Mr. Trudeau Going Full Adolph

[NotADcotor]

god bless the guys who fought for freedom...

He didn't fight for freedom, well he might have but most of his buds didn't.
People signed up before and during the war for many reasons, and more so they fought, stood their ground, advanced and died for many reason. Freedom isn't one of them.
Social pressure, joining with friends, boredom and adventure [yeah really], a place to be safe during the great depression [for those who were regular force], even King and Country, get in because they figure they would get drafted and wanted to pick their poison [and avoid being sent to the mud] but freedom. No. Loads of reasons, I've read more than a few accounts, freedom never comes up. And that covers who who signed up, never mind those who got in via selective slavery or whatever various countries called it back then.

Also it doesn't make sense. When they brought in prohibition for example, there was no mass demonstration by vets complaining that they fought for nothing, I am sure they were in favor or opposed along with the general population. Ditto for all the other attempts of the government of the time who told people how to live. People like that shit, and soldiers at least professional ones tend to be more authoritarian than most.

Except for Bob, that maternal fornicator was all about freedom.

 

[NotADcotor]

Cos he's 100 years old and has no idea how he might be perceived outside his own ethnic community?

Yuh. There have been ongoing issues about the unit and how it is / should be perceived in Canada since the 1950's.

Folks younger than us are maybe not as aware and make mistakes.

It's getting to the point that I'm the only guy around old enough to actually have gotten drunk with Abe Lincoln and Ulysses Grant and to note their odd body odour and dirty fingernails. Kids these days have no idea!

Unless he is senile he bloody well knows working for literal Hitler doesn't come off well. Come on.

As for your last point, bah humbug, why when Family Guy did their Benjamin Disraeli bit where he looks into the camera and says "You don't even know who am I" I yelled at the TV, know who he is? I fucked his sister. Please.
I used to enjoy hanging out with George Washington, we called him George Boom Boom Washington because he used to play Air Bass going boom boom boom
I used to take my dry cleaning to Thomas Jefferson, even knew his wife Louise
Fond memories of the Adams family.
Used to eat Lasagna with James Garfield.
William H Harrison used to entertain us with songs like She Loves You, Come and Hold My Hand, Yesterday.
My doctor was Franklin Pierce, we were on good terms, I used to call him Hawkeye
So don't even go there dude. I was telling I'm so old jokes back at the Prussian consulate in Siam.

 

[Not getting younger]

Remember that under the present Government we had an unprecedented lockdown for months on end, that affected all the global economies, the Global Supply Chain, Food prices, or more recently the Oil prices and supplies of energies thanks to the Russian Invasion. Both Chretien and harper could not have done anything miraculous to turn things around for Canadians at the wave of a wand. The Governments will always be blamed as we see that with all the nations around the Globe. We have a UK Conservative Government that are implementing fiscally "responsible" policies that only seem to have an effect with higher inflation, food, gas and other commodity prices than Canada. Canada's inflation rate though at 4% is at the lower end of the rung among the G20 Nations!!

True. All Governments can do little about such things. There is also a natural business cycle that is cyclical. and there is only so much any government can do to influence them. To some degree my position is that all of them do some good, some bad.

but there’s a difference between that and . Making bad situations worse.

2008. McGuinty trashing Ontario, Harper getting through it.

Covid.
Relief measure and efforts needed/justifiable.
1) the less fortunate and working class thrown under the bus, litterally, knowingly sacrificed and a paltry, insulting $2,000/month. Thrown about Willy Nilly.

2) Nor were Covid efforts the only insane amount of eye popping debt added. Both before and during and after.

which today, is like throwing gas on inflationary fires. Much like carbon taxes for some, but not all.

And like Ontario today , is going to mean far less flexibility tomorrow, other problems.

Sunny days last forever and $$ grows in trees. Most, the majority of economist expect a recession in the next 12-18 months. What they can’t agree on, is how bad, how long.

Boomers leaving the workforce…

And who knows, what other curveballs ( maybe Russia, Maybe China, maybe the mid east and oil production OPEC)

 

[NotADcotor]

Fake about the villa of V.Zelenskyy’s mother-in-law | Центр протидії дезінформації

❌ The Nigerian publication «PUNCH» published an article that talks about a villa in the Egyptian city of El Gouna, which Volodymyr Zelenskyy's mother-i ...

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It seemed obvious it was a fake, glad to see someone waste their time pointing it out. I mean who the hell buys real estate in Egypt of all places [yeah I am sure there are exceptions but still]

Of course this will do nothing to make buddy question his news sources, probably bleet on about how your information is fake news and believe something that quite frankly just doesn't pass the smell test.

I bet if I put up a web site claiming that Zelenski and TrueDooh had a three way with a duck, he would go full retard on it and share it as truth.

 

[The Oracle]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1706331561254138045

I'm guessing taking acting lessons is a prerequisite

to being in the Liberal Party at this juncture...

 

[NotADcotor]

Ya we did. You just live in an alternate reality. Go ahead, prove me wrong bud

People get killed trying to surrender in all wars, also people get a bit murdery.

However he has proved that there was no "well execute Nazis even if they are no war criminals" thing. The Nazi party was huge. It would involve killing massive amounts of the population, like school teachers.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Also it's kinda hard to prove the absence of something, however do you have evidence that this actually happened. Again not some pissed off soliders going rouge but some systemic plan to kill all Nazis for being Nazis even though they were not war criminals.

I already pointed to some very highly placed Nazi people who lived to old age after the war, Mandrill pointed out that if what you said was true there was be a murder spree that would give Stalin an hard on. The later is I can assure not mentioned in any book I've read on the Nazi era or WWII.

Over and over, people who are completely out ot lunch putting down people who are actually right.

Monarchy, the time is now.

 

[NotADcotor]

There was no evidence presented to show which guards were guilty of anything, they weren't even given a trial, they were just slaughtered.
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Some soldiers were allowed to live, others were given a trial and then executed, and others were just straight up executed style cuz we felt like it. The fact that we allowed some nazi's to live doesn't disprove my argument at all.

They were guards at a fucking death camp found at the scene. They were not killed because they were Nazis, they were killed because they were war criminals. FFS, you are just being obtuse now.

As for your second point, no, we allowed almost all of them to live. Not some.

And again, in war prisoners die, it's unfortunate but there you have it. It wasn't "us" it was a few soldiers going rogue in the stress of or the aftermath of battle. Non Nazis were also killed.

You are completely misrepresenting the reality of the situation.

 

[NotADcotor]

No, they weren't killed trying to surrender, don't try to whitewash it. They were killed intentionally, out of hatred and a desire for revenge. There were more Nazi soldiers executed like this than there were high-ranking officers executed after trial.

Extraordinary evidence? I just gave you evidence of a 50 person massacre. Things like this happened dime-a-dozen during and after the war. I didn't say anything about a systemic plan that is completely beside the point. There was no systemic plan to execute the high-ranking war criminal Nazi's either. Plenty of them made plea-deals and got out of a death penalty.

Fact is, murder sprees of Nazi's was common and not only tolerated, but celebrated. Now, here we are, in the age of Trudeau inviting them to Parliament.

1: That isn't what I said, I said two things, you ignored the second part. Some were killed surrendering, sometimes it's just down to randos getting murdery. It happened to non Nazis also. Like everything else you misunderstand the point I am making.

Also your 50 person massacure has been addressed. If that is all you got, that proves you wrong. We didn't execute Nazis even if they were not war criminals. A few soldiers got murdery on enemy soldiers, shit like that happens. Also they were fucking war criminals, sure there wasn't a trial, but then it was an act of passion and not something "we" did as a matter of course. I mean fuck, if you walk into a room, you see your daughour ripped open and guy above her with a dick dripping in blood and cum, and you kill the bastard, what... oh well there was no trial, so we can't know if he was guilty. What the fuck are you a Nazi?

Did it happen, yes, very rarely, but yes. You at first presented it as something that was policy when you said "We executed Nazis", much like the British executed Indians who burned Widows, which they did, universally, as policy. We pushed back on that, and yet now you claim you never said any thing about it being a systemic plan, you sure as hell implied it.
Now you are saying it was common, a Tuesday, we you present one example. Kinda like the difference between a study and a meta study in science, a few examples... anecdotal evidence isn't.

 

[NotADcotor]

This was commonplace and the Allies didn't bat an eye about it. I'd say that proves a rule. How is what happened in Inglorious Basterds any different? Cuz it's more brutal and fantastical?

One example doesn't prove something is commonplace.
Again anecdotal evidence isn't.
As for the Bastards who arn't fat [yeah baby yeah] they did it to ALL captured prisoners from the start to the end, kill almost all, leave a few with carvings to send a message. Very differing from a few soldiers going nuts.

 

[mandrill]

Unless he is senile he bloody well knows working for literal Hitler doesn't come off well. Come on.

Hitler would like to have a word with you!

 

[The Oracle]

The Hill covering this story as well....Why are we supporting Ukrainian Nazis?.... Trudeau has made Zelenski look terrible here.

 

[mandrill]

Stop crying and try to think clearly through your tears. They were guards at a death camp. There was no evidence any of those particular guards did anything other than guard. I know your emotional so try to sleep it off.

Bullshit. We executed thousands of Nazi's, and it wasn't just on the battlefield. It WAS us. We justified it by not reprimanding any of the soldiers who did it. It was celebrated.

You are living in a fantasy land in which we acted heroically like mythological figures. Sorry kiddo, but that's not how reality works.

Sources, buddy?

Let's see what you claim is evidence.

 

[mandrill]

1) You literally did say that. Why are you lying? We are not talking about those killed by accident while surrendering, we're talking about executions. Stop trying to distract from the point because you have nothing of substance to add.

LMAO! A 50-person massacre isn't enough evidence for you? "A few soldiers got murdery" LOL! What a euphemism. This shit happened all the time. How do you think Nazi POW's were treated? Also, by definition a war-criminal must be tried and convicted. There was no trial. If anything, executing them summarily like that was the war crime.

If you see a guy's dick covered in blood and cum over a dead woman's body, pretty safe bet what happened. If you see Nazi guards at a death camp, where's the evidence they're the one's giving the orders and herding the people into the camps? Dudes could just be on guard duty like any soldier would be. Bad analogy, but not surprising given how emotional you are.

It did NOT happen rarely. It happened A LOT. And it happened with the consent and knowledge of the higher ups. We basically green lighted it. Denial of this is a denial of reality. I did not state or imply it was systematic, that's just you reading into things in your highly hysterical state of mind.

Sources, buddy?

Tarentino movies are not evidence.

 

[The Oracle]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1706295878208626841

Sid Seixeiro nails it...There's no was the PMO didn't know this man was going to be honoured. No way!!

Mr. Trudeau needs to give a full explanation before media questioning. He doesn't have Gerald Butts to blame for this one.

He's embarrassed Canadians in front of the world. Zelenski must be fuming.

Mr.Trudeau should do the right thing and resign. Being the narcissist he is you know he won't.

 

[mandrill]

I already provided a source and you provided none

I provided a lot. I provided a wiki article indicating that there were 8,000,000 Nazis in Germany in 1945 and the Allies gave up even trying to de-indoctrinate them because the task was too difficult. I cut and pasted it.

You came up with a single anecdote about 50 concentration camp guards being killed. How about the other 7,999,950 Nazis in Germany. Did they get killed too?

Did they get prosecuted for war crimes?.....

The answer is "no", isn't it?

 

[mandrill]

That's right. Trudeau's behaviour over the last month, has been nothing short of shocking, embarrassing and unprofessional.

You're hating on the True because he took on your buddy, Modi and you can't handle that.

 

[mandrill]

I don't need to give you all the examples of every execution in WW2. That example was sufficient. None of the soldiers involved in that massacre were punished for it and this stuff happened all the time.
It was literally like a scene from Inglorious Basterds. They left nobody alive in that camp. And literally the whole movie is "a few soldiers going nuts" so it's exactly the same.

So that's 50. Tell us about the others. Get more sources.

 

[Addict2sex]

Justin Trudeau's Nazi Hot Take Flexibility

Warning of "Russian disinformation" after a clear political own goal, Canada's Prime Minister solidifies his status as the world's most nauseating pseudo-intellectual

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Justin Trudeau's Nazi Hot Take Flexibility: Taibbi

MONDAY, SEP 25, 2023 - 07:00 PM
Authored by Matt Taibbi via Racket News,

Let me get this straight:


A year and a half ago, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced a Jewish member of parliament named Melissa Lantsman for standing with “people who wave swastikas.” Lantsman had criticized Trudeau for fanning “the flames of an unjustified national emergency” in response to the “Freedom Convoy” trucker protests. The “swastikas” Trudeau referenced were, as even Snopes conceded, virtually all “pictured on signs as a way of mocking and protesting government restrictions,” comme ça:

By saying Lantsman stood with “people who wave swastikas,” in other words, Trudeau really meant she was standing with “people who called me a Nazi.” He declined to apologize, which of course is his prerogative.

This week, both Trudeau and House of Commons Speaker Anthony Rota are under fire after Rota invited, and Trudeau applauded, a 98-year-old former soldier from the 14th Waffen-SS Grenadier Division named Yaroslav Hunka to attend an address by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky. Rota praised Hunka as a “Canadian hero” from his time fighting the Soviets in World War II when, not that it matters, they were allies to the United States and Canada. Leaving the elderly Hunka out of this for the moment, these politicians could easily have turned up the man’s blogs about joining Hitler’s army, making the applause scene at least approach the max on the cringe scale:

Amid the subsequent outcry, Trudeau squeaked out a handful of sentences that collectively gave off least a faint aroma of apology, though he personally didn’t apologize for anything, and invoked “mistakes were made” phrasing:

It’s extremely upsetting that this happened. The Speaker has acknowledged his mistake and has apologized… This is something that is deeply embarrassing to the Parliament of Canada and by extension to all Canadians… I think particularly of Jewish MPs and all members of the Jewish community, celebrating, um, commemorating Yom Kippur today.

If he’d stopped there, it would have been a merely gross performance. He didn’t, jumping straight from “Yom Kippur today” to:

I think it’s going to be really important that all of us push back against Russian propaganda, Russian disinformation, and continue our steadfast and unequivocal support for Ukraine, as we did last week with announcing further measures to stand with Ukraine in Russia’s illegal war against it.

To recap: Trudeau in a clear act of official disinformation smeared thousands of Canadian protesters as Nazis last year with context-twisting descriptions of a few decidedly un-representative photos.Now, after the Speaker of the House of Commons invited an ex-Nazi to parliament in a planned political act that had to be somewhat representative of the thinking of Trudeau’s Liberal government, the Prime Minister is complaining about “Russian disinformation,” as if that were to blame for this optics Hindenburg. As the CBC put it:

Trudeau warned that this event may fuel Russian propaganda. Russian President Vladimir Putin has claimed the Ukraine conflict is about rooting out Nazis.

Dude, Vladimir Putin didn’t invite a Nazi to parliament, your government did. Do Davosketeers like Trudeau have anything inside, like shame or their own thoughts, or are they just manicured readers of talking points? Sheesh. It’s almost funny, how repugnant these people are.

 

[Addict2sex]

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[poker]

After reviewing the facts…. This is not the hill I am willing to die on. Conservatives. Have at’er. This was an incredibly bone headed move by the speaker of the house… and the PM himself.

Have fun calling him a Nazi sympathizer and supporter… and all the other stuff. Enjoy your time in the sun. Enjoying being right about this one. Know that old Poker is backing you up on this one.