Munk Debate on Zionism
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Anti-semitism? anti zionism? No... we are anti ethnic cleansing and anti genocide.
But are you not Pro Hamas. If so you are about as anti ethnic cleansing and anti genocide as Paul Bernardo is anti rape
Hamas, as part of its revised 2017 charter, rejected "any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea", referring to all areas of former Mandatory Palestine and by extension, the end of Jewish sovereignty in the region.[3][37][38] Islamic Jihad declared that "from the river to the sea – [Palestine] is an Arab Islamic land that [it] is legally forbidden from abandoning any inch of, and the Israeli presence in Palestine is a null existence, which is forbidden by law to recognize.[39] Islamists have used a version "Palestine is Islamic from the river to the sea".[40]
The 1988 Hamas Charter has been characterized as antisemitic and genocidal.[4][36] The charter holds Jews collectively, extending beyond Israelis, responsible for various global issues, including the two world wars.[7] In an effort to moderate Hamas' public perception, a revised charter was issued in 2017, maintaining the goal of a Palestinian Islamic state to replace what it deems as an illegal and illegitimate Israel.
According to The Economist, referring to Hamas' 1988 charter advocating Israel's eradication and the UN genocide definition, Hamas can be characterized as a genocidal organization. In line with this analysis, "Hamas fighters who burst into Israel on October 7th and killed more than 1,400 Israelis (and other nationalities) were carrying out the letter of their genocidal law
So knowing this I assume you as well as Frankie and his Indian "professor of logic" will in your anti genocide and anti ethnic cleansing views at the very least drop your support of Hamas
Oh who am I kidding, of course not. That would require a degree of intellectual honesty and self knowledge that the terb hate crew don't have.
Typical zionist liar, notahuman.
You quote the Hamas charter yet ignore the next sentence where they say they will accept the two state solution. Likud's charter, on the other hand, just calls for taking all of Palestine. That is incredibly dishonest of you.
20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.
Double speak. War is Peace.
The rejection of a Jewish State in the area, the definition of Zionism, means that the 2nd state cannot be a Jewish one.
As Murray said in the clip, "The Jews are condemned for having a state and they are condemned for not having a state". You perfectly fit his narrative, Geno.
TO be honest, I couldn't be bothered to remember how to spell his name. I do recall hi lecturing people on logic while showing a lack of it, but maybe I remember wrong, I am how do you say, old and senile.
Not at all. You've got it right on.
He's demonstrated with several different well respected and intelligent debaters his inability to comprehend logical points. They understandably all eventually get frustrated with debating someone who is not at their level.
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Of course the whole Norm MacDonald reference makes calling someone a Professor of Logic even sarcastically a bit more rewarding.
It looks like Kautilya's "fan club" AKA mockers is growing. A recent post by bc:
In the meantime, none of our resident terror supporters has been able to refute a single point that Douglas Murray made. All they do is repeat their anti-Semitic lies, thereby reinforcing his point, which is ANTI-ZIONISM=ANTI-SEMITISM.
BTW, Murray's side officially won the debate.
BTW, Murray's side officially won the debate.
I watched the debate. Mehdi Hassan is completely disingenuous. And Gideon Levy wow. The king of self hating Jews.
Murray and his debate partner Natasha Hausdorff won. They were able to change the minds of net 5% of the audience.
Murray and his debate partner Natasha Hausdorff won. They were able to change the minds of net 5% of the audience.
You think in a two state solution that Palestine should be a Jewish state as well?
That's double speak.
There was a time when you argued that Israel was democratic, now you're trying to argue its a Jewish state instead of zionist or democratic.
Now you're being compared to nazis on a daily basis.
You keep pushing that hate speech, gvir.
Keep trying to argue that all Jews back genocide like zionists like you do.
You're lying and you know it.
A poor attempt at a deflection. Please address Murray's comments. You NEVER directly address challenges. You are a coward.
Geno, Geno, Geno. Please address Murray's comments. The Munk debate is the topic of this thread, not your deflections. More cowardice by you.
What is that Geno? You're 10th lame nickname for me? Pathetic. Why do you hate Klaatu so much. He clearly has the best nick for me, but you refuse to credit him. Very disrespectful.
Post a summary, why would I waste 10 minutes of my life watching some zionist on youtube?
30 seconds is all it takes to destroy everything you say.
Would you prefer uncle goebbels?
How about mr child killer?
How about the gaza dietician?
Would you prefer the calorie counter?
Or maybe I'll go with Shazi.
This is what zionism looks like to the world today, Shazi.
