Poilievre backs banning trans women from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms

[Skoob]

The spending was during the pandemic, what would a PEE PEE government have down?

Inflation is a world wide issue and every G7 country has raised the cost of borrowing.

Can we just say you prefer to live in a fictional where facts are fake news?

The reckless spending started way before the pandemic and continues.
A simple google search will show you that. Don't be lazy.

Question: If Trudeau went outside and shot an infant in a stroller with a gun he had stolen while breaking into someone's home how long would it take you to blame PP for not coming up with bullet proof vests for toddlers?

 

[squeezer]

The reckless spending started way before the pandemic and continues.
A simple google search will show you that. Don't be lazy.

It is amazing how he beat Sleezy Sheer and beat boring O'toole then eh?? Yup, only Skoob knew better than the electorate. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I am starting to feel sorry for you.

Question: If Trudeau went outside and shot an infant in a stroller with a gun he had stolen while breaking into someone's home how long would it take you to blame PP for not coming up with bullet proof vests for toddlers?

That is a question that is commonly asked about Trump. Justin is classy unlike Pee Pee and Trump.

Question, WHY DOES PEE PEE and your ilk blame everything on Justin?? Can we just say you're blinded by bias and jealousy of Justin?

 

[Skoob]

Because they do not miss anything like >99% of the time. Not any different from any other medical professional.

A doctor can misdiagnose you, or miss something, when you go for a check up. So do you avoid going to a doctor? Pilots sometimes make errors, crash the plane and kill everyone on board. So do you avoid flying on a plane? I can go on, about human errors due to judgement, impatience, personal biases that happen in just about every single job. So this is irrelevant.

The chances of not providing appropriate care, is very rare, and therefore, those professionals are still the authority on these things. And no, of all things, trans related care, is very minor, given that trans folks make up approx. 0.1% of the population. There are more people with anxiety and depression, than gender dysphoria.

You would be surprised...but don't let the facts get in your way.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/health/hospital-misdiagnoses-study/index.html

 

[Skoob]

It is amazing how he beat Sleezy Sheer and beat boring O'toole then eh?? Yup, only Skoob knew better than the electorate. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I am starting to feel sorry for you.




That is a question that is commonly asked about Trump. Justin is classy unlike Pee Pee and Trump.

Question, WHY DOES PEE PEE and your ilk blame everything on Justin?? Can we just say you're blinded by bias and jealousy of Justin?

Yeah...that's what I thought.
Enjoy JT's final days and let me know how you handle the heartbreak once he's gone.

 

[DesRicardo]

 

[Skoob]

That is in an ER setting. Trans people do not visit ERs for gender dysphoria. Errors in an ER setting is bound to be high, due to how busy it is, and due to the doctor's trying to ascertain if you are going to die or if you can wait for treatment.

But regardless, that is what I was asking you. So ERs misdiagnosed 7M people, amongst 136M patients. That is about 5%. So tomorrow if you have an emergency, are you not going to go to an ER or are you still going to show up begging them to not let you die? Yeah, that's what I thought. It is the same thing. When you have a 95% probability that someone is going to treat you right, you are going to show up. So why wouldn't someone go to a psychologist if the worst that can happen is a psychologist who isn't very attentive, in a minuscule number of cases? This is a non issue. Never let logic and reason get in your way.

7M people!
I guess its just an acceptable loss? That's like almost 2 times the size of Toronto!

The point, which you clearly missed, is doctors and councilors can be wrong.

Psychologists can be prone to being wrong more often because they are not dealing with emergency medical situations and don't have the same pressure, and much more room for biased opinion about a patient to influence their diagnosis.

 

[Not getting younger]

I wouldn't care one way or another if they removed the carbon tax because I am not that crazy about environmental issues.

However, no body is forcing things on you. You go in and use a public restroom and don't worry about who else uses the same public bathroom. By trying to make rules for who should or shouldn't enter the bathroom, that too the women's bathroom, you are the one trying to force yourself on others. Especially after said science has been explained to you multiple times with actual links.

This is a feature of righties. They will take authoritarian stances and argue that someone else's freedoms, are their loss. Which is mind bogglingly moronic.

are you “female”. Maybe before making such a bold statement you should ask them. Why is it men, rarely ask women what they think and just assume they know best.. Especially young women.

These are just the ones that have been caught at some point..
https://globalnews.ca/news/1313399/heres-the-sex-offender-map-ontario-didnt-want-you-to-see/

 

[Skoob]

So you cannot accept the facts then? Am I supposed to pay attention to some right wing anti-Liberal media, who want o attack the Government no matter what, even though there are more housing start-ups. if the previous Conservative Government did nothing to address the situation as the graph indicates then this is an ongoing problem. When the likes of Pee Pee buys multiple houses to rent out, then we are seeing a whopping 32% of Canadians own multiple properties!!

Maybe a non-partisan 3rd party source rather than directly who is creating the mess and lying to you?

Why do you always go back to the previous government (Harper) but don't go back to the previous government (Wynne) when it goes against your narrative?
Liberals have been in power for a decade!
How long does a government need to be in power before you stop blaming the previous one?

 

[Skoob]

Yes 7M, out of 136M patients. Which is 5%.

My question however is, because there were 7M cases of misdiagnosis in ERs, are you going to stop going to an ER in the event of an emergency? No.

Doctors misdiagnose routinely. Are you going to stop going to the doctor? No.

Pilots err, and have crashed the plane and killed people, more than once. Are you going to avoid flying? No.

Similarly, psychologists can also - not misdiagnose, that wasn't the point of your article - but be insensitive to the needs of the trans patient and not provide them quality care.

However, in each of these cases, the chance of it happening is very rare. Infact, it is the case that they are more often than not, correct, in their assessments.

It is therefore a non-issue, and you are hanging on to a thread where you really have no point to make.

You are right, and you don't see the majority of young women, complaining about this. Infact, they support trans women. Old ass rightie men however, have bigger issues with it, than those young women - who have bigger issues with those old ass men, than with trans women lol. Infact, the chance they would encounter a trans woman in Canada, is <0.1%.

Strawman argument.

The point of the article was to show you that for whatever reason psychologists are not providing proper consultation, the end result is young kids receiving the wrong assessment.

Leave the kids alone and don't put them into situations that can affect the rest of their lives.

It's not abuse...it's preventing abuse.

 

[bver_hunter]

The Liberals posting their own propaganda are not facts.
Liberals have been in power for a decade. You can stop trying to blame the last people in power now.

People have the right to own properties just as they have the right to own any legal investments. Canada's GDP is tied closely with real-estate. So are pension plans. Jealousy will get you nowhere.
Why are you jealous about people that have invested wisely?

So we are supposed to buy the right wing propaganda? No the Liberals have not been in power for a decade. Just over 8 years. harper was in power for over a decade, and he did nothing to address the rising house prices that were being used as investments for both Canadians and foreigners!!

There you go, and you make excuses for people who own multiple properties which at one time were being flipped just for profits that caused the house prices to rise and them make it unaffordable. At least we have the present Govt. who are taxing those who are not resident for at least a year. You nonsense about jealousy is just childish!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Maybe a non-partisan 3rd party source rather than directly who is creating the mess and lying to you?

Why do you always go back to the previous government (Harper) but don't go back to the previous government (Wynne) when it goes against your narrative?
Liberals have been in power for a decade!
How long does a government need to be in power before you stop blaming the previous one?

Again you cannot accept the facts. We are seeing more housing startups and now affordable ones being built. Once again you are exaggerating how long the Liberals have been in power. It is for 8 years and not a decade. You want to throw the Wynn Govt in the mix when it seems to be convenient for you. But somehow your feathers are ruffled when the Harper Govt. is thrown in the mix. Again the fact is that all Governments have not addressed this housing issue!!

 

[Frankfooter]

The reckless spending started way before the pandemic and continues.

DoFo let the 407 consortium off from paying $1 billion in fines.
Reckless.

He payed out private nurses and surgeries for double the price.
reckless.

Greenbelt?
reckless.

 

[Not getting younger]

All govts?
How much of an issue was it prior to 2012-2014?

See graph below

https://trreb.ca/files/market-stats/market-watch/historic.pdf

Either way not really related to the trans topic

 

[Frankfooter]

Strawman argument.

The point of the article was to show you that for whatever reason psychologists are not providing proper consultation, the end result is young kids receiving the wrong assessment.

Leave the kids alone and don't put them into situations that can affect the rest of their lives.

It's not abuse...it's preventing abuse.

So you are saying kids shouldn't see psychologists?

 

[Skoob]

The psychologists who are not providing proper consultation, are a minuscule percentage. So it is a non-issue.

When a kid needs psychologist help, the right thing to do therefore is to get them the help they need. If the shrink sucks, just change your psychologist. However denying psychotherapy for gender dysphoria, because a tiny % of psychologists could suck at their jobs, is child abuse and neglect. Such parents should have their kids taken away.

Stop promoting child abuse and neglect.

"providing proper consultation" is a very subjective point of view. It's not something you can scientifically measure.

You'll figure it out I'm sure...it's not too difficult a concept.

 

[Not getting younger]

Of course you can scientifically measure it. Standards of care and the relevant procedures are established by experts. The recipient of care will determine if it works for them, and whether the recipient is feeling better can also be assessed by the psychologist themselves. If it does not work, the patient will change psychologists and if it does work and they are happy, which is the case 99.99% of the time, then proper consultation, advice and care has been provided.

Yup, kids should not see psychologist, because like 0.1% of psychologists suck at their jobs.
You should not go to the ER in the event of an emergency, because 5% of the cases are misdiagnosed.
You should not go see your family doctor, because in a minority of cases, they miss something.
You should not take a flight, because some pilots commit errors leading to plane crashes.
You should not buy meat from the grocery store, because sometimes meat is recalled due to salmonella poisoning.
You should not drive, because many a times there are accidents that kill people.
You should not play sports, because many a times, people experience injuries.
You should not go to the gym, because sometimes, people sprain their ankles.

You get the idea. Talk about being a snowflake rightie.

Id settle for something far less partisan and just say people are becoming snowflakes. Back in my day we weren’t afraid to ride bikes, get dirty, or scrape our knees, or go tobogganing, when baby it’s cold outside.

Nor did we get taken to the ER for sniffles and scrapes and force people with cuts that need a stitch to wait 8 hours.

 

[Not getting younger]

ER wait times aside, people do those things today as well. Except for Skoob, who seems to be afraid of everything lol.

baby it’s cold outside: cancelled
Tobagonning: cancelled
Riding bikes. Not without body armour
Letting kids be kids:,cancelled

 

[Frankfooter]

"providing proper consultation" is a very subjective point of view.

Yes, we know.
Only Jordan Peterson is 'proper consultation' for the MAGAts.

Add in a little conversion therapy, banning of women's rights and then trying put the gays back in the closet.
That's what white wingers want.

 

[Skoob]

So you are saying kids shouldn't see psychologists?

No I'm saying you should.

 

[Frankfooter]

No I'm saying you should.

white wingers are so funny