Million Immigrants in 2022 - Thanks Fidel

[jeff2]

I read that (and calling Trudeau Fidel's son) and immediately stopped taking anything @Rose11 said seriously. I mean, seriously. This is just sad the right has to create these myths to demonize Justin. Doesn't he do a good enough job on his own?

But here's the thing: We have an aging population and need an influx of new Canadians. Our birth rate is below growth levels. We need immigration or we'll turn into Japan, a country that has a staggering number of elderly/seniors but much fewer young adults/children. While having a higher number of people does increase the scarcity of things like housing, it can be met. Plus, it is government policy to encourage new Canadians to settle in other places besides the GTA (which can be both good and bad, because most immigrants would love to have people of the same background nearby to help with acclimatizing to a new country. But if the bulk of that immigrant population is in, say Brampton, you probably don't want to settle in Brandon, MB or Yorktown SK).

Some good real estate deals in Japan.

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/japanese-country-real-estate/index.html

 

[krealtarron]

I find it interesting that back in the day when the labour market was becoming saturated with boomers and women, you would read an article by an "expert" saying that this has no effect on wages. Apparently, the opposite is true now that boomers and women have become integrated into the economy and we "need" immigrants.

I dont get your comment here. What does becoming integrated into the economy mean?

We need immigrants because we have an aging demographic who wouldn't be productive. We therefore need younger immigrants.

Plus on a personal note, I think we need to increase the number of people in Canada to atleast 100M. Otherwise our economy, jobs, opportunities everything will just stagnate.

 

[toguy5252]

Gain of function research. Financing the Wuhan lab, etc. Need to follow House hearings and testimonies from top govt officials who were behind the scenes and were sidelined by Fauci for speaking out. It's a developing story... Will probably take a couple months before they conclude investigation. Probably a good year before charges are laid. 7 million people died. So if it's made in a lab, which it appears to be, it's mass murder.

It has not been established. That is the fact. There is a varying opinions and it may be the case that it turns out to have been man made but it has not been established. No one has suggested that even if it was man made that it was released intentionally.

 

[jeff2]

I dont get your comment here. What does becoming integrated into the economy mean?

We need immigrants because we have an aging demographic who wouldn't be productive. We therefore need younger immigrants.

Plus on a personal note, I think we need to increase the number of people in Canada to atleast 100M. Otherwise our economy, jobs, opportunities everything will just stagnate.

There are lots of countries with small populations and very high standards of living. I am talking about GDP per capita, not just adding people. Immigration is fine, but it seems the real reason is to give developers guaranteed business and to lower wages.

 

[krealtarron]

There are lots of countries with small populations and very high standards of living. I am talking about GDP per capita, not just adding people. Immigration is fine, but it seems the real reason is to give developers guaranteed business and to lower wages.

Not really. Japan is one of those countries but eventually it will lead to a population crisis as the country gets older. Maybe in the short term it reduces wages, but I think in the long term it will lead to growth.

 

[toguy5252]

There are lots of countries with small populations and very high standards of living. I am talking about GDP per capita, not just adding people. Immigration is fine, but it seems the real reason is to give developers guaranteed business and to lower wages.

The birth rate in most western countries is not high enough to provide an adequate work force. Canada is certainly in that category. It has nothing to do with lowering wages etc.

 

[jeff2]

Not really. Japan is one of those countries but eventually it will lead to a population crisis as the country gets older. Maybe in the short term it reduces wages, but I think in the long term it will lead to growth.

Japan is still pretty rich especially considering they

The birth rate in most western countries is not high enough to provide an adequate work force. Canada is certainly in that category. It has nothing to do with lowering wages etc.

The birth rate in most western countries is not high enough to provide an adequate work force. Canada is certainly in that category. It has nothing to do with lowering wages etc.

Business always lobbies for immigation. Look at Quebec, where unemployment is lower. They are screaming for immigrants. Try increasing wages and automating.
I have seen online comments about whiners saying no one will serve them coffee at Tim Horton's if we don't increase immigration. Give me a break.

 

[krealtarron]

Immigration is only piece of the housing puzzle. Demand.

It’s the supply side where real corruption is. How can I put this…. It does not matter the situation, somebody always comes along and works out an angle. Corruption, bribes, red tape and a crazy permit system are baked into from the political side…. Everybody takes a piece of the pie.

And the developers and sellers rig the markets. When 600 square foot condo’s are going for millions…. Yeah…. That’s an issue.

When everything going up is a condo… because it’s better for the developer, how do you have kids and raise a family?

How does a nation manage its population and birth rates so we don’t have to rely on immigration, when there is no room to actually have kids.

The System for creating supply is broken… or at least rigged for the gain of a few. Our national interest got pushed to side, and truthfully…. it will be our countries downfall.

I live in a smaller community. It’s happen here too. All the old farm land and wooded areas are being developed. Tons of townhouse condo’s where the living rooms and kitchens are “open concept” and the entire space may be about the size of the master bedroom. You can’t sit a family in these “living rooms”.

We need some serious building standards.

The prices are high and spaces small only because everything is being built in the GTA.

They need to just stop issuing permits for GTA and get these developers to build condos or whatever in other cities. Spread the population out. I bet you will have cheaper housing and larger spaces if that were the case.

 

[krealtarron]

Japan is still pretty rich especially considering they

You trailed off half way there...

 

[jeff2]

You trailed off half way there...

Sorry, responded to a new post. Yeah, Japan is still pretty rich considering they have almost no resources. They are also a leader in robotics.

 

[bver_hunter]

I was complaining about immigration/housing/public infrastructure and not race. Why do people want to bring race into the equation? This has nothing to do with race or gender. It's not about being a minority. I'm a person of color like I said. Doesn't matter if they're Ukrainians or Asians all the same as long as no criminal background.

You know that the ones that applied to come in as new immigrants have to show that they will not depend on Government handouts etc for at least 10 years. They are normally the ones that have either huge savings or enough of resources to stand on their own two feet as well as have close relatives that they can reside at least on a temporary basis. Remember that Canada does not have enough of workers to fill the numerous vacancies and many of these newly arrived migrants are prioritized to either fill or re-qualify to fill the vacant National Health workers spots that are in a critical state at the moment. If it helps in this respect that we have to take our hats off, to the Government.

But do you have the proof that "FIDEL" had anything to do with this situation??

 

[krealtarron]

Sorry, responded to a new post. Yeah, Japan is still pretty rich considering they have almost no resources. They are also a leader in robotics.

They are, but I think they are living on past glory. Their economy is stagnant.

 

[jeff2]

Far more entertaining to see if the DJ at the Cameron has minimalist jug band, handsome ned, alta moda, shadowy men or any other of the bands that made that place excellent in the 80's.
That and 50 cent drafts during the days.

Was at the Cameron back then, but mostly hung around the Beverley Tavern.

 

[poker]

The prices are high and spaces small only because everything is being built in the GTA.

They need to just stop issuing permits for GTA and get these developers to build condos or whatever in other cities. Spread the population out. I bet you will have cheaper housing and larger spaces if that were the case.

My buddy works for developers. He turned a family home into 3 apts. brutally small. He is now taking the family homes and only renting them out at boarding houses as he can get $800 per bedroom with shared household.

 

[mandrill]

Then I hope you don't have any problem with honor killings.

Tell us about all the honour killings in Canada, simp?

Any honour killings in the last 15 years in a Muslim-Canadian population of about a million people?.... I'll wait. You're smartie-martie. You can give me the real goods.

 

[krealtarron]

My buddy works for developers. He turned a family home into 3 apts. brutally small. He is now taking the family homes and only renting them out at boarding houses as he can get $800 per bedroom with shared household.

I know its pretty brutal. I was looking for office space downtown and one apartment, literally, I shit you not, was like the space under a stairwell. Like the corner of a building that was left over from other apartments. It was a triangle with a pillar going through! Only 300sqft but somehow they fit a bathroom, a closet and a kitchen in it

 

[mandrill]

Old people. Did you read my post ? Governments can't afford pensions for the boomer cohert. That's why it wants immigration so young workers can pay into SS/CPP/OAS. It will cripple healthcare budgets too, which is probably why Ford wants to privatize healthcare. Same reason France wants to raise retirement age. That's what's going to happen in 20ish years when Median age will be like 60 due to low natural birth rates. Without immigration, most western countries will look like the cruise ship crowd in about 20 years. Total disaster in the making. Yeah covid only dinged 7million people but boomers are much larger in number so houston, tax payers have a problem.

You love immigrants, Rose. So share with simp and tell him how great immigration is.

 

[krealtarron]

Fidel has been the PM since 2015. Is Canada a better country since 2015? How's the cost of living since 2015? What about his approval rating? (15% percent)? Trade deals? (Immigration isn't the only way to grow the economy. it's just one part. He showed gross incompetence in handling of the Keystone pipeline, investment initiatives in Oilgas - quick way to make Canada some money - and ofcourse Covid). There's a reason people don't like him.

Kevin O Leary calls him the worst PM ever.

And Kevin O Leary is the worst businessman ever. The dude lost his deposit with FTX He shouldn't even be on shark tank.

 

[simp2000]

So say that you are a racist pos who hates South Asians instead of mincing words about integration etc.,

So say that people have to assimilate into Canadian culture. Why don't you refute the article instead of using ad hominem attacks. It was written by CBC which supports JT.

 

[simp2000]

Canada is a secular, multicultural, multi-religious and pluralistic state. There is no one culture or value to integrate into. What you are implying here is bigoted.

Again, if it's a secular country, post-nationalist, multicultural state then you have to accept honor killings, hatred against the LGBT community, and that women are second-rate citizens according to the new cultures coming into the country. Are you willing to accept that krealtarron? Or are you a POS bigot?