Right-wing terrorism vs. Islamic terrorism - which one is the greater global threat??

shack

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Shazi, the report references the UN reports that clearly blame Israel for the likely 186,000 killed.
You still haven't come up with the quote from the study that says Israel is to blame for 186,000 deaths. Until then, you are lying.

At least you are consistent in making claims that you cannot back up.

You still haven't come up with the resolution from the UN saying that Israel is committing genocide. Until then, you are lying.

You still haven't come up with the resolution from the UN saying that Israel is committing apartheid. Until then, you are lying.
 
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shack

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This is a moronic line of argument, shazi.
Actually, it is moronic to claim that the report says Israel is to blame for 186,000 deaths when the report does not say that at all. If it did you would have provided the quote.

Keep lying, Geno, and your lies will continue to be exposed and you will continue to look foolish.

My line of argument is so moronic that you can't counter it.
 

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Actually, it is moronic to claim that the report says Israel is to blame for 186,000 deaths when the report does not say that at all. If it did you would have provided the quote.

Keep lying, Geno, and your lies will continue to be exposed and you will continue to look foolish.

My line of argument is so moronic that you can't counter it.
Its idiotic, Shazi.

The interim measures set out by the International Court of Justice in January, 2024, require Israel to “take effective measures to prevent the destruction and ensure the preservation of evidence related to allegations of acts within the scope of … the Genocide Convention”.11

That line refers to the ICJ Provisional Measures ordering Israel to not commit genocide, prevent killing Palestinians and arrest those who incite genocide, as you do. The Lancet letter clearly refers to the ICJ charges accusing Israel of genocide.

Your argument is moronic.

A message from one of the hostages that Netanyahu bombed to death.
 

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You still haven't come up with the quote from the study that says Israel is to blame for 186,000 deaths. Until then, you are lying.

At least you are consistent in making claims that you cannot back up.

You still haven't come up with the resolution from the UN saying that Israel is committing genocide. Until then, you are lying.

You still haven't come up with the resolution from the UN saying that Israel is committing apartheid. Until then, you are lying.
You think it was Brazil that dropped 3 Hiroshima's worth of bombs?
Maybe it was India or Switzerland that did it?

Or are you really going to argue that Hamas has infiltrated the IDF and are flying the jets that drop the bombs on Gaza?
Its an incredibly moronic argument, Shazi.

 

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I dont deny there's a problem with extreme right-wing and terror, but it doesnt change the point I made in my previous post, which is muslims only comprise 1.34% of US population, and per capita they commit far more terror than any other group.

If you look at Western Europe muslims make up between 3-5% and thats when they start to become dangerous.
Case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism_in_Europe
Terrorism is an abomination, regardless of who does it. Targeting innocent people with bombs or bullets is horrific. The motivation is usually the bastardization of religion or political views. The one interesting point about islamic terror is that frequently the victims tend to be other muslims (i.e., Shia going after Shiite or vice versa). It is very similar to what happened in Ireland during the Troubles. Catholic killing protestant....for basically a similar religion. And a lot of people got caught in the crossfire.

All that being said...Islamic terror is also right-wing terror. They are the definition of conservative, wanting to keep things the same and not allowing the modern world to change...
 
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All that being said...Islamic terror is also right-wing terror. They are the definition of conservative, wanting to keep things the same and not allowing the modern world to change...
Disagree with that.
Majority of muslims vote Democrat and radical muslims hate George Bush for starting the Iraq and afghan wars, and they hate Trump also
 

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Yes, what Hamas did was unacceptable after they took those hostages and killed over 1000 others. it was also shocking that the Israeli army was slow to respond to counter those Hamas invaders. But all I was trying to say is that if Hamas kept those hostages in Israeli Hospitals then Netanyahu's plan to free them would not be as stark as what the IDF did to the Gaza Hospitals and residences!!
Again, you've lost me. Why would Hamas take their hostages to Israeli hospitals?


I have watched several foreign media coverages of the bombings of residences in Gaza...
Did you miss the stuff at the start of that paragraph clearly indicating I was addressing your comments about the West Bank?
 

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Remember that Hamas accepted a ceasefire deal in July. Hamas had agreed to it. But Netanyahu maintained his stance that he wanted Hamas to be eliminated.

Did you not actually read what the article said? Nowhere does it even hint Hamas offered a ceasefire.

The reality was that Hamas rejected several ceasefires including the one the UNSC demanded.

Each of these stories are about different Hamas rejections:
 

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If Qatar media puts women and children at 60% it probably means it’s 30% at most. United Nations claim that typically in modern wars it’s 9:1 ratio ie 90% of victims are civilians.
https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm
And IDF in gaza has the worst density plus tunnels to deal with.
So it seems IDF is very careful with civilians. I have heard a lot of whining but zero evidence that IDF behaves materially worse than any other army in any recent war.
On the other side,
Hamas refuses to even let fighters families publicly mourn so they can continue pretending all of the dead are civilians.
 
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Again, you've lost me. Why would Hamas take their hostages to Israeli hospitals?

Well, once again I am only using a hypothetical situation if Hamas had taken over all those attendees and held them as hostage in an Israeli Hospital or Stadium then no doubt the IDF would have been far more cautious in how they tried to free those hostages, unlike what they did with practically flattening the infrastructure in Gaza with the killings of that many women and children.

Did you miss the stuff at the start of that paragraph clearly indicating I was addressing your comments about the West Bank?
We were discussing both Gaza and the West Bank.
 
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