Meeting female civilians is a waste of time

[Liquidity]

If it wasn't for this hobby, I would have been a frustrated, bitter and resentful incel. Before my hobbying days, I had approach anxiety. I didn't know how to talk to women, I feared rejection and I was fairly socially inept. I wanted to meet women and I thought at the time dating was the best option to meet beautiful women. So I read The Game by Neil Stratus to know how the PUA's talked to women and The Book of Pook for self-improvement. I got rejected once and I got very emotional about it. I told a buddy of mine about it and he recommended me to go to a erotic massage palour to get my mind off of her. That's how I got into hobbying.

Even during my post-hobbying days, I have always respected the idea of meeting women the traditional way and I really wanted to get my foot in the door in the dating world. Last year, I approached 80-90 women and every single one of them rejected me. I was really serious about trying this dating thing out and going after the women I wanted in the traditional way instead of staying home jerking off to Instagram models. I wanted to make my friends proud and text them "I scored a date!."

What I have learned about my rejections is that, You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. So it doesn't matter how interested you are in that woman you are pursuing or how confident you are, It is always up to woman to choose to date you because they have more power than us in terms of choosing a dating partner. Additionally, Women have a huge advantage in the sexual dating marketplace. 80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominate hierarchy. (https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a). Unfortunately, I'm not in the top 20%. I can't compete. I was unable to get the women that I wanted which is why I think meeting female civilians is a waste of time, and why hobbying was the better route for me to take.

Hey man, I almost never comment and just lurk but felt compelled to reach out here because I have something important to contribute.

It sounds like you have gone down the redpill/mgtow/incel/JordanPeterson rabbit hole and that is really jading you. The PUA stuff is mostly garbage. 90% of it I would say. 10% is about accurate and mostly common sense.

The real "harsh truth" is there is no "chad". Even the hilarious "scientific" experiments above with the male models wouldn't have anywhere near a 100% success rate with cold-approachin. The truth is cold approaching is incredibly difficult everywhere. But it varies with the city and its culture. It may be more socially acceptable in some cities and far less in others. Toronto is in the latter category. What you don't seem to understand is that its plausible some or even a good number of 80-90 of those women found you sufficiently attractive but were put off because of your approach, your disregard for the social norms of the city, and so on. If you met them in any other setting that is more conducive to breaking the ice like at a hobby, with friends or at a house party, and so on, then I would find it hard to believe you would have struck out with all of them. It also seems to me that they didn't give you any signals of interest and you approached regardless which is trying to walk through a brickwall in most cases. You might have to brush up your social skills if my intuition is right.


As far as the premise of this thread I gotta say that I completely disagree. There are very few things that beats a normal looking "civvie" woman who loves you and is exclusive to you than an amazing looking provider who at the end of the day couldn't give 2 shits about you. All the best.

 

[likwid]

I wouldn't call it a waste of time but if you are only doing to get her in bed then in many cases seeing an escort is a lot more efficient and in some cases cheaper. However, if you are looking for a lifelong partner then keep trying and you will find her, eventually.

Not if you’re a hateful, whiny, dick; where in today’s society the internet facilitates this mindset in more and more young men.

 

[Euro Male]

No-one is out of your league. Just have the attitude that YOU are the league, that's all that matters.

You MUST NOT GIVE A FUCK.

Just focus on building yourself. Women will see the progress and then they start to choose you.

you need to be a player i.e. you have to be active by developing your mind, body, etc.

I am now over 50, I am tall, fit, nice hair, dress well, have genuine confidence am interesting and successful so that does give me "access" to the higher levels of desirable women.

Guys may have success while younger or older...

Good men wouldn't stand for any women's bullshit

Recently a girl I started getting to know gave me an attitude, she thought she's really special (she's really not that special) and demanded me to treat her like a princess.

I pretty much dumped her

I firmly believe that MEN are now the prize more than women. They just don't realize it.

Yesterday I was in the gym. There was a young woman maybe 25 - 28 that was wearing WAAAAYY too much perfume. I would say body-wise she was a 9 and facially an 8.

I just walked up to her and in earshot of others around I politely told her that the gym policy was not to wear strong perfume and I would appreciate it if she wouldn't wear it in the future.

I do not care if the girl likes me or not.

That's all that matters.

Work on self improvement, accept and love yourself. Find happiness all around you.

Awesome thread,

Alpha Male send home message . . . . 'Own Your Shit!' ('Power')

 

[Smallcock]

You should post more.

I prefer to post under my other account: smallcock.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I read through this again and conclude that if you’re only goal is meeting people in order to get laid or a girlfriend, that may be a waste of time.

I applaud the dedication, but if that lens was focused on yourself and mindset and how to live a single happy life just chasing excellence, the other stuff may just find you or you may find that you don’t really need it.

 

[superstar_88]

I prefer to post under my other account: smallcock.

You should post less dad threads

 

[canada-man]

If it wasn't for this hobby, I would have been a frustrated, bitter and resentful incel. Before my hobbying days, I had approach anxiety. I didn't know how to talk to women, I feared rejection and I was fairly socially inept. I wanted to meet women and I thought at the time dating was the best option to meet beautiful women. So I read The Game by Neil Stratus to know how the PUA's talked to women and The Book of Pook for self-improvement. I got rejected once and I got very emotional about it. I told a buddy of mine about it and he recommended me to go to a erotic massage palour to get my mind off of her. That's how I got into hobbying.

Even during my post-hobbying days, I have always respected the idea of meeting women the traditional way and I really wanted to get my foot in the door in the dating world. Last year, I approached 80-90 women and every single one of them rejected me. I was really serious about trying this dating thing out and going after the women I wanted in the traditional way instead of staying home jerking off to Instagram models. I wanted to make my friends proud and text them "I scored a date!."

What I have learned about my rejections is that, You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. So it doesn't matter how interested you are in that woman you are pursuing or how confident you are, It is always up to woman to choose to date you because they have more power than us in terms of choosing a dating partner. Additionally, Women have a huge advantage in the sexual dating marketplace. 80% of women want the top 20% of men in the male dominate hierarchy. (https://medium.com/@worstonlinedate...ably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a). Unfortunately, I'm not in the top 20%. I can't compete. I was unable to get the women that I wanted which is why I think meeting female civilians is a waste of time, and why hobbying was the better route for me to take.

women cannot make you happy

 

[Spacealien2]

Great, I'm honored to make Euro Male's alpha male list.

The state of western women has gone so bad that I started to amuse myself when they act like a man (HUGE turn off!) The most recent girl acted bitchy and I said to her, "didn't your parents teach you not to talk back to a man?"