Protesters outside several conservative SC justices residences

[jcpro]

C'mon, we all know that Musk, Rogan and Maher aren't "lefties" by anyone's standards. Try and keep your posts remotely credible.

Maher in particular is an entertainer who employs shock and contrarianism to get views and clicks.

Oh boy...

 

[bver_hunter]

There were Republicans who called the FreeDumb Convoy protesters that illegally barricaded the border transit routes preventing the flow of goods and the citizens of Ottawa from moving along with their daily lives as "Patriots" and "Peaceful". Yet the same hypocrites now want this:

Republicans want Supreme Court demonstrators arrested. Is that legal?
The Justice Department has not yet signaled that it will be pursuing legal action against any of the protesters

Republicans want Supreme Court demonstrators arrested. Is that legal?

The Justice Department has not yet signaled that it will be pursuing legal action against any of the protesters

www.salon.com

 

[Dave58]

start by arresting these clowns

 

[WyattEarp]

This is an interesting one. What "bridges" should CS be building to bring in Manchin and Sinema?

I'm all ears.

CS introduces moderate proposals. Proposals that moderate Democrats and Republicans will support.

 

[WyattEarp]

There were Republicans who called the FreeDumb Convoy protesters that illegally barricaded the border transit routes preventing the flow of goods and the citizens of Ottawa from moving along with their daily lives as "Patriots" and "Peaceful". Yet the same hypocrites now want this:

Republicans want Supreme Court demonstrators arrested. Is that legal?
The Justice Department has not yet signaled that it will be pursuing legal action against any of the protesters

Republicans want Supreme Court demonstrators arrested. Is that legal?

The Justice Department has not yet signaled that it will be pursuing legal action against any of the protesters

www.salon.com

Ummm, blocking transit routes is also illegal.

 

[WyattEarp]

start by arresting these clowns

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Dave58, how's Mar a logo? I bet it's hot this time of year.

 

[WyattEarp]

Maybe you should just stick to debating the issues and cut the drama.

I'm getting this from Johnny Histrionic.

 

[Dave58]

Dave58, how's Mar a logo? I bet it's hot this time of year.

It's full of liars , conmen and even donnie's hooker wife is getting in on things

Melania you're a POS like your husband

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shut the fuck up you ugly POS

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[bver_hunter]

Ummm, blocking transit routes is also illegal.

Yes, it is!!

 

[mandrill]

Oh boy...

C'mon, JC. You can do better than that.

 

[mandrill]

CS introduces moderate proposals. Proposals that moderate Democrats and Republicans will support.

I'm just curious at this point. What's your idea of an "extremist leftist position" on abortion. I'm going to guess that your idea of unacceptably crazy-extreme is pretty much exactly what the SCC wrote in Morgentaler.

But surprise me.

 

[bver_hunter]

Tens of thousands at a Pro-Choice March!!

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

 

[WyattEarp]

I'm just curious at this point. What's your idea of an "extremist leftist position" on abortion. I'm going to guess that your idea of unacceptably crazy-extreme is pretty much exactly what the SCC wrote in Morgentaler.

As a society, it's probably best to not codify abortion at anytime during a pregnancy.

If you were reading the posts, I think having some time restriction with a caveat of the mother's health being in danger is reasonable. This seems to be the common law in many industrialized countries.

Now you have some Democrat politicians saying there should be no restrictions whatsoever. And of course, you have some Republican politicians advocating for a total ban. These are the extreme position markers many politicians have to advocate in partisan political jurisdictions.

 

[mandrill]

As a society, it's probably best to not codify abortion at anytime during a pregnancy.
If you were reading the posts, I think having some time restriction with a caveat of the mother's health being in danger is reasonable. This seems to be the common law in many industrialized countries.
Now you have some Democrat politicians saying there should be no restrictions whatsoever. And of course, you have some Republican politicians advocating for a total ban. These are the extreme position markers many politicians have to advocate in partisan political jurisdictions.

Yah, I thought that was exactly where you were going with this. Based on what legal and medical expertise I could ask, but I already know the answer.

The SCC in Morgentaler said it's a privacy issue between a woman and her doctor and it shouldn't be subject to the criminal law and Canada has functioned perfectly well with that for 40 years. And the pre Morgentaler legal situation in Canada was probably close to what you would describe as a "reasonable" law - a woman had to put her case to a medical ethics committee at her local hospital and have them approve the abortion on medical and personal grounds. The SCC found that interference with a women's right to control her body was absolutely intolerable.

That's not "some Democrat politicians" saying, that's the SCC and now accepted by pretty much everyone in Canada.

Of course, you know better. And hey! - you have Bill Maher to back you up and that's a winner every time.

So I guess you think of the Supreme Court Bench that decided Morgentaler as "extremist lefties", again based on your own opinion.

You've clearly misunderstood the entire line of reasoning in either Roe or Morgentaler.

 

[WyattEarp]

Yah, I thought that was exactly where you were going with this. Based on what legal and medical expertise I could ask, but I already know the answer.

The SCC in Morgentaler said it's a privacy issue between a woman and her doctor and it shouldn't be subject to the criminal law and Canada has functioned perfectly well with that for 40 years. And the pre Morgentaler legal situation in Canada was probably close to what you would describe as a "reasonable" law - a woman had to put her case to a medical ethics committee at her local hospital and have them approve the abortion on medical and personal grounds. The SCC found that interference with a women's right to control her body was absolutely intolerable.

That's not "some Democrat politicians" saying, that's the SCC and now accepted by pretty much everyone in Canada.

Of course, you know better. And hey! - you have Bill Maher to back you up and that's a winner every time.

So I guess you think of the Supreme Court Bench that decided Morgentaler as "extremist lefties", again based on your own opinion.

You've clearly misunderstood the entire line of reasoning in either Roe or Morgentaler.

I think you are looking for an argument. Every issue playing in your head does not allow for compromise. So be it.

If your beef is with me and Maher, it's also with several Western European countries. No offense, but why should anyone consider the SCC the last and final word on the topic globally? It's clearly a very complicated issue that doesn't lend itself easily to legal decrees. If it did all the industrialized countries would have settled in a similar place on the legal and regulatory question.

Please tell me you've got something more, Lieutenant. Please tell me there's an ace up your sleeve. Unrestricted abortion laws are on trial for their lives. Please tell me their lawyer hasn't pinned their hopes on the SCC and R. v. Morgentaler.

 

[y2kmark]

Hate to disagree with you Counsellor but I think picketing Judges is illegal.

Of course it is. Politicians, lawyers and LE have their own political action networks. One hand washes the other...

 

[mandrill]

I think you are looking for an argument. Every issue playing in your head does not allow for compromise. So be it.
If your beef is with me and Maher, it's also with several Western European countries. No offense, but why should anyone consider the SCC the last and final word on the topic globally? It's clearly a very complicated issue that doesn't lend itself easily to legal decrees. If it did all the industrialized countries would have settled in a similar place on the legal and regulatory question.
Please tell me you've got something more, Lieutenant. Please tell me there's an ace up your sleeve. Unrestricted abortion laws are on trial for their lives. Please tell me their lawyer hasn't pinned their hopes on the SCC and R. v. Morgentaler.

I don't think that a "compromise" does anything other than bootstrap your argument on TERB. If it's the right of a woman to have control over her own body, then the SCC was correct in 1985 and Roe was correct in 1973. That control must be absolute.

So give me some examples from Western Europe. Bearing in mind that many of those countries - i.e. the UK - do not have constitutions and therefore, inherent constitutional rights are not arguable.

 

[WyattEarp]

I don't think that a "compromise" does anything other than bootstrap your argument on TERB. If it's the right of a woman to have control over her own body, then the SCC was correct in 1985 and Roe was correct in 1973. That control must be absolute.

So give me some examples from Western Europe. Bearing in mind that many of those countries - i.e. the UK - do not have constitutions and therefore, inherent constitutional rights are not arguable.

Let's not digress into a tedious discussion of European abortion laws country by country. Canada has the most permissive abortion regulations in the world.

Per Wikipedia: "Abortion in Germany is forbidden by law but without punishment in the first trimester under the condition of mandatory counseling and is permitted later in pregnancy in cases that the pregnancy poses an important danger to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman."

 

[Frankfooter]

Let's not digress into a tedious discussion of European abortion laws country by country. Canada has the most permissive abortion regulations in the world.

Per Wikipedia: "Abortion in Germany is forbidden by law but without punishment in the first trimester under the condition of mandatory counseling and is permitted later in pregnancy in cases that the pregnancy poses an important danger to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman."

There are quite a few Muslim countries with more permissive abortion laws than the US.
But do they have this?

Rape Victims Should Be Forced to Have Rapist's Baby, GOP Gov. Openly States

"They're still babies." Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts said he would pursue a total abortion ban in his state if Roe v. Wade is overturned.

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