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Absolutely untrue.

Immigration to Canada is MORE difficult now. If you look at CRS scores required, back in 2016, you needed about 415 points or so? I had several colleagues from India immigrate here with those scores. These were older folks - 35+.

Here is the latest draw: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigratio...-entry/submit-profile/rounds-invitations.html

As you can see the score is 484.

They are targeting younger and more educated people right now. Infact they are not targeting people from outside Canada, they are targeting people who are already in Canada who want to apply for PR. This is because having a job already will give you 50 extra points. Otherwise 484 is difficult to make.

Here is the CRS tool: https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/crs-tool.asp

I have a masters degree and I calculated and I got a score of 401. I wouldn't have made the cut to immigrate.

nice try
but wrong

your claim Adman Hussian made it more difficult to immigrate is pure BS

the threshold number of points is only relevant depending on the value of the points available for the specific criteria
one can number noodle a points system and make the total larger while increasing the points available

for example
points available if you have relatives in Canada was increased significantly
while points available if you have a job offer in Canada was decreased significantly

not at all aligned with sound economic objectives ( that is the Trudeau liberals party for you)

the results do not lie, the increase is due to a policy objective which has been implemented




We do require immigration if we want continued GDP growth, as we have an aging population
immigrates who will make a positive contribution, "welcome to Canada"

Everything Justin Trudeau touches turns to shit
His policies will not be driven by sound economic principals
 
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Canadian culture is Cuban Marxist Leninist culture.

When is Tim Hortons rolling out Cuban cigars?
 
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Again, if it's a secular country, post-nationalist, multicultural state then you have to accept honor killings, hatred against the LGBT community, and that women are second-rate citizens according to the new cultures coming into the country. Are you willing to accept that krealtarron? Or are you a POS bigot?
Simp, there have been no "honour killings" in Canada since 2008(?) when there was a notorious incident in Eastern Ontario. There HAVE been racist killings of Muslim immigrants far more recently.
 

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I'm actually liking how immigration is doing right now...It's not easy to immigrate to Canada unless you qualify on the skill threshold (nurse engineer, doctor or trade skills such as welders, framing and foundation etc etc) or the easier part is to become a college student....it might cost more $$$ but you set yourself as a good candidate to become an immigrant without passing the points system....it's a win win.
 

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points available if you have relatives in Canada was increased significantly
while points available if you have a job offer in Canada was decreased significantly
Talking out of your ass as usual. Do you ever spend time actually wanting to learn?

I did the calculation again this time as an immigrant but with a relative in Canada, but no job offer in Canada. Guess how many points I got? 416. 15 points more than the previous sure. But still not enough to get you a call from immigration as the CRS draw is for 484 and above.

Immigration is more difficult today than before because you need the 50 extra points for a job offer from Canada. Meaning they are targeting people for Permanent Residencies who are already here, and who already have a job.

And it makes sense to award slightly higher points for people with relatives. It means they will be less dependent on the system and have a security net. Hence it is reasonable for the human capital factor to go up.

I know this will fall on deaf years and be useless as you will stick your head in the sand instead of saying "Yeah my bad I got that one wrong". But whatever.
 

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Again, if it's a secular country, post-nationalist, multicultural state then you have to accept honor killings, hatred against the LGBT community, and that women are second-rate citizens according to the new cultures coming into the country. Are you willing to accept that krealtarron? Or are you a POS bigot?
No.

New arrivals are selected for their willingness and ability to adapt to Canadian values and live a Canadian lifestyle. If you actually had Muslim or South Asian friends and talked to them, it would be pretty clear that those communities have now adopted Canadian values.

There have been no reported honour killings in Canada since 2009.

 
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Talking out of your ass as usual. Do you ever spend time actually wanting to learn?

I did the calculation again this time as an immigrant but with a relative in Canada, but no job offer in Canada. Guess how many points I got? 416. 15 points more than the previous sure. But still not enough to get you a call from immigration as the CRS draw is for 484 and above.

Immigration is more difficult today than before because you need the 50 extra points for a job offer from Canada. Meaning they are targeting people for Permanent Residencies who are already here, and who already have a job.

And it makes sense to award slightly higher points for people with relatives. It means they will be less dependent on the system and have a security net. Hence it is reasonable for the human capital factor to go up.

I know this will fall on deaf years and be useless as you will stick your head in the sand instead of saying "Yeah my bad I got that one wrong". But whatever.
what website can I check points?
 

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Talking out of your ass as usual. Do you ever spend time actually wanting to learn?

I did the calculation again this time as an immigrant but with a relative in Canada, but no job offer in Canada. Guess how many points I got? 416. 15 points more than the previous sure. But still not enough to get you a call from immigration as the CRS draw is for 484 and above.

Immigration is more difficult today than before because you need the 50 extra points for a job offer from Canada. Meaning they are targeting people for Permanent Residencies who are already here, and who already have a job.

And it makes sense to award slightly higher points for people with relatives. It means they will be less dependent on the system and have a security net. Hence it is reasonable for the human capital factor to go up.

I know this will fall on deaf years and be useless as you will stick your head in the sand instead of saying "Yeah my bad I got that one wrong". But whatever.
I can attest to this. Having in some experience in express entry, you need to have some insane qualifications(masters and above) and 3+ years of experience in your field to make the cut. You also need to provide proof of proficiency in English by scoring high in IELTS. These were requirements would have landed you an invitation to apply in 2019. Now, if you do not have a job/job offer in Canada or you're not an international student here, there's no point even applying.

Points from having family in Canada is just 15, which gets you nowhere unless you're just at the finish line and its restricted only to siblings I believe. Age plays a huge factor as the older you get, lessers your chances. Beyond 35, your chances are slim to none.

There are sponsorships, which requires the sponsor to go thru stringent income verification and is also restricted to immediate family (spouse, parents, children)

It is super easy to blame immigrants for all the mess that is happening around us, but believe me when I say this, you are only getting the best and brightest from all parts of the world and they sacrifice a lot to come over here for a better quality of life and most of them do everything they can to contribute positively to the society. This thread is filled with hurtful rhetoric which only seeks to divide us further.
 
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Talking out of your ass as usual. Do you ever spend time actually wanting to learn?
drop dead
i recall when the changes were made.
Michelle Rempel (MP Calgary Rose Hill) was asking why the points criteria were being watered down

doing a scenario test on the points system as it sits now is meaningless when discussing the changes that were made to the point system in 2017
what is wrong with you?


I did the calculation again this time as an immigrant but with a relative in Canada, but no job offer in Canada. Guess how many points I got? 416. 15 points more than the previous sure. But still not enough to get you a call from immigration as the CRS draw is for 484 and above.

Immigration is more difficult today than before because you need the 50 extra points for a job offer from Canada. Meaning they are targeting people for Permanent Residencies who are already here, and who already have a job.

And it makes sense to award slightly higher points for people with relatives. It means they will be less dependent on the system and have a security net. Hence it is reasonable for the human capital factor to go up.

I know this will fall on deaf years and be useless as you will stick your head in the sand instead of saying "Yeah my bad I got that one wrong". But whatever.
look

the results just do not support your claim that's it is more difficult to immigrate into Canada
it be you who is taking out of your ass, ...and now you need to use some mouth wash


 
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It is super easy to blame immigrants for all the mess that is happening around us, but believe me when I say this, you are only getting the best and brightest from all parts of the world and they sacrifice a lot to come over here for a better quality of life and most of them do everything they can to contribute positively to the society. This thread is filled with hurtful rhetoric which only seeks to divide us further.
i am not blaming immigrants for Justin Trudeaus mess
I have stated repeatedly that Canada needs immigration, but immigrants who will contribute and there is an appropriate level of immigration
what are the odds the fool Justin Trudeau got that appropriate level right?
Slim to none

The claim that is harder to immigrate into Canada is just not true

The results do not lie



btw divide us further.... ??

Justin Trudeau has been the most divisive PM in our history
 
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drop dead
i recall when the changes were made.
Michelle Rempel (MP Calgary Rose Hill) was asking why the points criteria were being watered down


look

the results just do not support your claim that's it is more difficult to immigrate into Canada
it be you who is taking out of your ass, ...and now you need to use some mouth wash


What results? I just PROVED that it was more difficult to immigrate to Canada without a job than with one. WTF are you talking about?

And let me prove to you again, how between 2021 and 2022, the number of immigrants who were admitted is pretty much the same while the number of applications increased.


"In 2022, IRCC processed approximately 5.2 million applications for permanent residence, temporary residence and citizenship. That's double the number of applications processed in 2021."
405,000 immigrants were admitted to Canada in 2021 as opposed to 437,180 in 2022. About the same when applications have DOUBLED.

Are you going to admit you were wrong or are you going to keep talking out of your ass?
 

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I can attest to this. Having in some experience in express entry, you need to have some insane qualifications(masters and above) and 3+ years of experience in your field to make the cut. You also need to provide proof of proficiency in English by scoring high in IELTS. These were requirements would have landed you an invitation to apply in 2019. Now, if you do not have a job/job offer in Canada or you're not an international student here, there's no point even applying.

Points from having family in Canada is just 15, which gets you nowhere unless you're just at the finish line and its restricted only to siblings I believe. Age plays a huge factor as the older you get, lessers your chances. Beyond 35, your chances are slim to none.

There are sponsorships, which requires the sponsor to go thru stringent income verification and is also restricted to immediate family (spouse, parents, children)

It is super easy to blame immigrants for all the mess that is happening around us, but believe me when I say this, you are only getting the best and brightest from all parts of the world and they sacrifice a lot to come over here for a better quality of life and most of them do everything they can to contribute positively to the society. This thread is filled with hurtful rhetoric which only seeks to divide us further.
Bingo! Welcome to Canada!
 

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What results? I just PROVED that it was more difficult to immigrate to Canada without a job than with one. WTF are you talking about?
which is not relevant to the changes made by Adman Hussian
again you are number noodling with the post-change system
having a prior job offer use to be valued much much higher than 15 points out of 416

And let me prove to you again, how between 2021 and 2022, the number of immigrants who were admitted is pretty much the same while the number of applications increased.


"In 2022, IRCC processed approximately 5.2 million applications for permanent residence, temporary residence and citizenship. That's double the number of applications processed in 2021."
405,000 immigrants were admitted to Canada in 2021 as opposed to 437,180 in 2022. About the same when applications have DOUBLED.

Are you going to admit you were wrong or are you going to keep talking out of your ass?
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can you not read a chart?
Ave 260 to 270 k during the Harper years and then it increased to over 300K in 2015 when the fool came to office and has been higher (save the lock down period)
492K in 2021 to 2022



you are comparing 2021 to 2021 when both are years of excessive immigration vs history
and both years are a result of the same watered down points system

try reading your own source

Recognizing their value, the Government of Canada planned to welcome 431,645 new permanent residents in 2022.
this is well in excess of previous levels of immigration
explain how the govt can plan to increase immigration while simultaneously making the application criteria harder ?
they can not plan for the number of applicants to increase , they do not control that

Besides, the number of applicants is total irrelevant to a points based system
One either has enough points or one does not. Acceptance / rejection of an application is completely independent of how many applications are processed

they do however control the criteria of the points system

you are taking out of your ass because you do not think

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Talking out of your ass as usual. Do you ever spend time actually wanting to learn?

I did the calculation again this time as an immigrant but with a relative in Canada, but no job offer in Canada. Guess how many points I got? 416. 15 points more than the previous sure. But still not enough to get you a call from immigration as the CRS draw is for 484 and above.

Immigration is more difficult today than before because you need the 50 extra points for a job offer from Canada. Meaning they are targeting people for Permanent Residencies who are already here, and who already have a job.

And it makes sense to award slightly higher points for people with relatives. It means they will be less dependent on the system and have a security net. Hence it is reasonable for the human capital factor to go up.

I know this will fall on deaf years and be useless as you will stick your head in the sand instead of saying "Yeah my bad I got that one wrong". But whatever.
Base upon reading the link...it seems the median passing is 600. out of 1200 points...no? Thanks btw.
 
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