No Deal Got Done--Vladdy Going to Free Agency
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I don't think the Jays blew it. Vladdy has been a Jay for 6 yrs already. It's not like Vladdy is some hot shot rookie!!
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IMHO, Vladdy will be gone, even if he has a bad year!! Very few free agents want to come to Toronto, or re-sign with Toronto!! Due to the fact that MLB has no salary cap, every decent free agent, will either sign with the Mets, Dodgers, Yankees or Red Sox!!
Because, unlike the Mets, they Jays are not willing to pay what it takes even though Rogers is one of the richest owners and/or Shatkins doesn't know how to spend the money wisely and/or they've developed the 5th worst farm system in MLB and/or they are so disliked and/or untrusted that they can't attract free agents.
Aside from that small detail they could have a good team.
Don't forget, Rogers has to play players in US dollars, while they earn their revenue in cdn dollars!! Like I said upthread, the Jays will a 500 team this yr, at best, and signing vladdy to a long term contract, will be a waste of money for the Jays!!
Thanks for the breaking news. When did this happen? This cut the rug out from under them.
In that case, Rogers is still one the very wealthiest owners. Maybe you're going to tell us another reason they couldn't sign him is because the Jays have one of the largest markets and fan bases all to themselves.
Maybe Shatkins is pissed at all the criticism he's received and is giving a fuck you back to the fans. He's taking a scorched earth policy to the team on his way out. It will take years to recover.
No, because it's not worth signing Vladdy to a 12 fawken yr $480 million plus contract......LMAO
It was a terrible move that they will regret.
Rogers has more than enough money, if for no other reason than to pay the fans back for their loyalty. This is not a popular move and will cost them.
I'd bet that some team will give him a more lucrative contract next off-season. They could have got him after the 2023 season for under $350M. They fucked up.
I don't think Rogers cares. Vladdy doesn't have the type of body that can last in MLB for 12 more yrs. Vladdy has too much propensity to put on a lot of weight!! OK for Rogers to sign Vladdy to a 2 or 3 yr contract extension, but to sign Vladdy to a 12 yr contract extension is ridiculous!!
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David, Ortiz, Tony Gwynn, etc. etc. etc. Guerrero is going to be just fine. IMHO this franchise has made a humongous mistake. Giving Guerrero some solid protection in the lineup. Now he can actually look for his pitch and not take stupid chances. This season will tell us the story.
On the flipside, the Blue Jays front office could be waiting and seeing if the Guerrero ends up putting up numbers and might give them fair market value into a full-fledged bidding war if he deserves it. Maybe these idiots are banking on the fact that he wants to play in Toronto. Maybe this was Mark Shapiro‘s last order of business to save Rogers some unnecessary spending that they just don’t know the answer to yet and then if Guerrero has a good year, they can pin all the blame on Mark Shapiro as he leaves and is replaced. It’s scary to get into a bidding war with the Mets regardless if he ends up having a good year.
Philip
He's improved his body a lot since he first showed up here and has worked hard this off season. He's lost weight every year and has a team of handlers making sure he looks after himself.
Talking about a 2 or 3 year contract means you don't want to have a serious or realistic discussion.
Serious question, seeing as it's "ridiculous" do you think that no teams are going to offer him 10-12 year offers next off-season? The billionaire owners are the ones you seem to praise in other threads as being so smart. Obviously, they wouldn't be so stupid as to make such a ridiculous offer. Why are so many analysts and media saying that the Jays screwed up.
Or maybe it's you who doesn't know what they're talking about.
It seems like a bad and unnecessary gamble to me. They could have signed him for a lot less last year and the price will probably go up a lot more next year. The Jays will end up being the master of their own demise.
I know what I'm talking about. I've been an avid sports fan my whole life!!
I guess Rogers is afraid of getting burned on another George Springer type contract. 6yrs $150 million. Springer has been useless, for the last 2 yrs!!
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Also, the Hyun-Jin Ryu 4yr $80 million contract, that was another total waste of money!!
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A lot of sports analysts predicted that the KC chiefs would win the Super Bowl this yr. Does the fact that the Eagles beat the Chiefs in this yrs super bowl, make the sports analysts who predicted a Chiefs super bowl win stupid??
Or if Vladdy has a bad yr this season, then the Jays would look smart. Look at the awful yr Bo Bichette had last yr. The Jays are looking smart for not signing Bichette to a long term contract!!
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The Steve Cohen video clip interview I posted says so many things. He referred to Guerrero as a good player, as the reporters in the background had a giggle of excitement. All he has to do is check in with Soto and see what a good organization that the Mets are and he is gone, and he will get his money
Philip
Not a valid comparison at all.
Springer was already 30 when he signed with the Blue Jays and still got some good years out of him.
He had reached his peak was just starting the downside of his career. Vladdy is only 25 and still improving.
Which does not mean that you're going to be right every time.
And if that's your main criterion for sports knowledge, you must admit that I know more than you because I can almost guarantee that I've been an avid sports fan for a significant period of time more than you.
It's too early to say, but most likely the number of teams chasing after him after the WS will prove that your opinion of him will not align with reality.
As I type this, it makes me want to ask, what kind of contract do you think he'll get next year? How long and how much will these money smart billionaires want to pay him?
