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toguy5252

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More importantly the people that worked for me knew it.

They earned their positions....Novel concept to you I'm sure.
I have no doubt that they thought they earned it. That says nothing about the basis upon which you hired anyone. But nice try.
 

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I'm sure they want more combat ready women in the military, too.

Dirty, women appear to be extremely effective police officers and have been hired as cops for 30 years or more in this city.
 

Dutch Oven

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Of course, they have.

That is the position of the Commission, not a Human Rights Tribunal. The Commission is an administrative body that takes policy positions. Many of their positions are ultimately rejected by their own Tribunals, or the courts. Many of their takes on such matters are aspirational (and/or political) at best. They do not create law.

This particular position could not be sustained. There is no public policy reason to override the rather simple, and business-like proposition that employers are entitled to prefer, and find more reliable, certain proven work experience over other work experience that has not earned that level of trust. The HRC may be accustomed to hiring its own employees on considerations that are not as logical or business-like, but that doesn't give them the right to impose their own shoddy hiring practices on all Ontario employers.
 

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Wait....so, an industry that is having a hard time attracting workers is looking to make it no longer a haven for toxic masculinity? And you have a problem with that? I know that the industry is dominated by men. But it isn't like in the 50s where they were digging in shafts that could collapse at any time (not saying that couldn't happen, but they have significantly more safety policies than before). Women do work in these places. They can work machinery, be mechanics or even go down. Though most of this is done by strip mining now (I believe).

I honestly don't understand why this has put your nose out of joint, or why you think this is insanity. There are women who would take these jobs, because they pay well. The downside: the bullying and harassment by the idiot men who work there.
 
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Dutch Oven

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I am not saying it is law. But it is the reality of the situation and the finding. The University of Toronto research also found the same thing. I don't think anything legally will happen....atleast for now. But I do think the policy will change with increasing immigration. Well either that, or immigrants will choose to leave after being frustrated. And we will also suffer due to an aging population that cannot pay into the system to fund our social services, or fill our labour shortages etc.,
We agree on at least one thing - there is no point in admitting immigrants on the basis that they have desirable skills in short supply if we are not going to put those skills to use. However, I look at it as an immigration policy issue, not one focussed on the rights of immigrants.
 

richaceg

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Only true for low paying jobs that Canadians don't want to do. So it is not just a matter of economics but also availability of labour.

Go to any corporate job or highly skilled job that pays well, you will see they ask for Canadian experience (which has nothing to do with skills but everything to do with the fact that they don't consider you Canadian enough) , or just not pick your resume because your name doesn't sound western etc., Aka racist hiring practices where white employer prefer white employees and selectively pick them. (And before you ask, every immigrant who is not an assylum seeker is qualified as the Canadian immigration system ensures that. And also before you ask, it is not about getting the job, they wont even pick your resume for an interview. And before you ask, immigrant eductional qualifications and job experience do count in Canada as the immigration process ensures that it does).

How do I know this? Because I am a former immigrant who has faced this and I know exactly how Canadian employers think/act.
Speak for yourself...I was also a former immigrant hired as a general labourer 20 years ago...My boss now reitred let me run the business....he trusted me to run his company more than his kids...the kids never h ad a problem with that because they were never interested to inherit the business....it works out...
 
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richaceg

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The immigrant profile 20 years ago was different from what it is today. Today it is mostly consultants and software engineers and other corporate profiles coming in, so if they are asked for Canadian experience and the guy ends up as a low paying labourer or some other low paying job then it is a waste of human capital and the person will choose to leave eventually. A lot of them come from India (I think up to 30%). You can go to India and get high paying jobs instead. I would have done it had I not been successful here. People from countries like India come here not because we are poor in India, but for quality of life, culture etc.,. Quality of life depends on pay to a large extent. If pay is low and you are stuck as an ubereats driver, constantly rejected because you need Canadian experience (which you wont get without working anyway), what is the point of immigration? You have traded your cushy white collar office job in India, to be a second class low paid labourer in a foreign country where you are rejected for racist reasons. That's bullshit lol.
I deal with a lot of India born successful businessmen...most of the clients I deal with are immigrants before...I'm not denying there could be racist employers out there...there are huge influx of immigrants...I don't know what "canadian experience" even mean... never came across that since I got here...
 

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A lot of immigrants take the view that they are making sacrifices for their children. Again, my best example is the E.I. woman/girl who finished as the top high school student in Ontario a few years ago. She gave all the credit to her father who drove a cab 24/7 to provide for his family.

There is no shortage of successful East Indians in the business world.
Top 27 Indian Origin CEOs - Trailblazers in Global Business (startuptalky.com)
 

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The video I posted shows 1 female officer tackling, 1 male suspect with the suspect saying "Wow I have never met a woman so strong!". I will in this instance take the suspects word for it!
That's cute. It's like when you'd let a girl beat you at a game of basketball in grade school and tell her you've never played against a female with so much skill before.
 
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