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The defense doesn't need to prove she consented, the Crown has to prove that she didn't consent to the acts. Her testimony isn't enough.
The Crown should have never pursued this case given the evidence that they had.
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Her testimony is that she didn't consent and the Crown has presented that as evidence...the evidence against the players is overwhelming

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Canada has a broad definition of sexual assault. It includes all unwanted sexual activity, such as unwanted sexual grabbing, kissing, and fondling as well as rape. Sexual activity is only legal when both parties consent. Consent is defined in Canada’s Criminal Code in s. 273.1(1), as the...
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You're assuming things that aren't facts.


Maybe she was crying because she wanted to leave and the players wanted her to continue
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Dude you're assuming things more than anyone. I believe that my assumption is logical. People do things they regret when they are drunk. God knows I have. Its human nature.
 
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Her testimony is that she didn't consent and the Crown has presented that as evidence...the evidence against the players is overwhelming

The Law of Consent in Sexual Assault - LEAF

Canada has a broad definition of sexual assault. It includes all unwanted sexual activity, such as unwanted sexual grabbing, kissing, and fondling as well as rape. Sexual activity is only legal when both parties consent. Consent is defined in Canada’s Criminal Code in s. 273.1(1), as the...
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Besides her testimony what other evidence is there that makes it 'overwhelming'?
 
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You made your mind up about this case even before she testified. You're a #metoo disciple.
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I did because I know this stuff happens...this was worse than I thought and the various cover ups just make me think they know they've gor a problem and went too far.
 
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Besides her testimony what other evidence is there that makes it 'overwhelming'?
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She was there alone...she wasn't able to orchestrate a cover up like the players did...I thought her testimony was powerful.

Read the law...

The Law of Consent in Sexual Assault - LEAF

Canada has a broad definition of sexual assault. It includes all unwanted sexual activity, such as unwanted sexual grabbing, kissing, and fondling as well as rape. Sexual activity is only legal when both parties consent. Consent is defined in Canada’s Criminal Code in s. 273.1(1), as the...
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I did because I know this stuff happens...this was worse than I thought and the various cover ups just make me think they know they've gor a problem and went too far.
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So was Johnny Depp guilty of Amber Heard's accusations because "this stuff happens"?
 
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So was Johnny Depp guilty of Amber Heard's accusations because "this stuff happens"?
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I didn't follow that case, don't know.

But the girl that Mike Tyson was convicted of rape for never said No and just went along with it, same with Kobe Bryant...they felt the safest way was to submit, one guy was the toughest guy in the world and the other was 6"10...in this case there was 10 guys in the room...they submitted because it was the safest way out of it.
 
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But the girl that Mike Tyson was convicted of rape for never said No and just went along with it, same with Kobe Bryant...they felt the safest way was to submit, one guy was the toughest guy in the world and the other was 6"10...in this case there was 10 guys in the room...they submitted because it was the safest way out of it.
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You don't know any of that for a fact, there are just as many women who would be good with it.
 
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Don't forget naive, after all she did go to a stranger's room to fuck him while she had a boyfriend.
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There's no crime in going to a strangers room to fuck him when she has a boyfriend. The crime started when McLeod texted all the players to come for a three-way without asking her if it was ok and then the evening went downhill.
 
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You don't know any of that for a fact, there are just as many women who would be good with it.
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I do know that...it's called testimonal evidence introduced at trial, Kobe admitted it and Tyson is just a bully to think he wasn't privileged.
 
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There's no crime in going to a strangers room to fuck him when she has a boyfriend. The crime started when McLeod texted all the players to come for a three-way without asking her if it was ok and then the evening went downhill.
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There's no crime in inviting friends over for some sex with some random bar fly, only if you proceed against her will.
No proof of that.
No proof that they forced her to stay.

Maybe that's why she never pressed charges, maybe that's why she texted her friend saying how her mom was making a big deal out of it, maybe that's why she initially said it was all her fault,
maybe that's why she refused a blood test for drugs
 
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