Olivia Chow...Mayor?
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fuji I would never try and convince you. if i had olivia chow come to your house and admit it. you wouldn't believe it.
you were a kid when this happened and so you don't know. guess what - everything wasn't on the internet then.
How long were they paying below market value? Was it purely voluntary when they started to pay market value or was there another factor partially or wholly involved?
That's just typical, you all drink the cool aid then try to force your views and opinions on the rest of us
They had been living in the coop for years, and for most of that time fit the income profile. What happened is they got elected and started earning council salaries. They probably should have upped their payments earlier, but really how many people think like that--you just continue living as you were. At some point it dawned on them that they should pay more, and they volunteered to up their payments.
So again, you don't have any reasons for the things you think. You should have just said that up front -- that this was just another one of your made up jokes, and nothing connected to facts or to reality.
I mean, considering HOW MUCH has been written on this subject, considering it was investigated and they were cleared by the city solicitor, and considering how many reams of news print wound up being devoted to it -- you would think that an outrageous claim like yours would have been documented somewhere along the way. Clearly... it's just not something you picked out of any legitimate source, more like, you picked it out of your nose.
The apartment was rented in the mother's name. Are you sure Olivia and Jack's income was ever part of the reported income profile to qualify for government housing? Or did they hook Olivia's mother up with the apartment and just move in under the radar. At least until the Star questioned them about it.
Yes. When Layton first moved into the co-op, he moved into his own unit, on his own merits. Chow and her mother were already living there in another unit. When Chow and Layton eventually got married, they all moved into a single unit together.
I would point out that the lunatic right want to promote this smear without having to provide any proof of their own. They demand that Chow/Layton prove they didn't do anything wrong. And then they turn around and, despite all the circumstantial evidence exorciating Rob Ford, say that he is innocent until proven guilty.
The hypocrisy of some people is just hilarious.
Look up there at red, demanding that we just believe all his bullshit because he "remembers" it, but he doesn't feel compelled to prove any of the smear. It's bullshit from top to bottom.
The City Solicitor did a detailed investigation into the whole affair at the time and came back and said Chow and Layton had done nothing wrong. That should have closed the case, except that the idiots on the right can never let go of a good smear once it's running. Facts don't mean anything to them.
So, Jack as city councilor since 1982 hooked his girlfriend Olivia and her mother up in a subsidized suite in 1985, then he moved into his own subsidized suite in the same building that same year. They liked the location so much, that after being married in 1988, they moved into a 3 bedroom suite in the same building paying $800 per month. Sweet deal.
Meanwhile other people wait for years to move into subsidized housing somewhere in the city. Good they were all able to find subsidized apartment building that was downtown, and short bike ride for Jack to amenities.
Facts
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Pretty much confirms they paid only $800/mth until caught, then "volunteered" to raise it by $325/mth.
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You are always the apologist for politicians.
You've been making excuses for Ford and now you're doing it again.
At least I will say that you are consistent in how you view indiscretions by politicians.
Horse shit.
They knew exactly what they were doing and they knew it was wrong. Thy only volunteered to up their payments when they got caught. Besides, the optics on the whole thing were really bad.
I remember Layton saying that he wanted to live in Co-op housing so that they knew first hand what kind of life their constituents lived.
Well, if that was the case, why not rent an apartment on the open market, or better yet, buy a house and have mortgage. See how it feels to be in debt up to you eye balls and have to pay property taxes and utility bills and maintenance on a place. To my line of thinking, that would be the best way to experience what your constituents have to put up with. Not by living in subsidized housing.
When Layton moved in, he paid the full non subsidized rate from day one for his unit.
Things only got iffy when he moved into Chow's unit after they got married, until they raised the rate voluntarily, which they did without getting "caught".
