Pit Bull kills its' owner after seizure!?

[KBear]

I posted on page 4 "Think that know one has been killed in Boulder by a Pit Bull in 10 years, people have still been maimed."

Sheik, You just saying it does not make it so. or are you making up more stories?

 

[jwmorrice]

Huh????!!!!!!!!

Like it or not, your argument for breed bans is not working.

Can't agree with that. In fact, I can't believe you've written that. I'd say there's little/nothing left to your arguments and assertions that hasn't been decisively dealt with.

jwm

 

[1st down]

Note to Sheik: seems like now you have 1st down/Phat Boy and Sasha Jones on your team. Great lineup. LOL (who plays right wing?)

it seems like that team is the one that has a clue. if you think there will be a pitt bull ban in toronto or the gta in your lifetime you have a better chance of actually getting laid without having to pay for it.

 

[1st down]

Nothing........I repeat nothing you have suggested here will GUARANTEE that the wrong kind of people will not possess these 4 legged lethal weapons.

and NOTHING .................i repeat NOTHING that has been suggested here will ever see fruition either. too many people who vote on these things in this city have dogs and would never let a ban on any dogs hgappen for fear it can be used again and again to ban any other dogs ro animals.

and remember the guy who is trying to spearhead this ban is dalton mcwimpys right hand man....they still have some election lies that people wont forget so there goes bryant's credibility.




tiger.....i hope you finally get to see a dog one day instead of just reading about them...they are nice animals. too bad the one you tried to bone when you were younger bit you and gave you a bad impression of them all...


but thats what you get

 

[jwmorrice]

Sheik:

You're a nice guy but reading the internet doesn't seem to have helped the quality of your argumentation! Time for you to roll over and play dead on this issue.

jwm

 

[1st down]

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0617_040617_dogbans.html

http://www.altpet.net/badlaw.html

http://www.vesera.com/shandael/articles/insteadof.htm

http://www.edba.org.au/articles/hodgson.html

http://www.thepetprofessor.com/secP...level=5&referenceID=404&TitleID=404&breed=dog

The list is endless and they are all pretty much saying the same thing. Bans dont work. Education does.

we know that. it s only kbear and tiger that think to the contrary. there would be a ban already if there was going to be one.

 

[KBear]

Sheik, what you have posted are just opinions, these people could just as easily be quoting you in their anti pit bull ban discussion. Just because something has popped into some ones head and they have written it down on the net does not make it a fact.

Try to post something factual, like a case where there were 30 serious dog attacks in a jurisdiction, they implemented a breed ban, and the number of serious dog attacks went up. That would be a useful point to your side of the debate, otherwise your articles are just talk from someone who may or may not be telling the truth.


Sheik, Please try to post at least one fact to back up your side of the debate.

 

[1st down]

Sheik:

You're a nice guy but reading the internet doesn't seem to have helped the quality of your argumentation! Time for you to roll over and play dead on this issue.

jwm

seeing as there will never be a ban on any dogs here....it is a dead issue.


it will never happen.



tbill has a better chance at getting laid for free(and tiger) before the ban happens....

 

[jwmorrice]

seeing as there will never be a ban on any dogs here....it is a dead issue.


it will never happen.



tbill has a better chance at getting laid for free(and tiger) before the ban happens....

Wonder if some folks in Kitchener and Winnipeg thought the same thing. I'm no Cassandra. Time will tell on this.

jwm

 

[jwmorrice]

jwm,

*shrugs*

Is that your best imitation of Trudeau?

jwm

 

[jwmorrice]

Oh the breed ban will likely happen and then it will get challenged in court because someone's family pet of 10 years was destroyed due to the law.

Hey, where does John Tory stand on the issue?

jwm

 

[KBear]

Oh the breed ban will likely happen and then it will get challenged in court because someone's family pet of 10 years was destroyed due to the law.

People opposed the motorcycle helmet law, seatbelt law, gun laws. I understand and appreciate that change is hard to deal with for some, but we would never want to go back as a society, for example, to allowing people be able to go to the corner store to buy a handgun and bullets whenever they got pissed off. Sometimes as a society, we have to protect people from harming themselves and others, even when that is not their original intention.

It will be ok, we will get through this change together…

Maybe we could make a deal with the government, they can outlaw Pit Bulls, if they legalize brothels

 

[langeweile]

Sheik..good call.
Kbear if that person owned a gun she could have shot the dog.

I submit to the panel the following.
More people are bitten by other dogs than by Rottweilers, Dobermans and Pitt bulls combined. It is not sensational so the press doesn't cover it.
I have three little children and I own a Rottweiler uuhhuuhh. I also own a small terrier. My Rottweiler has been attacked by a few little wannabe dogs. My Rottie just turned around and walked away. My terrier bit back. Go figure.
I had to repeat the old line, but I have to....there is no bad dogs, there is only bad owners.
Not the dog the owner should be punished. The problem is that laws regulating animal cruelty and breeding are a joke. A traffic ticket is more punishing.
As always our politicians for the sake of being popular, just simply miss the point.
Ciao

 

[Phat Boy]

Sheik, what you have posted are just opinions, these people could just as easily be quoting you in their anti pit bull ban discussion. Just because something has popped into some ones head and they have written it down on the net does not make it a fact.

Try to post something factual, like a case where there were 30 serious dog attacks in a jurisdiction, they implemented a breed ban, and the number of serious dog attacks went up. That would be a useful point to your side of the debate, otherwise your articles are just talk from someone who may or may not be telling the truth.


Sheik, Please try to post at least one fact to back up your side of the debate.

you keep bringing up this one case with the 30 serious dog attacks.

they have a breed ban in hollywood florida and hallandale florida....go check their stats. the other dogs are still biting and it hasnt brought down the number in the 6 years it has been enforced.

i am sure that in places where there are overwhelming amounts of pitt bulls, and smaller population these bans might work......but they will never get it implemented here. and the ban in florida for example is just for pitt bulls and rotties. no "offshoot" of these dogs because a judge ruled it was too difficult to distinguish what part of a dog was a Pitt bull"


but hey...if you need something to do other then bother dogs who were brought up the wrong way....go after the judges that let drunk drivers drive again after a conviction.

go after the guys that buy guns and shoot preople.....go after anything that will make a diiference in the world.


ridding the world of potentially 200 dog bites is like trying to smell a fart in a windstrorm in todays day and age. there are real p[roblems in the city and the powers that be will be reminded of this and they will drop their pressing need to ban dogs.


ban the jane finch corridor for being too violent instead. you can apply the EXACT same argument. it is people instead of dogs some argue....great...the people should know better...the dogs dont.

 

[Phat Boy]

kbear:


are you a pet owner?

 

[Phat Boy]

Wonder if some folks in Kitchener and Winnipeg thought the same thing. I'm no Cassandra. Time will tell on this.

jwm

small towns will let it happen. too many people in this city with money(and dogs) wont.


tis that simple

 

[Phat Boy]

Re: Huh????!!!!!!!!

Can't agree with that. In fact, I can't believe you've written that. I'd say there's little/nothing left to your arguments and assertions that hasn't been decisively dealt with.

jwm

says the dude who knows no better

 

[Phat Boy]

uh phat boy.... dont cross that line. Dog attacks are a bad thing especially when it happens to a child.

There are far more than 200 dog bites in Toronto every day.

not that kill and mame people. there are many dog bites a day...that is the point. and 90% of them are NOT from pitt bulls

 

[Tiger Williams]

I made it up to see if any of you were paying attention.

In that case I guess I'll have to admit to being naive enough to assume that you were an honest man. Your excuse for doing it is lame...........and your credibility is shot.
I and others will no doubt note that in your future posts.

 

[KBear]

Know one has opposed education, licensing, and the punishment of bad dog owners/breeders. Like cars, motorcycles and guns there should also be requirements for dogs that can be in public.

Maybe the dog licensing could be similar to the gun licensing.

Small dogs under 10 lbs and cats would be like bb gun and knives, you have to be over 18 to buy them, don’t cause and problems and know one will care.

Medium dogs, maybe 10 to 40 lbs would be like hunting rifles, and require the owner to take a simple course, and require certain restrictions when in public, like to have the dog on a leash.

Larger dogs over 40lbs would be like restricted weapons, like handguns, and require the owner to take a more serious course, and meet with certain qualifications, with more restrictions on the dog when it is in public, like a leash and mussel.

Statistically dangerous dogs, like Pit Bulls, would be like prohibited weapons, and would require the owner to take a very serious course, and meet with many restrictions. Like prohibited weapons that have to be disabled, the practical equivalent with the dog would be to have it stuffed.