Million Immigrants in 2022 - Thanks Fidel

[Rose11]

Tell me more about those "elites" that tried to kill the pensioners off through COVID. That was interesting....

Who we talking bout with them "elites" - the shape-shifting space lizards? Or are you more of a "Blame Soros" type of dude? Or maybe it was the woke transgender groomers?

I don't know. Might wanna try asking Faucci. It's already established the virus was man made, even per the mainstream narrative (US authorities are investigating, too early for charges). Not sometimes Woke simps would understand.

 

[silentkisser]

Tell me more about those "elites" that tried to kill the pensioners off through COVID. That was interesting....

Who we talking bout with them "elites" - the shape-shifting space lizards? Or are you more of a "Blame Soros" type of dude? Or maybe it was the woke transgender groomers?

I read that (and calling Trudeau Fidel's son) and immediately stopped taking anything @Rose11 said seriously. I mean, seriously. This is just sad the right has to create these myths to demonize Justin. Doesn't he do a good enough job on his own?

But here's the thing: We have an aging population and need an influx of new Canadians. Our birth rate is below growth levels. We need immigration or we'll turn into Japan, a country that has a staggering number of elderly/seniors but much fewer young adults/children. While having a higher number of people does increase the scarcity of things like housing, it can be met. Plus, it is government policy to encourage new Canadians to settle in other places besides the GTA (which can be both good and bad, because most immigrants would love to have people of the same background nearby to help with acclimatizing to a new country. But if the bulk of that immigrant population is in, say Brampton, you probably don't want to settle in Brandon, MB or Yorktown SK).

 

[mandrill]

I don't know. Might wanna try asking Faucci. It's already established the virus was man made, even per the mainstream narrative (US authorities are investigating, too early for charges). Not sometimes Woke simps would understand.

Personally, I think it was the shape-shifting alien lizards. But that doesn't necessarily rule out Soros being a lizard himself, does it?

 

[mandrill]

I read that (and calling Trudeau Fidel's son) and immediately stopped taking anything @Rose11 said seriously. I mean, seriously. This is just sad the right has to create these myths to demonize Justin. Doesn't he do a good enough job on his own?

But here's the thing: We have an aging population and need an influx of new Canadians. Our birth rate is below growth levels. We need immigration or we'll turn into Japan, a country that has a staggering number of elderly/seniors but much fewer young adults/children. While having a higher number of people does increase the scarcity of things like housing, it can be met. Plus, it is government policy to encourage new Canadians to settle in other places besides the GTA (which can be both good and bad, because most immigrants would love to have people of the same background nearby to help with acclimatizing to a new country. But if the bulk of that immigrant population is in, say Brampton, you probably don't want to settle in Brandon, MB or Yorktown SK).

I think your argument might have slipped over Rose's head by a few feet.

 

[NotADcotor]

In 2022, Canada welcomed 437,180 immigrants and the number of non-permanent residents increased by a net 607,782 people.
StatsCan counts both permanent and non-permanent residents in addition to net new births in calculating population figures.

Thank god, maybe rents and housing prices will stop tanking, those empty hospitals and unemployed doctors will have something to do and the roads and transit systems won't seem so scary empty.

On a more serious note, the first problem could be solved with a combo of rule changes [which based on recent elections are not really under consideration] and immigration policy favoring trained trades workers/opening training spots for students, the second likewise could also be fixed with funding and again providing a smoother path for qualification, I am not suggesting accepting foriegn credentials considering how rampant academic cheating is in places like India and China as well as standards* but still training spots could be opened up. As for the third, instead of taking up more street space with bike paths that won't be used in winter and bad weather, they should be building metro stations on a yearly basis, if we have been building say 2 a year in Toronto since 1980 that would help quite a lot.

But fuck it, bring them in, and make sure none of them are hard working farm kids or allowed to enter the medical system because that makes total fucking sense.

*Before any woketard shits on me, Gweilo 60 who I am sure is part of the 50 cent army, everything he posts is about how much better China is, how Taiwan belongs to the PRC, and how Canada is lame with it's high taxes on beer, the moment his Chinese wife got cancer, he brought her back to BC, waited a few months to get her on the health care system and got it treated. Spertza who admittedly hate China with a passion of a 1000 suns has a similar attitude even though he is married to a Chinese doctor, and I know one who actually passed the exams but couldn't get a residency spot whose head if just filled with supersitition and crap... she takes David "Avocado" Wolfe seriously FFS. Just one example of many, I know an Indian who has a Masters in a stem field, he will freely admit he knows nothing as he paid for all his exams.


If we are going to bring in even half a million people a year, shouldn't we tidy up the joint a bit, fill the fridge, put new bed sheets on the mattress make the place livable?

 

[krealtarron]

I don't know. Might wanna try asking Faucci. It's already established the virus was man made, even per the mainstream narrative (US authorities are investigating, too early for charges). Not sometimes Woke simps would understand.

Whether it was man made or naturally occurring, how did you come to the dramatic conclusion that the "elites were trying to kill everyone off with COVID"?

I mean even if that was true, what sense does it make for an "elite" to kill off everyone else? Then they wont be elite anymore would they? Your logic doesn't make any sense.

 

[Dutch Oven]

Dutch, you overthought the song, as you overthink everything.

The Men They Couldn't Hang was indeed a Brit tankie-leftie 80's alternative band; but in "Bobcaygeon", they are a right wing band that sings racist songs. (The Hip probably owes TMTCH an apology on that one). The "aryan twang" refers to the fictional MTCH singing racist songs. Checkerboard floors is probably a generic reference to any number of Queen Street West clubs. (I would have to call by the Cameron for a draft and check that out, ditto Lee's Palace on BLoor West, which is indeed just a short 5-minute stroll from Christie Pits, which isn't actually mentioned in the Hip song).

Like other Hip songs, Bobcaygeon is a non specific pastiche of inaccurate references thrown together with the music to create a mood.

You sound like you spent a lot less time in the Toronto clubs in the 80's than I did. There was only one club that was KNOWN for its checkerboard floors. Downey wouldn't have bothered offering that detail if that weren't true.

Even if I overthought the song, I probably underthought it compared to Downey (see if you can work that out!)!

If you can "stroll" from Queen and Spadina to Bloor and Christie in 5 minutes, you should consider signing up for the Toronto marathon (I'm not sure which division you would prefer). Lee's never had the checkerboard floor (but is relatively close to Christie Pits). Both bands did play at Lee's .

Your interpretation of TMTCH switching teams is a novel one. Can't think of why Downey would hang that reversal on a band that he liked. Remember, at the time the song came out, TMTCH would have been sure to have heard the song and pick their name out of the lyric. You think Downey was trying to piss them off?

Apart from all that, your idea of heading to the Cameron is a good one that you should implement immediately, but I think you underestimate Downey as a poet. The strength of the Hip material is the lyrics. The music is pretty banal. I doubt that Downey was ever trying to service the music with throw away lyrics. Maybe you could get the DJ at the Cameron to put on a few Hip classics for you and you could rethink the whole matter in a relaxed atmosphere.

 

[poker]

Tell me more about those "elites" that tried to kill the pensioners off through COVID. That was interesting....

Who we talking bout with them "elites" - the shape-shifting space lizards? Or are you more of a "Blame Soros" type of dude? Or maybe it was the woke transgender groomers?

I’ll put down $10 on the Jewish space laser people…. (Because we all know what the space laser people are like.)

 

[poker]

You sound like you spent a lot less time in the Toronto clubs in the 80's than I did. There was only one club that was KNOWN for its checkerboard floors. Downey wouldn't have bothered offering that detail if that weren't true.

Even if I overthought the song, I probably underthought it compared to Downey (see if you can work that out!)!

If you can "stroll" from Queen and Spadina to Bloor and Christie in 5 minutes, you should consider signing up for the Toronto marathon (I'm not sure which division you would prefer). Lee's never had the checkerboard floor (but is relatively close to Christie Pits). Both bands did play at Lee's .

Your interpretation of TMTCH switching teams is a novel one. Can't think of why Downey would hang that reversal on a band that he liked. Remember, at the time the song came out, TMTCH would have been sure to have heard the song and pick their name out of the lyric. You think Downey was trying to piss them off?

Apart from all that, your idea of heading to the Cameron is a good one that you should implement immediately, but I think you underestimate Downey as a poet. The strength of the Hip material is the lyrics. The music is pretty banal. I doubt that Downey was ever trying to service the music with throw away lyrics. Maybe you could get the DJ at the Cameron to put on a few Hip classics for you and you could rethink the whole matter in a relaxed atmosphere.

Now I wanna go drinkin with you and Mandrill downtown.

 

[Frankfooter]

Maybe you could get the DJ at the Cameron to put on a few Hip classics for you and you could rethink the whole matter in a relaxed atmosphere.

Far more entertaining to see if the DJ at the Cameron has minimalist jug band, handsome ned, alta moda, shadowy men or any other of the bands that made that place excellent in the 80's.
That and 50 cent drafts during the days.

 

[mandrill]

You sound like you spent a lot less time in the Toronto clubs in the 80's than I did. There was only one club that was KNOWN for its checkerboard floors. Downey wouldn't have bothered offering that detail if that weren't true.
Even if I overthought the song, I probably underthought it compared to Downey (see if you can work that out!)!
If you can "stroll" from Queen and Spadina to Bloor and Christie in 5 minutes, you should consider signing up for the Toronto marathon (I'm not sure which division you would prefer). Lee's never had the checkerboard floor (but is relatively close to Christie Pits). Both bands did play at Lee's .

Lee's Palace is at Bloor and Bathurst. Christie Pits is about 6 blocks further west. Lee's was my reference. You misread what I posted.

Spad and Queen West to Christie Pits is about a 20 minutes stroll. There's a decent rub'n tug across from Christie Pits park on the South side.

Your interpretation of TMTCH switching teams is a novel one. Can't think of why Downey would hang that reversal on a band that he liked. Remember, at the time the song came out, TMTCH would have been sure to have heard the song and pick their name out of the lyric. You think Downey was trying to piss them off?

TMTCH were pretty obscure even back in the day. I heard Brent Banbury refer to them and play a couple of songs on Brave New Waves once. I think Downey just remembered the name and didn't make any other connection.

Apart from all that, your idea of heading to the Cameron is a good one that you should implement immediately, but I think you underestimate Downey as a poet. The strength of the Hip material is the lyrics. The music is pretty banal. I doubt that Downey was ever trying to service the music with throw away lyrics. Maybe you could get the DJ at the Cameron to put on a few Hip classics for you and you could rethink the whole matter in a relaxed atmosphere.

I listen to the Hip a lot at home.

 

[mandrill]

Far more entertaining to see if the DJ at the Cameron has minimalist jug band, handsome ned, alta moda, shadowy men or any other of the bands that made that place excellent in the 80's.
That and 50 cent drafts during the days.

I've forgotten alta moda. I have a vague memory of sitting with the minimalist jug band (whose real name I've forgotten) looking west at Manhattan over the East River from some dive joint in Brooklyn in the early 90's. Aah to be young, dumb and very high all over again!

 

[Frankfooter]

I've forgotten alta moda. I have a vague memory of sitting with the minimalist jug band (whose real name I've forgotten) looking west at Manhattan over the East River from some dive joint in Brooklyn in the early 90's. Aah to be young, dumb and very high all over again!

'I'm a lousy lover, I'm a lousy lay, I'm no good in the sack....

Don't know why I still remember that one.

 

[toguy5252]

I don't know. Might wanna try asking Faucci. It's already established the virus was man made, even per the mainstream narrative (US authorities are investigating, too early for charges). Not sometimes Woke simps would understand.

It has not been established that virus was man made. What does any of this have to do with woke even your ridiculous interpretation of it.

 

[simp2000]

His numbers are not correct. Trudeau did not let in 1,000,000 immigrates (the title of the thread) Just check stats Canada.

This may come as a shock to you - but a population growth includes people born here or do you think 437.180 landed immigrants were all pregnant woman ???

I recognize than just immigrants are be coming to Canada - over 90,000 student work permits were allowed in 2023 and Farmers rely on a large immigrant workforce so the demand for rent, etc comes from more than immigrants. However the facts of presented thread is incorrect.(by a factor of two). If you start with Trudeau - Fidel ... you know an 'I'm not a racist but .. ' then paranoia fear mongering is about to follow.

“If you don’t have official numbers showing the demand accurately, municipalities making allocation for housing based on those are missing the magnitude of the need.”

From https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/rents-are-soaring-in-canada-as-surge-of-people-goes-undercounted-1.1884198

Since you are too lazy to read I will take a small snippet.

 

[simp2000]

Canada is a secular, multicultural, multi-religious and pluralistic state. There is no one culture or value to integrate into. What you are implying here is bigoted.

Then I hope you don't have any problem with honor killings.

 

[Rose11]

It has not been established that virus was man made. What does any of this have to do with woke even your ridiculous interpretation of it.

Gain of function research. Financing the Wuhan lab, etc. Need to follow House hearings and testimonies from top govt officials who were behind the scenes and were sidelined by Fauci for speaking out. It's a developing story... Will probably take a couple months before they conclude investigation. Probably a good year before charges are laid. 7 million people died. So if it's made in a lab, which it appears to be, it's mass murder.

 

[krealtarron]

Then I hope you don't have any problem with honor killings.

So say that you are a racist pos who hates South Asians instead of mincing words about integration etc.,

 

[Rose11]

I mean even if that was true, what sense does it make for an "elite" to kill off everyone else?

Old people. Did you read my post ? Governments can't afford pensions for the boomer cohert. That's why it wants immigration so young workers can pay into SS/CPP/OAS. It will cripple healthcare budgets too, which is probably why Ford wants to privatize healthcare. Same reason France wants to raise retirement age. That's what's going to happen in 20ish years when Median age will be like 60 due to low natural birth rates. Without immigration, most western countries will look like the cruise ship crowd in about 20 years. Total disaster in the making. Yeah covid only dinged 7million people but boomers are much larger in number so houston, tax payers have a problem.

 

[jeff2]

We need immigration with our aging demographic. The ones who come are qualified to get jobs etc., We just need to get rid of this stupid "Canadian experience" requirement so they can get jobs sooner.

BTW without immigration, there is no production. Production doesn't exist in a vacuum.

I find it interesting that back in the day when the labour market was becoming saturated with boomers and women, you would read an article by an "expert" saying that this has no effect on wages. Apparently, the opposite is true now that boomers and women have become integrated into the economy and we "need" immigrants.