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Francesca22

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Contemplating on whether or not I should make myself available to accommodate gentlemen while in the area, October 15th....


Let me know.
 

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Will you be providing both incalls/outcalls?
 

Francesca22

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Good question!!!


Granted I am not familiar with the extended area, I think in call is the best option. However I would offer out calls in the downtown core... only on the condition that first and last name will be necessary and manditory, along with room number to confirm prior to appointment.

I don't know if things have changed since the last time I was up, with a high level of no shows/cancellations act as a cautionary in even considering outcall. But, it is an option for those who are interested as long as they respect and understand my conditions.

 

gmuoo

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Probably $250-$300/hr for safe-GFE. $300/hr for GFE. Did you use to work with GOE? If you do, then your former employer even did it as low as $225/hr with very advance booking.

Francesca22 said:
Ok, the 15th it is!!!!



Whats the going rate?
 

Francesca22

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No, I have never been affliated with GOE.

I was up once, charging 250...

Advance booking doesn't mean anything *laughing* and really is a sense of false security especially in Ottawa, a known place for no shows/cancellations
 

gmuoo

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Sorry, confused GOE with CUPIDS ... LOL. Haven't been to TO for a while ... But you are an independent now so set your own prices ...

Francesca22 said:
No, I have never been affliated with GOE.

I was up once, charging 250...
 

Francesca22

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I was with "Cupids" when I first started in the industry... however never toured the area with her...

I have only toured as an INDY.
 

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explorer69 said:
That would be the high end for Ottawa. I usually pay $200 for GFE in Ottawa.(both independents and agency) Visitors from Montreal and Toronto often charge more and either have lots of noshows, or cancel tour due to lack of interest. Even those who advertise at higher rates often discount them for last minute bookings. Rachelle from Kingston charges $200 and seems to do well here.
Good points. I did have a high level of frustration with no shows, but also thought the amount would entail a more selective clientelle... however the amount meant nothing *laughing* Met some great guys and sadly- people I wouldn't wish to see at any amount.

So, the floors open.

We have a range from two hundred, to three hundred.

Do we need a poll??

I'm actually giving you a say in dictating my donation. Its of no insult or consequence on which amount you put.

Input is what im interested in

I can come up, without working- I figure if I'm up, I might as well have some fun and willing participants *laughing*
 

gmuoo

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Not sure about the no-shows .. If you ask for a reference from a well known SP or MA to help each other out, then you can probably avoid a whole lot of frustration.

One of the "Luv Sisters" that used to tour Ottawa every month told me that she never had a single no-show during her 2.5 years touring here so it must be some SPs' look or something that are attracting these kind of no-show idots more than others. Wish you luck though.

Francesca22 said:
Good points. I did have a high level of frustration with no shows, but also thought the amount would entail a more selective clientelle... however the amount meant nothing *laughing* Met some great guys and sadly- people I wouldn't wish to see at any amount.

So, the floors open.

We have a range from two hundred, to three hundred.

Do we need a poll??

I'm actually giving you a say in dictating my donation. Its of no insult or consequence on which amount you put.

Input is what im interested in

I can come up, without working- I figure if I'm up, I might as well have some fun and willing participants *laughing*
 

Francesca22

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gmuoo said:
Not sure about the no-shows .. If you ask for a reference from a well known SP or MA to help each other out, then you can probably avoid a whole lot of frustration.

One of the "Luv Sisters" that used to tour Ottawa every month told me that she never had a single no-show during her 2.5 years here so it must be some SPs' look or something that are attracting these kind of no-show idots more than others. Wish you luck though.
*laughing*

If you’re equating a no show with the service provider, perhaps I could understand your statement.

It's one of those questions, like "Do you masturbate???"
Anyone who says "No" is lying, or in some way omitting the truth... it's subjective.

I'm happy for the Luvsisters! But no shows happen to anyone, for any reason-Ottawa is INFAMOUS for it.

It appears by not only my own admition, but that of MANY others.

By rule of thumb;if it's a isolated occurrence- perhaps it is the girl... but when its a well known fact and EVERYONE has that problem- the reflection is not that of anything other then the uncontrollable variable... being, well you know who. :D


*Side note* I don't always agree with the notion of "references" because each persons time together is subjective based on their perception (other then SAFETY related issues-obviously).

I trust my own judgement and don't base much off other peoples opinons unless I've formulated it myself,or can conform from personal experience. I guess on a review board, when thats the basis or foundation of it's existance, each 'opinon' make this what it is- but however backwards it may be to most...I think it works for me. Now, don't think I lost my "blacklist/no show" notes- I'm no fool.

Anyways, I am not interested in the philosophical outlooks of "Cancellations" or No Shows... my Donation isn't the basis of that.

I've come to expect it comes with the territory, for whatever reason.

Back to donations, please
 

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LOL!!! I could be wrong but it seems to always happen to girls with big boobs only just like "Yours Francescaly pair" ... hahahahaha. At least that is what I remember from all the out loud complaints. Well, someone must be jealous about your "gifts" now that I think about it more ... LOL!!!

Francesca22 said:
*laughing*

If you equate a no show with the service provider, perhaps I could understand your statement.

It's one of those questions, like "Do you masterbate" Anyone who says "No" is lying, or in some way ommiting the truth... it's subjective.

I'm Happy for the Luv sisters... but no shows happen to anyone, for any reason- Ottawa is INFAMOUS for it.

It appears by not only my own admition, but that of MANY others.

By rule of thumb... if it's a isolated occurance- perhaps it is the girl... but when its a well known fact and EVERYONE has that problem- the reflection is not that of anything other then what is a un controlled variable... being, well you know who.
 

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gmuoo said:
LOL!!! I could be wrong but it seems to always happen to girls with big boobs only just like "Yours Francescaly pair" ... hahahahaha. At least that is what I remember from all the out loud complaints. Well, someone must be jealous about your "gifts" now that I think about it more ... LOL!!!
*laughing* Only to the most natural of us who take it with grace... *wink*

I do, indeed have large 'gifts'...
 

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Just thought I'd add my two cents...I've been touring here since Feb, and before I came I had so many people telling me not to come because there would be a ton of "no-shows", but I've never had any no-shows...not that I can recall anyways.

I have a great group of guys that I see everytime I visit...Ottawa guys are great!! Give Ottawa a chance..
 

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rachelle of kingston said:
Just thought I'd add my two cents...I've been touring here since Feb, and before I came I had so many people telling me not to come because there would be a ton of "no-shows", but I've never had any no-shows...not that I can recall anyways.

I have a great group of guys that I see everytime I visit...Ottawa guys are great!! Give Ottawa a chance..
more importantly, what are your rates... this isn't a thread of "whether your one or all for no shows"

Dontations are helpful.
 

gmuoo

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Rachelle is $200/hr as someone else has already mentioned. The no-show has very little with rates. All the touring girls I have seen are usually at the $300/hr range or more and I never heard of any no-show complaints from them.

It must be the boobs!!!! You just help us solved the biggest o-town mystery. LOL!!!

Francesca22 said:
more importantly, what are your rates... this isn't a thread of "whether your one or all for no shows"

Dontations are helpful.
 

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gmuoo said:
Rachelle is $200/hr as someone else has already mentioned. The no-show has very little with rates. All the touring girls I have seen are usually at the $300/hr range or more and I never heard of any no-show complaints from them.

It must be the boobs!!!! You just help us solved the biggest o-town mystery. LOL!!!
I have no interest in charging 300 *laughing* I'm sure most get it too...

Yes, bless the explorer... too bad his blurb was at the end, in fine print *wink*

200 is... among the range- for sure *laugh*

I'm gonna do a search... on reports of no shows, or perhaps our seasoned members can chirp in.

Mind you, when I was up last- which was a year and a bit ago- this was an issue, maybe things have changed???? And if so, THEN GREAT! Maybe people have smarten up since Feb of this year *wink*
 

rachelle

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Francesca22 said:
more importantly, what are your rates... this isn't a thread of "whether your one or all for no shows"

Dontations are helpful.

As Gmuoo hs stated my rate for Ottawa is $200/hr..I know that I could easily charge 250-300 and still do well..but even after all travel and hotel expenses are taken care of I am still making good money. I know alot of touring sp's jack up their prices for "travel costs"...I see it like this..while touring you are here to work so you are most likely seeing a few more
gentlemen then while you are at home..which even if you are very successful is most likely alot busier then you are while working at "home"..so you are making more money while touring even after expenses..

Now my touring rate is different in diferent cities..different markets call for different prices

Hope this helps, although I'm sure you will do well no matter what you charge.:)
 

gmuoo

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It is the boobs!!! I am telling you .... you had this problem, Harmony had the same problem, Taylor, Jordon, Kaythrin ..... etc. etc. all had big "heavenly gifts" or big "enhanced gifts". LOL!!! They all had tons of no-shows!!!

I am starting to like you already regardless of the rate ;)

Francesca22 said:
I'm gonna do a search... on reports of no shows, or perhaps our seasoned members can chirp in.

Mind you, when I was up last- which was a year and a bit ago- this was an issue, maybe things have changed???? And if so, THEN GREAT! Maybe people have smarten up since Feb of this year *wink*
 
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