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He was better because he had to be. He didn't have the tools he had in the previous years.
I don't think Russell Wilson's skills INSIDE the pocket were this good last year or the year before. He improved a LOT in that dept this year. It was an area he had to work on regardless of other circumstances.
 

mbaileyajc

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Yeah, sure. Whatever you say.
You are amazing man. I never once said team playoff wins. You know you are wrong on this and you just dont wanna admit it. Never said team playoff wins. And you know I didn't.

Performance in playoff games matter more than performance in regular season games. And I don't think Peyton played as well in playoff games as he did in regular season games. I never talked about team playoff wins.
 

mbaileyajc

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Sure, whatever you say, pal.
You said Manning has all the relevant passing records right?

Does he have all the relevant passing records in the playoffs?

That is what I am talking about PAL!!!

Never said anything about PLAYOFF TEAM WINS.

I've tried to be cordial with you and you are trying to put words in my mouth and give me "sure whatever you say pal" responses.

You dodge every question I have for you. You attempt to put words in my mouth. And give me "sure whatever you say pal" responses.

Does anyone else on this thread think I was talking about team playoff wins? Or is it just this guy that thinks that? I certainly never said "team playoff wins"
 

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And I'm not sure how Russell Wilson is relevant in a thread about Peyton Manning.

He was better because he had to be. He didn't have the tools he had in the previous years.
Just because you have to be better at something doesn't mean you will.

If a cheetah is chasing me to kill me then I HAVE to be faster to get away from him. Doesn't mean I will be faster than the cheetah.
 

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By "only criteria", do you mean his playoff record? That is what I had assumed.
Correct.

Seeing as PM clearly dominates almost every single stat and has an unprecedented 5 MVPs the only knock that the Brady lovers could hold against him was the 1-2 SB record. So now that criterion has taken a hit.

BTW, I have never, ever heard any professional TV or mainstream media analyst be so dogmatically in favour of Brady being such a clear cut choice as GOAT. Every single one calls it a close race and you can count that as my opinion as well. Nobody with a shred of objectivity can call it as one QB being so much better than the other just because his TEAM and ORGANIZATION has won more championships.
 

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Correct.

Seeing as PM clearly dominates almost every single stat and has an unprecedented 5 MVPs the only knock that the Brady lovers could hold against him was the 1-2 SB record. So now that criterion has taken a hit.
Yeah, even after his first SB win his critics still wouldn't leave him alone. However, the fact is that he and his team couldn't get past round one nine times. Hopefully, the second SB win will silence his critics.

Question: Who would you want as your QB if there is one must win game? (I would pick Joe Montana.)
 

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Fascinating articles, really makes you wonder about the way players are presented versus who they actually are.
Back in the good old days, people only care about what players did on the field but now players are under the microscope 24/7. Example: Ray Rice is virtually unemployable. I feel sorry for his wife who is no longer accustomed to a husband bringing home a million dollar paycheque.
 

gcostanza

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Back in the good old days, people only care about what players did on the field but now players are under the microscope 24/7.
Jameis Winston's career seems to be progressing just fine.
 
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