Mining association launches regulations to diversify

[JohnLarue]

That is high praise.

I did not read the cause and effect to be as you describe although I certainly see how it could. Based on that analyis yes the pay scales were lower in occupations with a higher female partciapation but I do not then conclude that employers value those jobs less becasue of the female participation but rather that pay scales may decline because of the avalability of a labour pool that employers can pay less. More a case of the inherant variance in pay among men and women. At least that is the way i tale the outcome.

funny how he agrees with me

but rather that pay scales may decline because of the avalability of a labour pool that employers can pay less.

who needs an open mind now?
you Valcazar are more intelligent than the typical loonie
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
so sad that you allow their ideology to think for you

 

[Valcazar]

That is high praise.

I did not read the cause and effect to be as you describe although I certainly see how it could. Based on that analyis yes the pay scales were lower in occupations with a higher female partciapation but I do not then conclude that employers value those jobs less becasue of the female participation but rather that pay scales may decline because of the avalability of a labour pool that employers can pay less. More a case of the inherant variance in pay among men and women. At least that is the way i tale the outcome.

You should look into queuing vs devaluation. That appears to be the big argument about what's driving the effect.
If it was JUST availability of the labor pool, you shouldn't see the sex effects in the same way.

Trying to tease things out is a major point of the kind of research that looks into this, since obviously that's the first response that immediately comes to mind.

 

[toguy5252]

You should look into queuing vs devaluation. That appears to be the big argument about what's driving the effect.
If it was JUST availability of the labor pool, you shouldn't see the sex effects in the same way.

Trying to tease things out is a major point of the kind of research that looks into this, since obviously that's the first response that immediately comes to mind.

I am familiar with the 2 concepts. I just find it difficult to believe, and this is not scientific but rather based upon my own experience, that it is the participation of women that bias's compensation down as a result of the diminution of the perceived value of that job, as opposed to just supply and demand and the fact that women are generally paid less. That was certainly it my experience when I was a partner at a large law firm.

But I take your point.

 

[Valcazar]

I am familiar with the 2 concepts. I just find it difficult to believe, and this is not scientific but rather based upon my own experience, that it is the participation of women that bias's compensation down as a result of the diminution of the perceived value of that job, as opposed to just supply and demand and the fact that women are generally paid less. That was certainly it my experience when I was a partner at a large law firm.

But I take your point.

I'm sure both factor in, but what seems clear from the research that it isn't just supply and demand.