimes not understand. {and vise versa, I might add} A person with depression can take an anti-depressant medication for example while it could be detrimental for someone with bipolar as it can shoot them right into a manic phase. Treatments, causes, coping techniques, symptoms and side affects are different from those suffering depression. The chemical imbalance that those with bipolar have vrs those with chronic depression vrs those with life triggering depression. It is all different for everyone. While one may find ways to medicate, therapy and cope, others with the same treatment may not be as successful because their illness is different even though it is all battle with depression.

Anyway, I have said my piece in this thread. Between here, the news and other forums I am on, I can only handle so much. So much ignorance, misconception, down right rude and disrespectful commentary. While people are entitle to an opinion, I just wish it was an informed one. This crap of suicide is selfish, the idea that suicide is the easy way - it is wrong on so many levels but I just have to remember what I tell others. Lack of education just means there is room to educate. TERB is probably not the place, but what can I say, this is a death that hits close to home. My bad for bring the personals to the forums.

I hope that all came across the way I meant, because I mean you no disrespect big104u.

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GameBoy27

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His wife said he was also suffering from the early stages of Parkinson's disease.
 

Insidious Von

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I've dodged the std bullet so far, fingers crossed. However I did have a cyst removed from my neck, I'm relieved to report that I've been told it's benign. Good thing to, I'm not in a hurry to find out if Michael Douglas is actually correct.

As for Robin Williams, his daughter has revealed that he was in the early stages of Parkinson's. For a manic-depressive that is a real bacetata (hit to the head), no way he could have endured that.

 

GPIDEAL

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Someone in my office showed me a post-mortem photo he got on his Iphone of Robin Williams (still with belt around his neck).

I can't believe what perhaps is a forensic photo, has gone viral? (It didn't look fake to me).

Someone mentioned Parkinsons.

I know of a wealthy developer who took his life (he was in his 70s) because he was afflicted with Alzheimer's.

He also suffered from depression, and hung himself when his nurse wasn't looking (so the story goes).

Hopefully, these deaths will make people consider donating to the charities that support research into mental illness.
 

GameBoy27

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This is a very sad story but certainly sheds some light on what he was going through... Mus have been horrible living with that. They say he was weeks away from being admitted to a treatment facility, one he may not have left. LBD likely would have killed him in a few years.

If RW could speak about his death, I bet he'd say he checked out while he still had half a brain.

Robin Williams' widow speaks: Depression didn't kill my husband.

(CNN) Comedian Robin Williams' widow, Susan Williams, said she and her husband "were living a nightmare" in the months leading up to his death.

"My best friend was sinking," an emotional Williams told ABC's Amy Robach in an interview that aired Tuesday, her first since Robin Williams killed himself in August 2014.

Williams said she's spent the last year trying to get to the bottom of what led him to take his own life. Contrary to what most people think, she said, it wasn't depression, nor was it a re-emergence of his longtime struggles with alcohol and drug addiction.

Robin Williams had no alcohol or illegal drugs in his system; he'd been sober for eight years, his wife said.

What drove her husband to suicide, "was what was going on in his brain," Williams said.

'Chemical warfare'

That "chemical warfare" that doctors conducting Robin Williams' autopsy discovered was Lewy body dementia.

LBD is caused when normal proteins in the brain begin to aggregate, forming clumps called Lewy bodies that, as they spread, "muck up the ability for the brain to transmit signals," said Cleveland Clinic neurologist Dr. James Leverenz.

Like Alzheimer's disease, symptoms of LBD include cognitive problems like confusion, reduced attention span, and memory loss, Taylor said.

Though not nearly as well known (or talked about) as Alzheimer's disease, which accounts for more than half of dementia diagnoses in the United States, Lewy body dementia, or LBD, is the second most common type of progressive dementia.

Nearly 1.4 million Americans are known to have the disease, but because it's a relatively "young disorder," Angela Taylor, director of programming for the Lewy Body Dementia Association said, that number is likely much higher.

But LBD also affects a patient's movements, as well as their mood, making it a "triple threat," Taylor said.

"It's not just memory, it's not just movement, and it's not just behavior. It's a combination of all three, which makes it difficult to diagnose and difficult to treat," Leverenz said.

'Endless parade of symptoms'

Susan Williams recalls thinking her husband was a hypochondriac, when, starting in November 2013, every month he seemed to complain about a different ailment.

Like a game of "whack-a-mole," Robin Williams was wrought with a severe pain in his gut, sleeplessness and constipation, she said.

After months of heightened anxiety and paranoia about his health, Susan Williams said, Robin Williams felt a small "sense of relief" when he was diagnosed with early onset Parkinson's disease in May 2014.

While Parkinson's disease, which like Alzheimer's has no cure, is hardly good news, Susan Williams said it was nice to have a possible answer for her husband's seemingly "endless parade of symptoms."

Parkinson's, a nervous system disorder that affects movement, could be blamed for the tremor in Robin Williams' left hand, but Susan Williams said it didn't explain everything.

'I miscalculated'

Susan Williams breaks down as she remembers what she witnessed on July 24, 2014, just months after Robin Williams was diagnosed with Parkinson's.

She was in the shower when she noticed her husband lingering by the sink. She opened the door to find him holding a bloodied towel, a severe gash on his head.

"Robin, what happened?" she screamed.

She said he motioned toward the door, and said just two words, "I miscalculated."

Though she didn't know it then, Susan Williams said LBD had affected his vision and his ability to recognize and identify objects, like the door.

Susan Williams said despite his diagnosis, her husband of three years was happy.

"Lewy body dementia killed Robin," she told Robach.

Changing capacity to do things

As Lewy bodies form and take over different parts of the brain affecting body movement, mind and mood, patients suffering from LBD experience symptoms of a person with both Alzheimer's and Parkinson's, conditions that alone are devastating.

Because Robin Williams was a very active and very successful person, it's understandable that he would have grown depressed about his "changing capacity to do things he used to do," Leverenz said.

Susan Williams said she believes her husband was losing his mind, and "he was aware of it."

His decision to use a belt to hang himself from his bedroom door was, in Susan Williams' opinion, his way of taking his power back, a painful choice for which she immediately forgave him.

After emergency responders realized they couldn't revive him, Susan Williams got to see him.

"And I got to tell him, 'I forgive you 50 billion percent, with all my heart. You're the bravest man I've ever known.'"

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/03/health/robin-williams-widow-susan-williams/
 

GPIDEAL

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Gameboy,

A close friend of mine's dad had Lewy Bodies Dementia (this was year's ago). My dad had Alzheimer's but lived much longer than my friend's dad who had what supposedly Robin Williams had.

Thanks for posting that.
 

GameBoy27

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Gameboy,

A close friend of mine's dad had Lewy Bodies Dementia (this was year's ago). My dad had Alzheimer's but lived much longer than my friend's dad who had what supposedly Robin Williams had.

Thanks for posting that.
Sorry for your loss GP. Alzheimer's is something I don't wish upon anyone. Such a horrible thing for family members to watch a loved one go through.
 

GPIDEAL

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Sorry for your loss GP. Alzheimer's is something I don't wish upon anyone. Such a horrible thing for family members to watch a loved one go through.
Thank you.

In the end, it was infection and compromised immune system I suppose that got my dad. Although he was a much more subdued character with Alzheimer's (normally, a domineering business type who loved the outdoors on weekends), he wasn't a vegetable. He was more stoic if you will.

My friend's dad was worse though.
 

Smallcock

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Suicide should always be an option for people. You won't hear people calling Williamson a coward for taking his own life like they would if if he were not a celebrity, but celebrity status or not, suicide is a viable option in cases like this. Go out strong rather than live your finals days as a vegetable.
 

IM469

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Sorry for your loss GP. Alzheimer's is something I don't wish upon anyone. Such a horrible thing for family members to watch a loved one go through.
Which is why I would want to check out before my friends, family and life have left my brain. I don't want the last recollection of my family is a drooling guy in diapers who has no awareness of his surroundings.
 

james t kirk

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Call me the conspiracy theorist, but I'm not so sure I believe his wife.

I'd believe his doctor though. But his wife, I'm skeptical.
 

AK-47

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Call me the conspiracy theorist, but I'm not so sure I believe his wife.

I'd believe his doctor though. But his wife, I'm skeptical
You disbelieve his wife on what??
 

SkyRider

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Michael J. Fox and Mohammed Ali have been living with Parkinson's for decades.

Question: Does life insurance pay for suicide?
 
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