Ont. boy killed by train

[Carvher]

Because unless you see the train coming, you are dead.

Google "railway earth shake"
Or "railway noise and vibration"
Or" train vibration issues"
Or "railway induced ground vibration"
All studies done on this topic are not to determine if there is noise and vibration. That's a given. Purpose is to mitigate damage and complaints. I read a few which were very boring. They also do them to determine distance hospitals should be from tracks as train vibration is found out to be detrimental to heart rate and health.
Google "train vibration on heart health"
Many studies to read. 1 concluded"freight trains provoke HR accelerations during sleep, and the VIBRATION characteristics of the trains are of special importance. In the long term, this may affect cardiovascular functioning"
The noise and vibration caused by trains are not only real but it is an issue. Noise and what is referred to as "ground shake" is much worse the closer you are to the track and yes the ground does shake. Anyway, i don't expect you to read stuff you wont agree with but its there if you want to learn.
To summarize, trains are not silent and they do create ground vibrations.
Freight trains are measured at ;
76 vdb at 200 ft.
82 vdb at 100 ft.
88 vdb at 50 ft.
Perception at 65 vdb and annoyance starts at 70. Above info from Southwest's "vibration fact sheet". This is a railways data so you can probably add a few vdb.
Fyi. The link u had in 1 of your above posts from "popular science" was a puff piece. You should have figured that out.

 

[MONTYY]

Keep in mind at 60MPH it takes just over 2 seconds to travel 200 feet.

 

[Travelman123]

I had to walk to elementary school crossing the track 4 times each school day. 200 school days x 4 x 8 grades.
The exception is that if I timed it right I got a ride on a Speeder part way.
Three of us climbed up into a steam locomotive and shoveled coal into the firebox.
On many occasions a train would come along. I would simply get out of the way.
I made sure that the engineer knew I knew he was coming along.
I never came close to an incident. The CP mainline was very busy in those days.

I am so old, all of my stories are true.

T123

 

[Carvher]

vibrations would be perceptible before that. You will hear it long before that. Have you not been in your car at the tracks after the arm goes down. Next time, open your window and turn off your radio. You will see. Also you only have to take 1 or 2 steps to get out of the way. Also those vdb measurements are what you feel on the ground, not on the actual track. Those measurements are for annoyance distances. If your actually on the track, you would feel it earlier. I can't believe how few people on this board have any experince walking on tracks or living near tracks. Shocking really.

 

[Carvher]

Yes, easy to get out of the way. Thank you. Somebody who has actually walked on tracks.

 

[Carvher]

Yes, interesting you said you would make sure he knew you saw him. That way he doesnt honk the horn. I would wave as well if I thought he could see me but ussually i was off track way before he got anywhere close.

 

[shack]

Yes, easy to get out of the way. Thank you. Somebody who has actually walked on tracks.

He did not say because he heard the train or felt it. He knew the timing and was looking for it.

 

[shack]

Yes, easy to get out of the way. Thank you. Somebody who has actually walked on tracks.

So are you saying that the story those news people did was fake? They walked the track and couldn't hear or feel it.

 

[Carvher]

So are you saying that the story those news people did was fake? They walked the track and couldn't hear or feel it.

Hate to break it to you buddy, but a lot of what you read is not the truth. It's a cruel reality. Surprised your parents didn't teach that to you when you were young. Not surprised you piped in as you do with every thread even though you have no real life experience to add. You are just one of the many Cliff Clavens on this site.

 

[Carvher]

He did not say because he heard the train or felt it. He knew the timing and was looking for it.

He did say he got out of the way. Read it again.

 

[redshank]

Man

I think this pandemic is really getting to people.

People are really pissy these days

 

[GameBoy27]

Keep in mind at 60MPH it takes just over 2 seconds to travel 200 feet.

Except they typically don't go that fast. In 2018, Canada's freight trains traveled with an average speed of around 38 kilometers per hour.

I don't believe for a second you can't hear an approaching freight train. For starters, they have one or more 4,000 HP diesel electric engines driving them. The sound level of the air horns is between 96 and 110 decibels. The only reason you may not hear one is if you're walking on the tracks with a head wind and the train is coming up from behind you.

There's a set of track about a kilometer behind my cottage. My wife and I follow the trails through the bush to them a few times each summer. We've stood beside the tracks when a train has gone by and you can definitely hear it approaching.

 

[MONTYY]

Except they typically don't go that fast. In 2018, Canada's freight trains traveled with an average speed of around 38 kilometers per hour.

I don't believe for a second you can't hear an approaching freight train. For starters, they have one or more 4,000 HP diesel electric engines driving them. The sound level of the air horns is between 96 and 110 decibels. The only reason you may not hear one is if you're walking on the tracks with a head wind and the train is coming up from behind you.

There's a set of track about a kilometer behind my cottage. My wife and I follow the trails through the bush to them a few times each summer. We've stood beside the tracks when a train has gone by and you can definitely hear it approaching.

Trains carrying freight are currently allowed to travel at speeds of up to 70 mph or 80 mph, but unloaded many trains generally only travel from 40-50 mph. Interesting, I was not aware loaded trains travel at higher speeds.

 

[bazokajoe]

Its illegal to walk on a track
Not to mention an utter lack of common sense
Kid was 13 not 3 he should have a brain in his head

Railway crossing facts and tips

Infosheets, Transport Canada -Infosheets

tc.canada.ca

Not illegal if you are Native and burning tires.

 

[shack]

He did say he got out of the way. Read it again.

I think, no, I know you need to reread. He did not say that he heard or felt it, only that he got out of the way. He was very familiar with the train's routine. He crossed the track 4 times every day.

I had to walk to elementary school crossing the track 4 times each school day. 200 school days x 4 x 8 grades.
On many occasions a train would come along. I would simply get out of the way.

This post does not disprove Kirk's assertion.

 

[GameBoy27]

Trains carrying freight are currently allowed to travel at speeds of up to 70 mph or 80 mph, but unloaded many trains generally only travel from 40-50 mph. Interesting, I was not aware loaded trains travel at higher speeds.

Speeds are determined by the track class. I've never seen a freight train traveling anywhere close to 80 MPH before. Like I said, the average is 24 MPH.

 

[shack]

Hate to break it to you buddy, but a lot of what you read is not the truth. It's a cruel reality. Surprised your parents didn't teach that to you when you were young. Not surprised you piped in as you do with every thread even though you have no real life experience to add. You are just one of the many Cliff Clavens on this site.

I know the idiotic play. Whatever you don't agree with you label as fake.

Since you are so smart and astute, please tell what, in their video clip, gave away that it was fake? What mistake did they make that you were able to see through? Please teach us so we can be a Sherlock Holmes like you?

 

[Carvher]

Except they typically don't go that fast. In 2018, Canada's freight trains traveled with an average speed of around 38 kilometers per hour.

I don't believe for a second you can't hear an approaching freight train. For starters, they have one or more 4,000 HP diesel electric engines driving them. The sound level of the air horns is between 96 and 110 decibels. The only reason you may not hear one is if you're walking on the tracks with a head wind and the train is coming up from behind you.

There's a set of track about a kilometer behind my cottage. My wife and I follow the trails through the bush to them a few times each summer. We've stood beside the tracks when a train has gone by and you can definitely hear it approaching.

Yes, thank you, somebody with actual real life experience.

 

[TeeJay]

Not illegal if you are Native and burning tires.

Native is like diplomat; they are not covered by laws like those

 

[nottyboi]

Captain Kirk. You have been away to long in senile quadrant where there is no noise. Bring the enterprise back to earth. You will be fine. We have safe spaces now. You never answered my question. I knew you wouldn't because you havent been in our solar system. Google noise comparisons. Purdue has a chart there which is good for aliens not accustomed to our planet.
Frieght train at 50 ft is 80 db.
Deisel train at 100 ft. is 83 db.
Garbage disposal is 80 db.
80 db is twice as loud as 70.
A vacuum cleaner is 70.
Arguing with somebody who cant hear a train is not worth my while anymore.
You need to come back to earth, and actually live your life with ur feet on the ground rather than in front of your computer believing crazy shit you read on the internet.

Ok so that means it is 63 DB at 300 feet which is like the inside of a very quiet car, and its only about 2.5 seconds from smashing into you.