Poilievre backs banning trans women from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms

TomFord1980

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I wouldn't care one way or another if they removed the carbon tax because I am not that crazy about environmental issues.

However, no body is forcing things on you. You go in and use a public restroom and don't worry about who else uses the same public bathroom. By trying to make rules for who should or shouldn't enter the bathroom, that too the women's bathroom, you are the one trying to force yourself on others. Especially after said science has been explained to you multiple times with actual links.

This is a feature of righties. They will take authoritarian stances and argue that someone else's freedoms, are their loss. Which is mind bogglingly moronic.
Biology my man. You're either born with a dink or a puss. Its that simple. Not sure what high school you went to back in your home country but they seem to skipped that class for you.

The libtards will thankfully be voted out soon.
 
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JuanGoodman

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Biology my man. You're either born with a dink or a puss. Its that simple. Not sure what high school you went to back in your home country but they seem to skipped that class for you.

The libtards will thankfully be voted out soon.
the libtards are not about biology or science

they are all about feelings and emotions

and virtue signaling

I hope that the federal libtards get destroyed like they did in Ontario
 

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Once Pee Pee comes up with a plan, then those affected by it will give him the same shit that he tries to throw against the PM:

Pierre Poilievre's housing plan slammed by Canada's mayors
Withholding infrastructure funding from cash-strapped cities will not help solve the housing crisis, mayors charged Monday.


The stupid Axe the tax will deprive the lowest income earners of their rebates that really have helped them:

If Canada axed its carbon tax — and rebates — this is how different households would gain or lose:


Of course Pee Pee wants to work for the highest Income Canadians............PERIOD!!
Housing build incentives worked in Ontario when DoFO rewarded Toronto recently for meeting the targets. Incentives work. Everything the Liberals have tried hasn't.

Rebates are your own money coming back to you and less than you paid out for everything that has increased due to the carbon tax. How is that depriving anyone? OMFG
 

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That is sex. Sex =/= gender identity. That is actually the science, which you said, you'd trust. Here is a link and since you said you'd trust the science, am sure the definition from the Canadian Institutes of Health Research, will suffice?


Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals. It is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy. Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed.

Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people. It influences how people perceive themselves and each other, how they act and interact, and the distribution of power and resources in society. Gender identity is not confined to a binary (girl/woman, boy/man) nor is it static; it exists along a continuum and can change over time. There is considerable diversity in how individuals and groups understand, experience and express gender through the roles they take on, the expectations placed on them, relations with others and the complex ways that gender is institutionalized in society.


You can hope. But that is all you can do. If liberal values were destroyed in Ontario like you suggest, you wouldn't still be talking about it. I have always said this. Liberalism is the way of the world and as time rolls on, the world will become more and more and more liberal, not less. You either get with the times, or get left behind. Bitching and moaning, is fine, but that is all you will be left doing.
Liberalism is just an annoying cloak that the current western leaders wear while we bomb the hell out of the middle east and stage coups all over the world.

Also, have you heard of the Overton window young man? The pendulum has swung too far left. Time for the adults to come back into the room.
 

JuanGoodman

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You can hope. But that is all you can do. If liberal values were destroyed in Ontario like you suggest, you wouldn't still be talking about it. I have always said this. Liberalism is the way of the world and as time rolls on, the world will become more and more and more liberal, not less. You either get with the times, or get left behind. Bitching and moaning, is fine, but that is all you will be left doing.
this is what mentally ill people can do

this is libtardism 101


you might be right and it's too late for us

liberals are like a cancer on this planet and it's stage 4 right now
 
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Skoob

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If liberal values were destroyed in Ontario like you suggest, you wouldn't still be talking about it.
Ironic statement.
Considering the left has pushed for more censorship, government control, cancel culture, limiting freedom of speech, etc, etc...I think you are either naive or indoctrinated.

"Liberalism" is a term often used by Marxists in disguise.
 

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Can we all agree that sex and gender are not the same? Ok!

With that said, bathrooms and change rooms are segregated by sex, not gender!


One transgender student in the States tried to sue his school for not allowing him (born a girl) to use a male restroom.

From the court records:

The bathroom policy classifies based on biological sex, not transgender status or gender identity. Both sides of the classification, biological males and biological females, include transgender students.

 

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None of those are pushed for by liberals. This is just rightie talking points to make themselves feel better about their own authoritarian attitudes. Righties love to project.
Ok so I had guessed you were either naive or indoctrinated about all this. Clearly indoctrinated.

Don't be lazy...all of that is pushed by the left and are not just talking points.
 

The Oracle

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I did not read the news, but the blurb seems to be outrage over a transwoman being called woman and not transgender woman? Transwomen are women, and nothing wrong if they called her woman.
Nope...Transwomen are not women...You know gametes, chromosomes and all that jazz. No matter how many hormones you take or surgeries you can't change that one.

Women use women restrooms and men use mens. That's fairly simple logic.

Gender and sex are the same thing...Now you and John Money and the crew can try all want to pervert the meaning but it ain't going fly with the biological reality.

The progressive leftists are going to die on this hill...Rather amusing really.
 
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Censoring hate speech on social media, is not censorship. Banning hate speech is not restricting freedom of speech. And righties are the ones who want the government to poke its nose on someone's bathroom use. That is government control 101.

So as I was saying, righties love to project as they are indoctrinated with rhetoric.
It's not about banning hate speech. That's how they convince you their intentions are righteous. It's about censoring anything that goes against the leftist narrative.

This article explains it well...


To Liberals, ‘free Speech’ Means the Right to Indoctrinate. To Conservatives, It Means the Right to Dissent from the Elites

Look closely at the different efforts to control what is said and where.

The conservative “book bans” are “bans” only in the sense that this phrase is typically overused: removing books from curricula. No Republican is stopping anyone from buying Beloved, writing a book report on it, or borrowing it from a public library. Republicans may be picking the wrong book, and state officials are often taking the prerogative from local school officials.

The “critical race theory bans” are similarly debates about who should write school curricula.

The Left’s infringements on free speech are different. They want to keep certain ideas and people and media outlets off of Twitter and Facebook and newspaper op-ed pages. They want the wide-open platforms removed from internet servers.

Put another way, when the Left demands free speech, it wants the government to teach children stuff that parents don’t want to be taught to their children; when the Right demands free speech, it is asking for the right to express opinions and relay facts that clash with elite teaching.

It’s not a matter that is not one of hypocrisy. It’s all about whether free speech is for the power elite or for the dissidents.

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/to-liber...t-means-the-right-to-dissent-from-the-elites/
 
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The Oracle

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Does he know?
My guess is that he doesn't know what gametes are...Hell I didn't until a few years ago.

This whole shamozzle is just a social contagion... In the near future the left will be virtue signalling over their next bogus activism cause...Probably accepting pedophiles as minor attracted persons.
 

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The whole concept of segregating private spaces like washrooms and change rooms was to protect women from the opposite sex. Now, all of a sudden, when a biological male is in a woman's bathroom, it's up to a girl or woman to determine if they're in a presence of a sexual predator or someone with a gender disphoria. As per @Kautilya it's also ok for biological females of any age to see a dick, because they likely seen it already. Very liberal approach.

Bravo 👏
 

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Yes, but it is not defined that way and has never been defined that way. It is defined by gender identity. So case closed. Transwomen have every right to use female washrooms and change rooms, as is the case currently, in Canada. (y)

Are you saying all men are rapists? Are you saying you are a sexual predator, who if allowed into a female restroom, will go crazy and rape women? Men and women have separate bathrooms for privacy, not for protection. Your whole concept of how women should be viewed, is troubling. It is likely you need some talk therapy.

Also, why will you see anyone's dick in a washroom? When you go in to a washroom, do you walk around with your dick out? When you go into a change room, do you not tie a towel around your waist so as to not expose yourself when you change? What kind of manners are you people following in public?
It sounds like you don't get out much.

Also, you're a perfect example of what the tribal identity does to people. Smh
 

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Housing build incentives worked in Ontario when DoFO rewarded Toronto recently for meeting the targets. Incentives work. Everything the Liberals have tried hasn't.

Rebates are your own money coming back to you and less than you paid out for everything that has increased due to the carbon tax. How is that depriving anyone? OMFG
Ford desperately tried to give his cronies the actual "big Incentives" to develop the GreenBelt Land, until he was found out in that scandal!!

Toronto had already started their building and house constructions program after receiving incentives from the Federal Government. Something that Pee Pee opposed!!

Federal investments are already jumpstarting housing construction across the country. Both Toronto and Vancouver have seen record numbers of housing starts in 2023, supported by accelerated rental construction. This year, federal investment in housing is $9 billion higher than it was in 2013-14. Since 2015, the average annual federal housing investment has more than doubled compared to the previous government.



Note: Amounts for 2007-08 until 2022-23 are actuals, as available. Amount for 2023-24 is an estimate. Amounts are on a cash basis. Amounts include Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) programming only, and do not include: homelessness programming; energy efficiency programs delivered through Natural Resources Canada; tax measures; cost-matching provided by provinces and territories; or investments that support distinctions-based Indigenous housing strategies.

 

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Nope, they are not the same thing.

Chromosomes, gametes etc define SEX. Sex is either male or female.

Gender identity is not sex.

I will take the Canadian Institute of Health Research definition, over any rightie who get their education on Joe Rogan or Matt Walsh or one of these other lunatics.

So yes, women (cis women and trans women) are using women's restrooms and men (cis men and trans men), men's.


Sex refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals. It is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels and function, and reproductive/sexual anatomy. Sex is usually categorized as female or male but there is variation in the biological attributes that comprise sex and how those attributes are expressed.

Gender refers to the socially constructed roles, behaviours, expressions and identities of girls, women, boys, men, and gender diverse people. It influences how people perceive themselves and each other, how they act and interact, and the distribution of power and resources in society. Gender identity is not confined to a binary (girl/woman, boy/man) nor is it static; it exists along a continuum and can change over time. There is considerable diversity in how individuals and groups understand, experience and express gender through the roles they take on, the expectations placed on them, relations with others and the complex ways that gender is institutionalized in society.


Liberals are not going to die on this hill or whatever. Liberals dont have to do anything. Its already done and protected in Canada. Righties will be the ones dying, screaming their lungs out.

I know all about gametes. I took biology.

Did you know that all embryos start out as female in the womb?


Geneticists have discovered that all human embryos start life as females, as do all embryos of mammals. About the 2nd month the fetal tests elaborate enough androgens to offset the maternal estrogens and maleness develops

Aka banning certain ideas from being presented to children. Aka restriction on freedom of speech.

Aka promoting restricting of who writes school curricula and whose ideas are presented, and how they are presented, effectively restricting freedom of speech, while misleading people, stoking racial tensions and manipulating people into thinking that critical race theory blames white people and calls them all racist. It does not.

They want racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia out of social media and prevent bullying and harassement. These are not ideas, but are hate speech, that is rightfully being banned. According to the right, anyone who makes an educated comment, is "elite" and therefore should be disregarded or suspected. It is paranoic, illiterate and downright nonsensical.
Lots of verbal diarrhea here. If you were born a male, and think you are a woman, then I believe you should be required to do a 6 month psychotherapy program to try to sort out your mind that is playing tricks with you.

This would save a lot of the people who regret cutting off their weiner.
 
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Ford desperately tried to give his cronies the actual "big Incentives" to develop the GreenBelt Land, until he was found out in that scandal!!

Toronto had already started their building and house constructions program after receiving incentives from the Federal Government. Something that Pee Pee opposed!!

Federal investments are already jumpstarting housing construction across the country. Both Toronto and Vancouver have seen record numbers of housing starts in 2023, supported by accelerated rental construction. This year, federal investment in housing is $9 billion higher than it was in 2013-14. Since 2015, the average annual federal housing investment has more than doubled compared to the previous government.



Note: Amounts for 2007-08 until 2022-23 are actuals, as available. Amount for 2023-24 is an estimate. Amounts are on a cash basis. Amounts include Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) programming only, and do not include: homelessness programming; energy efficiency programs delivered through Natural Resources Canada; tax measures; cost-matching provided by provinces and territories; or investments that support distinctions-based Indigenous housing strategies.

You post something created and peddled by the federal Liberal government.
If the Feds actually did anything Toronto as an example wouldn't be in the situation it's in as far as housing.
 

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Housing isn't federal though. And the local governments so far have been led by righties.
Wrong.
Housing falls into all levels of government.
If the Feds weren't responsible why would they be peddling their housing act and sending money to municipalities (especially now with an election on the horizon and low polling numbers right?)?
Toronto is primarily Liberal. The Feds are Liberal.

Tell me again which "righties" you are referring to?
 
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau stated that “housing isn’t a primary federal responsibility” at a funding announcement in Hamilton, Ont. on July 31.

This statement is neither accurate nor politically smart, with recent polls suggesting that 70 per cent of Canadians think the Liberal government isn’t adequately addressing the high and growing cost of housing.

While the word “housing” isn’t mentioned in the 1867 Constitution Act or 1982 Charter of Rights and Freedoms as a federal, provincial or municipal responsibility, the rights to “life, liberty and security of the person” as well as “equal protection” in the Charter can’t be achieved without adequate housing.

The right to housing — which Canada has promised to enforce in numerous international covenants — was enshrined in Canadian law by the current government in 2019.

Instead of taking responsibility for the housing needs of Canadians, the federal government has been participating in the same “ambiguity, turf guarding, buck passing and finger pointing” they accuse other governments of doing, as was recently seen in the treatment of refugee claimants in Toronto.

 

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Wrong.
Housing falls into all levels of government.
If the Feds weren't responsible why would they be peddling their housing act and sending money to municipalities (especially now with an election on the horizon and low polling numbers right?)?
Toronto is primarily Liberal. The Feds are Liberal.

Tell me again which "righties" you are referring to?
DoFo is in charge of rentals and where and how housing is built here.
He's failing.
Miserably.

Rents keep going up and he does piss all.

 
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