Need help: Knocked a girl up, need to know my rights

[genintoronto]

I never listen to woman who try to talk to me about sex. You don't have a dick. You get to a certain age and mindset and you get fed up with women judging you for your sexual choices. You don't have a dick. End of story. As this board and this thread illustrates, extremely thoughtful and caring men do extremely risky things for five minutes of pleasure. Most women roll their eyes at men's exploits, but the day we strap a dick on you is the day you make 24 hours worth of dubious choices. Consider yourself enlightened.

Again, this kind of talk is insulting to all men from my point of view. But I guess there are some undeniable advantages in believing that having a dick circumscribes your ability to make choices: such as not having to take responsibility for said choices. "My dick did it! Not me!" Yeah right.

If you knew that you don't want children, and you also know that your dick does all the thinking when it comes to pussy, then what prevented you when there was no pussy around from getting a vasectomy?

 

[Mia.Colpa]

I never listen to woman who try to talk to me about sex. You don't have a dick. You get to a certain age and mindset and you get fed up with women judging you for your sexual choices. You don't have a dick. End of story. As this board and this thread illustrates, extremely thoughtful and caring men do extremely risky things for five minutes of pleasure. Most women roll their eyes at men's exploits, but the day we strap a dick on you is the day you make 24 hours worth of dubious choices. Consider yourself enlightened.

Think of the reverse, you don't don't know what the lady is going through while you're wanting her to abort. You don't have a pussy, end of story. We all get enlightened at times.

 

[STASH]

I'especially when they sniff a meal ticket.

That right they sniff meal ticket...we sniff for pussy.....actually balances itself out in the end

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

Again, this kind of talk is insulting to all men from my point of view. But I guess there are some undeniable advantages in believing that having a dick circumscribes your ability to make choices: such as not having to take responsibility for said choices. "My dick did it! Not me!" Yeah right.

If you knew that you don't want children, and you also know that your dick does all the thinking when it comes to pussy, then what prevented you when there was no pussy around from getting a vasectomy?

I'm a romantic: One day I might want kids.

As for your first paragraph of nonsense, who said I wasn't making choices and taking responsibilities. If I was a deadbeat, I'd say "fuck you, best of luck" to the girl in question. I just want to know my legal rights. Does this bother you or have you projected into me something that bothers you about other people?

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

Think of the reverse, you don't don't know what the lady is going through while you're wanting her to abort.

Actually I do: She's told me many times.

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

That right they sniff meal ticket...we sniff for pussy.....actually balances itself out in the end

Yes, but they don't end up in 18 years of hard labour and child support payments because we chase their pussies.

Unless they choose to. And there's the rub.

 

[genintoronto]

I'm a romantic: One day I might want kids.

As for your first paragraph of nonsense, who said I wasn't making choices and taking responsibilities. If I was a deadbeat, I'd say "fuck you, best of luck" to the girl in question. I just want to know my legal rights. Does this bother you or have you projected into me something that bothers you about other people?

Wanting to know your rights and making sure you're not being manipulated is one thing.

Wanting to emotionally manipulate and shame a woman for sleeping with you and carrying on with the pregnancy is another.

My intervention in this thread was motivated by the later.

 

[Garrett]

I've thought about just about every scenario, which is why many of these righteous posters don't have a clue. Women can scheme, especially when they sniff a meal ticket.

I have been amazed, over and over, how much women can plot for a meal ticket. I have seen some women be masters of manipulation with friends paying the prices for *decades*.

The good news is if she decides to have the child, and you are a negiligent father (seems likely from your behavior), we will have one new stripper on the pole in about 20 years!

 

[Keanu]

If you feel better, great. Otherwise go fuck yourself.

I've been in your position twice. First girl lied about even being pregnant. With the second girl it wasn't mine. Your hand isn't played out yet. Take it day by day. Don't jump to conclusions and stress your balls out. Find out sooner and if it is your kid, make sure the girl does all the necessary appointments so your kid is healthy. No point having a messed up kid right off the bat. Find out sooner rather then later.

You'll be surprised about father hood. I never wanted it but it's the best thing ever.

 

[toughb]

I'll bet this thread will be going when I get up in the morning...

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

I'm sorry to hear the trouble that you may be in Mao. But, I'm in support of some of the other people here in saying that your proposal to mentally manipulate (more or less fuck with the pregnant ladies already fragile brain), would be pretty dispicable if you took that route!

I can understand if you were upset if you were to get an escort pregnant during a visit (assuming of course it was a business transaction) and she refused to get an abortion because she knows you're wealthy. However, this lady that you potentially got pregnant was just a person in the course of your life that you slept with. Unfortunately, she got pregnant and if it is your child you should take responsibility. Who cares if you have to take care of the child for 18 or 24 years? It was your fault and if you have to suffer during that time so be it. In addition, you did mention that you're well off...great for you!! I know some other people in this world that are well off who have had the same situation as you, but they've had the balls to stand up and take responsibility whether they liked it or not.

So step up and be a man about it. Let her make the decision of keeping or aborting the baby on her own. If you think that she's trying to take you for a ride...then hire a lawyer to protect your rights. But why the hell would you want to shame someone and pressure them to abort? That is pretty sick IMO.

By the way, you did talk about morality and people on this board commenting negatively about your behaviour being hypocrits. I don't purport to be 'moral' in any way, but there is a difference between hobbyists (where nobody is hurt and it's more or less a business transaction), and actions where you actually hurt other people (ie. manipulating them and shaming them).

Of course this is none of my business and I'm sure you're going to tell me off for writing this...but again...it's just my 2 cents and you're free to do whatever you want.

Good luck to both you and the lady!!

Again, you're asking me to step up and I may not be the father, ergo you are moralizing. I have stated I will step up, how many times do I need to repeat this. In the meantime, I will do everything I can to get her to abort. I am honest.

 

[Alexis_2]

If you feel better, great. Otherwise go fuck yourself.

Mao, you already know I sympathize with you. But all of the posters who object to your plan of "shaming or cajoling" are right - shame should have no place in whatever you discuss with this girl. And it definitely doesn't sound like the actions of someone who will "step up if ." Being at war with her isn't going to help - you're only going to piss her off. Keep your integrity about you, whatever you do.

 

[SynFolly]

That right they sniff meal ticket...we sniff for pussy.....actually balances itself out in the end

I think that's the point Mao brought up at the begining. The understanding coming accross is that if it's not Mao, she's likely to abort the pregnancy, but if it is his she won't because he has support money. So, if she's manipulating that way, I'd have to say it's fair for him to manipulate back, until they hit the date were there's no turning back.

Doesn't sound like a case where she's come out and said "I want this child, am keeping it, and you may be the father" it sounds more like
"I'm pregnant, can't support a child, but if it turns out to be yours, then yeah, I'll have a kid"

Just what I've observerd of the thread, manipulation happening both sides.

 

[brocko]

Yea, but I had to work my way through all the moralists before someone said it like it is. Funny on a board like this, where apparently no man has ever been in the same pre-dick-ament, right? Haha, people are hilarious.

I was there and now years later my son has graduated from university,has a good job and is a responsible adult. I have no regrets for taking responsibility for that "2 minutes" you refer to. Dealing with his mother is another issue and I have handled that too.
Mao go back to a post you had in May 2006 about bbfs and dude accept those consequences you told others they should avoid .
I can really sense your torn inside and yelling at folks here won't resolve this for you. No matter what course of action you take others have had to make similar decisions. It isn't morality its responsibility.

 

[antaeus]

two things:

all your reviews "I pounded her for 90 minutes" seem B+S, if I were a woman or a homo (no homo).

and

Tarah has been dethroned. You are the new Tarah.

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

Wanting to know your rights and making sure you're not being manipulated is one thing.

Wanting to emotionally manipulate and shame a woman for sleeping with you and carrying on with the pregnancy is another.

My intervention in this thread was motivated by the later.

Well this is where you and a few other people will not like me, because I find it horribly manipulative when a woman takes what is an equal mistake, kicks the man out of the castle, ignores his every protestation, and for her own reasons, and without any input or discussion, decides to have a baby entirely on her own terms. Until you are on the other end of this, and at the mercy of someone you just slept with, you will never understand incredible frustration. But you are a woman, so you don't have to experience this.

I'm not saying abortion is a simple thing for a woman, or that there aren't profound decisions, implications for the women, but in the end, SHE is the DECIDER, not you, and that is very, very frustrating to men. It is the price we pay to have safe and legal abortions and for woman to choose their body's course without being threatened by men, but we can't pretend it's not a very, very unfair reality for the men involved.

 

[5hummer]

It just sucks that if she decides to keep the baby and it is yours -- that the odds are you BOTH have created another potential problem child and ruined everybody's life and the people around you.

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

I think that's the point Mao brought up at the begining. The understanding coming accross is that if it's not Mao, she's likely to abort the pregnancy, but if it is his she won't because he has support money. So, if she's manipulating that way, I'd have to say it's fair for him to manipulate back, until they hit the date were there's no turning back.

Doesn't sound like a case where she's come out and said "I want this child, am keeping it, and you may be the father" it sounds more like
"I'm pregnant, can't support a child, but if it turns out to be yours, then yeah, I'll have a kid"

Just what I've observerd of the thread, manipulation happening both sides.

Thank you. That is exactly the case. In fact, there were lots of tender discussions in the beginning, until it became clear to me that she was clearly interested in the baby while I was the father, not so much when Rolling Stone was the daddy. That's what so many of you judgement hounds don't get: she has her own reasons, and they're as selfish as mine.

 

[hatztowork]

Again, you're asking me to step up and I may not be the father, ergo you are moralizing. I have stated I will step up, how many times do I need to repeat this. In the meantime, I will do everything I can to get her to abort. I am honest.

I can see that you're bluntly honest and I'm not sure if your wording came across incorrectly. However, from my understanding, the issue is that you planned on 'manipulating' the girl to abort whether the child is yours or not. But then you just stated that you would take responsibility if it is yours. I applaud you for that!! So I'm a bit confused...why would it matter if she has the baby or not? Why can't you just leave her alone to make the decision. If it isn't your baby...good for you...no problem at all!! You have zero responsibility...but if it is yours...then you'll step up.

So I'm just trying to understand why you would wanna fuck with the girls mind?

In regards, to the getting a lawyer because you think she's going to hose you. That's a great idea. Although you literally fucked her...find an attorney so you don't get fucked yourself!! I don't know any good ones at this moment but if I come across one I'll be sure to PM you.

 

[Mao Tse Tongue]

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