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Only Three Months Left For Planet Earth( and other false doomsday predictions)

Frankfooter

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You are full of shit! I begin to believe that you have a conflict of interest when come to global warming.
I believe in the science of vaccines!
I believe that Iraq war by Bush / mainstream media was wrong and help pushed the fake WMD lied to the public and help shaped the public opinion for the war in IRaQ.
9/11 was caused and plan by Osama bin laden and he even told credit for it!
I believe when IRan when elected democratic by the people IRAN in 1953 and then the CIA overthrow the elected democratic government and help install shah of Iran was wrong !!! Also believed the present day IRan government is evil also!
Also believe Israel and PLO parties both have blood in their hand and both parties are arch enemy of each other and will both never make peace! The only way the PLO and Israel will have peace is when one of them kill all of them of!! That the sad truth !!

Unfortunately in today world whoever is stronger will always be right and that If the shoe happen the to be the end each parties will treated each no different to each other. Might make is right" .
You believe in vaccines?
I'd respect the rest of what you said more if I could really believe that statement.
 

Frankfooter

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180 arsonists arrested in Australia. These fires were not caused by warmer weather:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...3/news-story/52536dc9ca9bb87b7c76d36ed1acf53f

EDIT: canada-man beat me to it
So you're saying not only are humans stupid enough to cause global warming and turn Australia into a tinderbox but that some Australians even stupider and started a tiny few of the hundreds of fires that have now burned the equivalent of Switzerland in land?

Or is this you trying to deny that climate change has occurred at all and to claim that this year's fires are entirely the blame of a few arsonists?
Good luck on that line.

Did you see the latest data on Antarctic Ice melts?

 

Ginomore

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So you're saying not only are humans stupid enough to cause global warming and turn Australia into a tinderbox but that some Australians even stupider and started a tiny few of the hundreds of fires that have now burned the equivalent of Switzerland in land?

Or is this you trying to deny that climate change has occurred at all and to claim that this year's fires are entirely the blame of a few arsonists?
Good luck on that line.

Did you see the latest data on Antarctic Ice melts?

The key word on your graph is “simulated”.
 

bver_hunter

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As usual your full of shit!! Your the one brainwash in pseudoscience of climate change ( aka global warming), I look it the pro and cons of global warming ( rebranded as climate change) and realized in all pseudoscience. I used to believe passionately about global warming until ... I looked at both pro and cons of global warming and came to a conclusion is pseudoscience.
Just like this famous Nobel prize winning scientist also came to the same conclusion also, Professor Ivar Giaever, the 1973 Nobel Prizewinner for Physics trashes the global warming/climate change/extreme weather pseudoscientific clap-trap and tells Obama he is "Dead Wrong".
This was the 2012 meeting of Nobel Laureates.
The 2015 speech by Prof Giaever is here
Here the link -->. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM

All the the computer model of climate change have been incorrectly wrong or been cherry picked and or adjusted to fit the model. All the climate change prediction like Arctic ice cap will be ice free in the summer by 2013 then moved the goal post 2014 or part of Manhattan will be underwater by 2015 or Maldives island will be underwater by 2018 . All their prediction is incorrect and none of it come true.


Climate alarmist always moved the goal post when none of their prediction come true.
Like above post world will come to end on 2020 and now they moved the goal post to 2030.. Then when that predict don't come true they will moved the goal post further in the future.
So have the Arctic Ocean ( North Pole ) became ice free yet!!!

You are full of shit! Open your eyes!! Look at the pro & cons and then make up your own mind!!
Hubris of climate alarmist scientists will destroy mankind trust in science. Science is base on facts not cherry picking or pseudoscience like this famous Nobel scientist ( "Professor Ivar Giaever") said.

PS. In the past I learned how Wall Street lies & and bond agencies helped created fraud they rated mortage as AAA and bank lend money/ mortage to people who had no jobs or income which caused the last Great Recession in 2008 in USA and crashed the housing. That why I always look at the pro and cons of both arguments and then make my conclusion.

PPS Are you fucking blinded by the politics !!! Left vs right politics! I think it very sad and extremely disturbing that science have been hijacked by politics!!
You are full of crap and should stick to porn, as you cannot go wrong there. First you cornered yourself by supporting Ginomore who was clueless what were the implications of stating that the "Average Temperature" was being Cherry Picked. Of course you cannot understand the mathematics if you take the average based on the start of the records. ie from 1910. That would have meant that the warm up would have been more severe.

Now you post some bullshit about the PHYSIC NOBEL LAUREATE who is not an EXPERT on CLIMATE and THE SCIENCE behind it. Those experts are CLIMATOLOGISTS. Maybe now you get it. Ginomore admitted that he spent just HALF A DAY on "GOOGLE" to study Climate and the Science behind it. Ridiculousness at it's heights, if you ask me:

"I am not really terribly interested in global warming. Like most physicists I don't think much about it. But in 2008 I was in a panel here about global warming and I had to learn something about it. And I spent a day or so - half a day maybe on Google, and I was horrified by what I learned. And I'm going to try to explain to you why that was the case."
That quote comes from a presentation Giaever gave to the 62nd Meeting of Nobel Laureates in 2012, for some unknown reason on the subject of climate change. As Giaever notes at the beginning of his talk, he has become more famous for his contrarian views on global warming than for his Nobel Prize, which have made him something of a darling to the climate contrarian movement and climate denial enablers.

In this post we will examine the claims made by Giaever in his talk, and show that his contrarian climate opinions come from a position of extreme ignorance on the subject, as Giaever admits. Giaever personifies the classic stereotype of the physicist who thinks he understands all scientific fields of study:



Accuracy of the Surface Temperature Record - In his talk, Giaever spent a lot of time criticizing Al Gore and Rajendra Pachauri (IPCC chairman) for winning the Nobel Peace Prize for - according to Giaever - 'making the global surface temperature record famous':



Giaever proceeded to question the accuracy of the surface temperature record, ultimately asking:

"How can you measure the average temperature of the Earth? I don't think that's possible."

Unfortunately this simply displays an ignorance regarding the surface temperature record, whose accuracy has been confirmed time and time again, and which is also consistent with lower troposphere temperature measurements, as illustrated in the above graph.

Glenn Tramblyn has answered Giaever's question in great detail in his four part series Of Averages & Anomalies, and Kevin C also had an excellent and detailed post on recent temperature measurements in The GLOBAL global warming signal. The answers to these questions are out there for those who are willing to spend more than a few hours on Google searches, and it is not constructive to give presentations on subjects without first doing such basic research. We are again left wondering why Giaever was asked to give a presentation to Nobel Laureates on a subject on which he has no expertise and has not done even the most basic research.

The Significance of the Observed Global Warming
Giaever also disputed the significance of the measured 0.8°C average global surface warming over the past 130 years, comparing it to a human fever and the temperature at which he had to maintain tissue for cell growth during his own biophysical experiments, also showing the following slide:



Giaever does not seem to know how to put the observed 0.8°C global surface temperature change in proper context. It may sound small in comparison to the absolute global temperature in Kelvin, or in comparison to changes in human body temperatures, but it is a very large change in global surface temperature, especially over a period as brief as 130 years.



Eight records of local temperature variability on multi-centennial scales throughout the course of the Holocene, and an average of these (thick dark line) over the past 12,000 years, plotted with respect to the mid 20th century average temperature. The global average temperature in 2004 is also indicated.

In addition to this rapid surface warming, the global oceans have also been accumulating heat at an incredible rate - the equivalent of more than two Hiroshima "Little Boy" atomic bomb detonations per second, every second over a the past half century. Presumably a physicist of Giaever's stature would appreciate the magnitude of this global energy accumulation.

As a physicist, Giaever should also understand that seemingly small objects and quantities can have large effects, but instead he seems to rely on incorrect "common sense" perceptions which are based on ignorance of the subject at hand.

I can go on and on. In other words you buy all the nonsense from people who do not have a clue, because they may try to be a jack of all trades, but in reality they maybe the master of one and in this case it is definitely NOT CLIMATE CHANGE!!
 

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After the 1939 fires in Australia, there was a commission set up to study what happened and what could have been done differently.

The fires were man-made
There was a long drought followed by extreme heat
Almost the entire state of Victoria appeared to be on fire on January 13
It was dark as night at midday
The amount of controlled burning was “ridiculously inadequate”

https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-52798639/view?partId=nla.obj-95601640#page/n10/mode/1up


Two days earlier was the hottest day on record in Melbourne, Canberra and Adelaide.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/68533670/6691547#
 

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Australian Police Catch Two Dozen Alleged Firestarters as Bushfires Burn

As flames consume massive swaths of Australia, New South Wales police announced Monday that they have arrested two dozen people for intentionally setting bushfires. At least 19 people have died and more than 2,000 homes have been damaged or destroyed by blazes that have scorched 4.9 million hectares of land in New South Wales this season. Police said that in addition to the arson cases, they have found a lot of carelessness. Fifty-three people allegedly failed to comply with the total fire ban, and 47 people were accused of tossing a lighted cigarette or match on the ground. Some offenders could face up to 25 years in prison for property damage, life endangerment, and manslaughter.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/austr...restarters-as-bushfires-burn?via=twitter_page
 

Frankfooter

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Australian Police Catch Two Dozen Alleged Firestarters as Bushfires Burn
Hey CM, do you know the total number of fires in Australia this fire season vs the number you think were lit by arsonist?
Care to give us the stats, or is that too embarrassing for you?

Would you like me to do it?
 

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You believe in vaccines?
I'd respect the rest of what you said more if I could really believe that statement.
Let me rephrase my statement on vaccine!

I believe some vaccine are safe and not all vaccine are safe!!
Here my reason:

IF YOU Believe ALL VACCINES ARE SAFE BECAUSE SOMEBODY ON THE NEWS SAID SO... That is insane !!

It’s amazing how many people still believe vaccines are safe, even when the federal government itself publishes vaccine damage statistics and details of the billions of dollars in payouts that have been made to the families of vaccine-damaged children. You can download the data yourself at VAERS.HHS.GOV. ---> Link https://vaers.hhs.gov/


Yes, the CDC openly admits vaccines contain neurotoxic substances such as formaldehyde, mercury, squalene and aluminum. There is no debate that vaccines carry risk of harm and manage to harm a great number of children each year, yet many American adults who consider themselves to be “informed” have no clue of this reality.


I believe that vaccines do more good then harm for the vast majority of the people. Vaccine is not perfect. For the minority or the unlucky few who taken vaccine and had dangerous side effect which harm the health I feel sorry for them . No drug or vaccine are perfect.


Also believe that not all vaccine are safe!!

So here my believe in vaccine everybody should be informed the risk / potential side effect( positive or negative ) when come taking any vaccine or any drug.
And I believe if you are fit & healthy you should have a choice to take are not take vaccine.
I not blindly follow any scientists / Doctor advice. I seek second or third opinion when it come to my health and check medical literature . I look at the pro & con then I make the decision to take the vaccine or drug.
 

canada-man

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Nearly 200 People Arrested In Australia For Deliberately Lighting Bushfires

State authorities in Australia have arrested nearly 200 people for alleged arson since the devastating bushfires began.

A total of 183 people have been arrested by police across the states of Queensland, New South Wales (NSW), Victoria, South Australia, and Tasmania since November for 205 bushfire-related offences, local media reports.

In NSW, 24 were apprehended and charged with deliberately lighting bushfires. A further 53 people are facing legal action for allegedly failing to comply with a total fire ban, while 47 others are accused of improperly discarding a lit cigarette or match outdoors, according to the Nine network.

In Queensland, police concluded that 103 fires had been deliberately lit, with 98 people—67 of them juveniles—having been identified as the culprits.

Devastating bushfires have ravaged Australia in recent months, killing at least 25 people and destroying hundreds of millions of animals and livestock. Over 2,000 homes have been destroyed by the blazes, which have so far burned through more than 5.25 million hectares (13 million acres) of land, an area twice the size of the U.S. state of Maryland.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/nearl...-deliberately-lighting-bushfires_3195827.html
 

Phil C. McNasty

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This will be Thunberg when she turns 18





 

Frankfooter

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Let me rephrase my statement on vaccine!

I believe some vaccine are safe and not all vaccine are safe!!
Here my reason:

IF YOU Believe ALL VACCINES ARE SAFE BECAUSE SOMEBODY ON THE NEWS SAID SO... That is insane !!

It’s amazing how many people still believe vaccines are safe, even when the federal government itself publishes vaccine damage statistics and details of the billions of dollars in payouts that have been made to the families of vaccine-damaged children. You can download the data yourself at VAERS.HHS.GOV. ---> Link https://vaers.hhs.gov/


Yes, the CDC openly admits vaccines contain neurotoxic substances such as formaldehyde, mercury, squalene and aluminum. There is no debate that vaccines carry risk of harm and manage to harm a great number of children each year, yet many American adults who consider themselves to be “informed” have no clue of this reality.


I believe that vaccines do more good then harm for the vast majority of the people. Vaccine is not perfect. For the minority or the unlucky few who taken vaccine and had dangerous side effect which harm the health I feel sorry for them . No drug or vaccine are perfect.


Also believe that not all vaccine are safe!!

So here my believe in vaccine everybody should be informed the risk / potential side effect( positive or negative ) when come taking any vaccine or any drug.
And I believe if you are fit & healthy you should have a choice to take are not take vaccine.
I not blindly follow any scientists / Doctor advice. I seek second or third opinion when it come to my health and check medical literature . I look at the pro & con then I make the decision to take the vaccine or drug.
That's more honest at least.
Unfortunately the anti-vaxxers like you are responsible for the return of measles.

Medicine, like the rest of science, tests how safe vaccines are.
Just like climatology checks their work as well.

Anti science people are dangerous.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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A Liberal Aussie MP says current fires have nothing to do with climate change, and has data from scientists to back up his claim:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/40...aig-kelly-rejects-climate-change-behind-fires

Australian politician Craig Kelly rejects climate change behind fires

Appearing on ITV's Good Morning Britain, Kelly was grilled by outspoken British host Piers Morgan, who introduced him as a "climate change sceptic".

Kelly nodded along during the introduction.

"You believe this has nothing to do with climate change, explain that," Morgan began.

Kelly replied: "Well Piers, you have to look at science and what our scientists are telling us ... what causes the fires is the build-up of fuel load and the drought."
 

Frankfooter

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bver_hunter

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A Liberal Aussie MP says current fires have nothing to do with climate change, and has data from scientists to back up his claim:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/40...aig-kelly-rejects-climate-change-behind-fires
Where does he state that he has the data?? All he is doing is making a random statement that:

Kelly replied: "Well Piers, you have to look at science and what our scientists are telling us ... what causes the fires is the build-up of fuel load and the drought."
Does not state what data and which "Scientists" are providing him this "data"!!

By the way I am not too sure if you realize that he is a member of the ruling Liberal Party of Australia. It is a right wing Conservative party and is the equivalent of the Conservative Party of Canada, and not the Liberal Party. They merged with the more far right party called The National Party!!
 

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Glacier National Park is replacing signs that predicted its glaciers would be gone by 2020

The signs at Glacier National Park warning that its signature glaciers would be gone by 2020 are being changed.
The signs in the Montana park were added more than a decade ago to reflect climate change forecasts at the time by the US Geological Survey, park spokeswoman Gina Kurzmen told CNN.
In 2017, the park was told by the agency that the complete melting off of the glaciers was no longer expected to take place so quickly due to changes in the forecast model, Kurzmen said. But tight maintenance budgets made it impossible for the park to immediately change the signs.
The most prominent placards, at St. Mary Visitor Center, were changed last year. Kurzmen says that park is still waiting for budget authorization to update signs at two other locations.

But the glacier warning isn't being removed entirely, she told CNN. Instead, the new signs will say: "When they will completely disappear depends on how and when we act. One thing is consistent: the glaciers in the park are shrinking.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/08/us/g..._source=twCNN&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social
 

Frankfooter

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Glacier National Park is replacing signs that predicted its glaciers would be gone by 2020
OMG!

A park's signs were wrong, CanadaMan has proven that climate change is a scam.

Oh, 2019 was the second warmest year on record.
The last 5 the warmest 5 ever.
The last 10......
 

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OMG!

A park's signs were wrong, CanadaMan has proven that climate change is a scam.

Oh, 2019 was the second warmest year on record.
The last 5 the warmest 5 ever.
The last 10......
You are so full of shit!
OMG.. Manhatten underwater yet?
Arctic ice cap melt yet? Article ice cap is ice free yet?
 
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