Psychiatrist referral

[petitelover]

I gotta go with Hank on this one. You can't fix someone else's problems and sometimes a person has to hit their bottom before they can see that the only way to go is up.

You CAN do this with compassion, you don't have to be cruel. No one said anything about stepping on broken wings, I believe the nugget of Hank's post was "accountibility for one's own life". Only they can fix themselves and if she is reluctant to talk to her GP then she is her own worst problem.

That much said if she WAS to take steps to fix her life you could easily be a supportive and compassionate person in it. But be forewarned that if you play "the supportive guy that gets her thru the rough times", once she is all "better" you will be dropped like a hot potato since you will remind her of her former life. This typically happens with a "purge" of one's old life.

Just telling it the way it is, not the way you wish it could be. Point her in the direction of CAMH and let the professionals do their job that way you can be sure you are not being "played".

I recognize one has to fix his/her own problems but having the tools at her disposal to make the right choice might be helpful -- that is all I was trying to accomplish. Being from the States puts me at a disadvantage as to how to obtain names for her. Thanks for several PM's and posts here I have the information to give her and as I said if she says no or makes up an excuse then so be it.

As for Hank - he is immature, selfish and rude. Even if he had a point, he couldn't argue it without vituperation which tells me he lacks formal education and any sense of couth.

 

[petitelover]

She'll probably end up sleeping with the shrink...

LOL - you never know but I think her rates might be higher than the shrinks!

 

[Hank Reardon]

Over my years of hobbying, I befriended several SP's. One is in terrible shape. In her mind, life is crumbling around her. Other than trying to give her good advice, I am not any type of medical professional or counselor and feel she is in need of some professional help. She desperately wants to get out of the biz but has deep emotional and self worth issues. Can anyone refer a licensed counselor or Psychiatrist that could help her? I think she would prefer a woman and since she does not have a car, on a bus or subway route is a must. Sappy PL will probably foot the bill for her so no need for OHIP. Post or PM if you wish. Thanks.

See, the thing that bugs me the most about you is how much of a bs'er you are. Now most here have been fooled by you and you ''altruism'', which I put in quotes because we both know the truth-don't we ?

 

[petitelover]

See, the thing that bugs me the most about you is how much of a bs'er you are. Now most here have been fooled by you and you ''altruism'', which I put in quotes because we both know the truth-don't we ?

Bs'er? First you accuse me of being an enabler and now saying I am not telling the truth. Which is it? In case your small mind doesn't grasp the concept, Sheik and the mods don't give people extra "points" if they show compassion for humanity or if they are narcissistic like you.

Many people don't know each other in "real" life on this Board so I have nothing to gain by not being truthful. In any event, this discussion is off topic and I will not respond further to your reckless allegations. However, I would like to respectfully suggest you try to become a human being. I know it will be difficult for you but you might grow up and mature one of these days. On the other hand, some people are destined to be imbeciles.

 

[LKD]

Over my years of hobbying, I befriended several SP's. One is in terrible shape. In her mind, life is crumbling around her. Other than trying to give her good advice, I am not any type of medical professional or counselor and feel she is in need of some professional help. She desperately wants to get out of the biz but has deep emotional and self worth issues. Can anyone refer a licensed counselor or Psychiatrist that could help her? I think she would prefer a woman and since she does not have a car, on a bus or subway route is a must. Sappy PL will probably foot the bill for her so no need for OHIP. Post or PM if you wish. Thanks.

translation: I need to get out of this hobby!! Any psychiatrist out there that can help me?

 

[Hank Reardon]

Bs'er? First you accuse me of being an enabler and now saying I am not telling the truth. Which is it? In case your small mind doesn't grasp the concept, Sheik and the mods don't give people extra "points" if they show compassion for humanity or if they are narcissistic like you.

Many people don't know each other in "real" life on this Board so I have nothing to gain by not being truthful. In any event, this discussion is off topic and I will not respond further to your reckless allegations. However, I would like to respectfully suggest you try to become a human being. I know it will be difficult for you but you might grow up and mature one of these days. On the other hand, some people are destined to be imbeciles.

Uhhhhh ???? You can be an enabler and not tell the truth as well ! These are not mutually exclusive, friend !

I really couldn't care less about ''Shiek and the mods '' btw, their views and thoughts are irrelevent to me.

You have been untruthful and its very plain and obvious to anyone with a brain,

I am a human, and a selfish one at that !

You are human and selfish but you pretend to be an altruist, and at least I for one know that that is evil !!!!

Glad you decided to leave this thread too !!

 

[petitelover]

update

Again, thanks for all to comments and referrals. Thought I would post to let you know how it turned out. I gave her all of the information and encouraged her to pick up the telephone and make the call to get the help she so desperately needs. The end result - no call. Sigh. I guess some people are destined to live in depression. As others suggested, she has to be the one to realize she needs help. I agree, so I think I have done all I can do for her. She has the info if she changes her mind, but I doubt she will. Her last comment to me was she doesn't care about life anymore. Sad case. I wish her well.

 

[Hank Reardon]

Apology accepted Petit ! Many more souls to help ...

Maybe YOU should consider going to CAMH to seek out why YOU are taking these steps !!

Thats what I read into this ridiculous thread.

If SHE wants help, SHE can get it.

The real issue here is why you are an enabler,

Truth hurts pal, seek a doctor yourself first.This is real deep,

good luck

You can find many more birds with broken wings my friend,

 

[petitelover]

You can find many more birds with broken wings my friend,

You read that as an apology to you? You are more selfish that I thought.

 

[Hank Reardon]

Well thank you,

 

[3Tees]

Well thank you,

You know what, you really are an asshole. In my previous post here, I indicated that you may have been right about this person (shudder). You lack humanity. Most people don't take you seriously because you're a jerk. Here's an existential dilemma for you - "If Hank Reardon shouts some words of wisdom, but no one wants to hear him, does he make a sound?"

I can see that you've got some ability to see deeper into a situation than others, and that comes from my training in clinical psychology - types like you have that innate ability. The reverse side of the coin for types like you, and what I object to and what holds you back as a decent human being is the fact that you're all brawn, and no brains or compassion. GET SOME!!!! You've created a mess - have the decency to stick around and sort through it.

There's a great phrase that I learned as I was going through clinics - When one person comments on your character, you don't need to believe him. When two people do it, you may want to listen, and when three people comment on it - they're right whether you like it or not. You've got a whole thread dedicated to what a jerk you are - focus your logic on that. You've got someone trained in this who recognizes your ability and still calls you an farktard.

You've got our attention, are you going to be human with it, or are you going to continue to be an asshole?

 

[Hank Reardon]

Hmmmmm,

You know what, you really are an asshole. In my previous post here, I indicated that you may have been right about this person (shudder). You lack humanity. Most people don't take you seriously because you're a jerk. Here's an existential dilemma for you - "If Hank Reardon shouts some words of wisdom, but no one wants to hear him, does he make a sound?"

I can see that you've got some ability to see deeper into a situation than others, and that comes from my training in clinical psychology - types like you have that innate ability. The reverse side of the coin for types like you, and what I object to and what holds you back as a decent human being is the fact that you're all brawn, and no brains or compassion. GET SOME!!!! You've created a mess - have the decency to stick around and sort through it.

There's a great phrase that I learned as I was going through clinics - When one person comments on your character, you don't need to believe him. When two people do it, you may want to listen, and when three people comment on it - they're right whether you like it or not. You've got a whole thread dedicated to what a jerk you are - focus your logic on that. You've got someone trained in this who recognizes your ability and still calls you an farktard.

You've got our attention, are you going to be human with it, or are you going to continue to be an asshole?

So when 3 people agree on something its correct ?????

And you were in clinical pyschology ?

What do you mean about a thread about Hank Reardon btw ?

 

[3Tees]

So when 3 people agree on something its correct ?????

No jerk-off, I don`t mean in general, or as a "scientific rule", you imbecile. I`m not saying if three people agree on the theory of relativity then it is true - that requires objective proof. Re-read the post you fark-tard... when three people mention something about your personality, they are probably noticing something about you that you don`t see. It`s not a rule meant to be applied to all scientific endeavors.

Would you not agree that in some instances and for some types of behaviour people tend not to notice, or disown, their own gross behaviours? If you agree with that then one of the only ways for them to take notice of it is when others mention it to them. So yeah, if someone came into my office and said "Someone told me I`m a real downer" I`d say "Go out in the world, notice yourself, notice if others say it to you" and I`d leave it up to the person to come back in and see what they found out. If they realize that others say it about them, then I can work with it and explore it with the person - that`s all.

Now, slow down, re-read the post, and understand it. Assume it is written from a place of intelligence at least equal to yours (so in other words I`ve passed grade two). You`re way too quick and not detail-oriented in the slightest, and you miss nuances (probably because you don`t have the patience for them, just like you don`t have the patience for others - though responding to my posts is a step in the right direction). Omission of details with only a focus on Hakeypoo`s Big Picture Agenda makes you seem stupid.

Oh, and here`s the thread

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=187376

I`m a big poster in it.

 

[Hank Reardon]

So Doctor...

No jerk-off, I don't mean in general, or as a "scientific rule", you imbecile. I'm not saying if three people agree on the theory of relativity then it is true - that requires objective proof. Re-read the post you fark-tard... when three people mention something about your personality, they are probably noticing something about you that you don't see. It's not a rule meant to be applied to all scientific endeavors.

Would you not agree that in some instances and for some types of behaviour people tend not to notice, or disown, their own gross behaviours? If you agree with that then one of the only ways for them to take notice of it is when others mention it to them. So yeah, if someone came into my office and said "Someone told me I'm a real downer" I'd say "Go out in the world, notice yourself, notice if others say it to you" and I'd leave it up to the person to come back in and see what they found out. If they realize that others say it about them, then I can work with it and explore it with the person - that's all.

Now, slow down, re-read the post, and understand it. You're way too quick to criticize others, and it makes you seem stupid.

Oh, and here's the thread



I'm a big poster in it.

Is this how you spoke when you were studying ?

Still no idea about a thread or what you are getting at.

 

[3Tees]

Is this how you spoke when you were studying?

Still no idea about a thread or what you are getting at.

Let me ask you this... is my language getting your attention (I bet it is)? Is it breaking through some of your defenses? Are you responding to me because of it?

I think you can handle my potty mouth it and stern criticism - but let me know if you can`t, it would be a good realization (and bring on a bit of feelings of shame I bet).

Here`s the thread - I had to copy and paste it. Again you`re quick... you read my post within the minute or two I took to find the link and paste it. I have a Hankering I`ve got your attention.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=187376

 

[Hank Reardon]

Awww, thats so cute !

You think you are bugging me .

The reason that I respond quickly is because I love outing the fakes- and you are quite the fake , ain't you.

How about we just discuss the issue that bugs you


Clinical pyschologist !!!!! Joker,

 

[3Tees]

Awww, thats so cute !

You think you are bugging me .

The reason that I respond quickly is because I love outing the fakes- and you are quite the fake , ain't you.

How about we just discuss the issue that bugs you


Clinical pyschologist !!!!! Joker,

How am I a fake?

 

[LancsLad]

How am I a fake?

I saw you in a diaper.

I thought you were a fakir, but never a fake.

 

[Hank Reardon]

Well,

How am I a fake?

I think we both know the answer to that buttercup,

 

[3Tees]

I saw you in a diaper.

I thought you were a fakir, but never a fake.

I thought I saw you in a plane and that you were a Fokker, not a fakir or a faker, though I do appreciate the support.