R.I.P George Armstrong

[shack]

. Rocket Richard, Gordie Howe, Jean Beliveau and others never scored 50 plus goals in an NHL season.

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You are SO clued out. The Rocket was the very 1st one to score 50 in a season and he did it in 50 games. For a guy who purports to be a "knowledgeable" poster (as you've referred to yourself many times) how could you possible not know that? It is one of the all-time most famous milestones in hockey history. And he was the only one to do 50 in 50 until #99, probably around 40 years later.

Maybe darts never followed the Habs or their history.

 

[bemeup]

I was a kid during the latter stages of Armstrong’s playing days, but I remember my Mom remarking on how handsome a man The Chief was. The above picture proves it:

 

[unassuming]

I had a crush on Trudy Young...........

Every red blooded Canadian boy did also!

...."Alphabet Soup"

 

[gcostanza]

Rocket Richard.... never scored 50 plus goals in an NHL season.

Fascinating.

 

[Fun For All]

You're trying to reason with one of the "usual suspects" which is a slippery slope but thanks for trying anyway.

Bernie Nicholls once scored 70 goals (150 points) in a season and is not even in the HHOF. Rocket Richard, Gordie Howe, Jean Beliveau and others never scored 50 plus goals in an NHL season.

Bernie Nicholls - Wikipedia

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If Bernie Nicholls played for the Montreal Canadiens he'd be in the HOF...

 

[The Oracle]

You are SO clued out. The Rocket was the very 1st one to score 50 in a season and he did it in 50 games. For a guy who purports to be a "knowledgeable" poster (as you've referred to yourself many times) how could you possible not know that? It is one of the all-time most famous milestones in hockey history. And he was the only one to do 50 in 50 until #99, probably around 40 years later.

Maybe darts never followed the Habs or their history.

Did Cam Neely also get 50 in 50?.......

 

[The Oracle]

Not really. Before the 1967 expansion there had been a total of five 50 goal seasons: Rocket Richard in 44-45, Bernie Geoffrion in 60-61 and Bobby Hull 3 times (61-62, 65-66 and 66-67.)

Since expansion there have been 191 50 goal seasons, although there have been fewer over the last 20 seasons. It was the 70's, 80's and 90's when scoring really went crazy.

Yes of course.......But the usual suspect on here won't admit he was wrong in his criticism.

Vic Hadfield, Danny Grant and Mickey Redmond are more early examples of players who benefited from expansion.

 

[The Oracle]

You're trying to reason with one of the "usual suspects" which is a slippery slope but thanks for trying anyway.

Bernie Nicholls once scored 70 goals (150 points) in a season and is not even in the HHOF. Rocket Richard, Gordie Howe, Jean Beliveau and others never scored 50 plus goals in an NHL season.

Bernie Nicholls - Wikipedia

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You should have substituted Frank Mahovlich for the Rocket there Darts.

Richard became the litmus test for goal scorers with his 50 in 50.

I should have caught this last night but didn't.

 

[gcostanza]

Not really. Before the 1967 expansion there had been a total of five 50 goal seasons: Rocket Richard in 44-45, Bernie Geoffrion in 60-61 and Bobby Hull 3 times (61-62, 65-66 and 66-67.)

Since expansion there have been 191 50 goal seasons, although there have been fewer over the last 20 seasons. It was the 70's, 80's and 90's when scoring really went crazy.

Trusting that your numbers are accurate (no reason to believe they're not)....
Since expansion from the Original Six, there have been 53 seasons played (if my numbers are correct), but we'll say 51, since there was a strike shortened season, and a Covid-19 shortened season.
There have been 1255 Team Years of NHL hockey played (I included the shortened seasons in this total).

The skaters roster (not including goaltenders) has been stable at 18 during all this time, unless I missed something.
1255 x 18 skaters = 22,590 skaters who have had an opportunity to score 50 or more goals in a season.
The mark has been hit 191 times.
By how many players?
93.
19 players account for 99 of those 191 seasons.


191 total 50 goal seasons / 93 players out of 22,590 possible players, that number is .00846

Regularly?

No.

*All numbers subject to correction*

List of NHL players with 50-goal seasons - Wikipedia

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[shack]

Did Cam Neely also get 50 in 50?.......

Had to look it up and he actually got 50 in 49 games. '93/'94

 

[glamphotographer]

RIP Chief.

 

[The Oracle]

Had to look it up and he actually got 50 in 49 games. '93/'94

Fing Ulf Samuleson cut short a brilliant career........

 

[Darts]

You should have substituted Frank Mahovlich for the Rocket there Darts.

Richard became the litmus test for goal scorers with his 50 in 50.

I should have caught this last night but didn't.

Actually, I said 50 plus. I added the plus to indicate more than 50. The Rocket never scored more than 50 goals in a season. The Rocket and Boom Boom scored exactly 50 but not more.

The only pre-expansion player to score more than 50 goals in a season is Bobby Hull.

 

[Darts]

Vic Hadfield, Danny Grant and Mickey Redmond are more early examples of players who benefited from expansion.

Expansion diluted the talent pool so less elite players were able to hit the 50 or 50 plus level. Shoot, Gordie Howe would have scored 93 goals in a season in the post expansion era.

 

[Darts]

Not really. Before the 1967 expansion there had been a total of five 50 goal seasons: Rocket Richard in 44-45, Bernie Geoffrion in 60-61 and Bobby Hull 3 times (61-62, 65-66 and 66-67.)

Of the three, only Bobby Hull scored more than 50 in a single season. He did it twice. Yes, I intentionally set the bar a tiny bit higher by saying 50 plus.

Think of all the great players in the pre-expansion era who put on a jockstrap and one and only one ever scored more than 50 goals in a single season. How rare is that?

 

[shack]

Of the three, only Bobby Hull scored more than 50 in a single season. He did it twice. Yes, I intentionally set the bar a tiny bit higher by saying 50 plus.

Think of all the great players in the pre-expansion era who put on a jockstrap and one and only one ever scored more than 50 goals in a single season. How rare is that?
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So scoring 50 is no big deal but once you hit 51 that's when they are significant? By the way Hull needed a lot more games to break 50 goals than the Rocket's 50 games. Maybe he needs an asterisk, like Maris. It took approx another 40 years for anybody to break the Rocket's feat in '81/'82 (Bossy tied it the year before). And it took Gretzky, the most prolific scorer ever to do it. Rocket's 50 in 50 was probably the greatest scoring year in history until Phil got 76. Even then I don't think he got 50 in 50.

 

[The Oracle]

So scoring 50 is no big deal but once you hit 51 that's when they are significant? By the way Hull needed a lot more games to break 50 goals than the Rocket's 50 games. Maybe he needs an asterisk, like Maris. It took approx another 40 years for anybody to break the Rocket's feat in '81/'82 (Bossy tied it the year before). And it took Gretzky, the most prolific scorer ever to do it. Rocket's 50 in 50 was probably the greatest scoring year in history until Phil got 76. Even then I don't think he got 50 in 50.

Some interesting history here Eddie.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_goals_in_50_games

 

[shack]

Some interesting history here Eddie.....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_goals_in_50_games

I think that's the one I read before posting. Thanks anyways.

 

[Darts]

The Rocket's 50 in 50 is quite controversial. He did it when all the best Anglophone players were fighting facists in Europe and Asia. When those players returned after the war, the Rocket never scored 50 goals again.

Anyway, my point is that goals were harder to come by in the pre-expansion era where Armstrong spent 17 of his 21 years. Besides, he brought other qualities to the team as another poster pointed out.

 

[Darts]

How about this one? Joe Malone scored 44 goals in 20 games. Some people argued that he did it in a war year when many of the best players were in the military serving their country.

Joe Malone - Wikipedia

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