Mark Fenton

However, what it showed was that the younger generation is a lot more educated than their parents and grandparents, as most of them do not subscribe to Neoconservatism.
I vaguely remember at the time a member right here on TERB said he was going to enter one or more of the "no go" zones (wearing a backpack?) to exercise his Charter rights as a Canadian citizen to go anywhere anytime he pleases. Not sure if he actually carried through because he never reported back.
 
There were no organizers for g20, it was a protest not a parade. Occupy operates without a centralized leadership.

Occupy was shut down by the police and they never really made any big gains but they got their point across.
They also scared the elite class which is why the police responded the way they did. However, what it showed was that the younger generation is a lot more educated than their parents and grandparents, as most of them do not subscribe to Neoconservatism.
After the baby boomers die out it will be extremely difficult to push fascism, unregulated unfettered capitalism, tax cuts for the rich, and imperialist wars.

Very funny. A hundred years from now money will still be money, the young generation of the know it alls will still need jobs, roofs over their heads and some currency to use on the patio to buy beer. And if the kumbaya socialist leaders fail to deliver, it will be back to the bad old, heartless conservatives. Because, right or left, politics are always about the mundane and self interest.
 
Very funny. A hundred years from now money will still be money, the young generation of the know it alls will still need jobs, roofs over their heads and some currency to use on the patio to buy beer. And if the kumbaya socialist leaders fail to deliver, it will be back to the bad old, heartless conservatives. Because, right or left, politics are always about the mundane and self interest.
So true. I lived in Montreal Quebec when separatism was the fad of the day. Then the 16 year olds became 30 year olds with a spouse, kids, a mortgage and an RRSP and reality was the same old same old and separatism was no longer the pipedream. One thing we learned from the Russian, Chinese and Iranian revolutions --- there are rulers but there are many more who are ruled ("because, right or left, politics are always about the mundane and self-interest'.)
 
Very funny. A hundred years from now money will still be money, the young generation of the know it alls will still need jobs, roofs over their heads and some currency to use on the patio to buy beer. And if the kumbaya socialist leaders fail to deliver, it will be back to the bad old, heartless conservatives. Because, right or left, politics are always about the mundane and self interest.

You can have your head up your ass as much as you want but things are slowly changing.
 
So true. I lived in Montreal Quebec when separatism was the fad of the day. Then the 16 year olds became 30 year olds with a spouse, kids, a mortgage and an RRSP and reality was the same old same old and separatism was no longer the pipedream. One thing we learned from the Russian, Chinese and Iranian revolutions --- there are rulers but there are many more who are ruled ("because, right or left, politics are always about the mundane and self-interest'.)

Younger generations are not settling down at the same rates as before, economic policies are against their interests and they know this.
They're also not watching tv which makes a big difference to what they're exposed too.
 
Younger generations are not settling down at the same rates as before, economic policies are against their interests and they know this.
They're also not watching tv which makes a big difference to what they're exposed too.

That is simply because the system is not fair. It is not fair anymore.

You can blame the selective socialism for all of that. The selective socialism for the baby boomer generation. They will suck all the life out of the younger people, anyone younger than them with their social welfare entitlements. Such as pensions. And in the public sector, bloated salaries.

You young people just do not have a chance like the the opportunities the baby boomer generation had.

Someone like Wynne, all she cares about is helping herself. Is she a boomer?

The best chance for young people, and the province of Ontario, is the dismantling of the social welfare state. More socialism will only serve to suppress the younger generation with higher taxes for next 20 years.

Guess what that tax monies will be used for? Boomers and the state worker.
 
Or you can vote for Stevie Harpo and a return to the social welfare state of the Middle Ages.

That is simply because the system is not fair. It is not fair anymore.

You can blame the selective socialism for all of that. The selective socialism for the baby boomer generation. They will suck all the life out of the younger people, anyone younger than them with their social welfare entitlements. Such as pensions. And in the public sector, bloated salaries.

You young people just do not have a chance like the the opportunities the baby boomer generation had.

Someone like Wynne, all she cares about is helping herself. Is she a boomer?

The best chance for young people, and the province of Ontario, is the dismantling of the social welfare state. More socialism will only serve to suppress the younger generation with higher taxes for next 20 years.

Guess what that tax monies will be used for? Boomers and the state worker.
 
That is simply because the system is not fair. It is not fair anymore.

You can blame the selective socialism for all of that. The selective socialism for the baby boomer generation. They will suck all the life out of the younger people, anyone younger than them with their social welfare entitlements. Such as pensions. And in the public sector, bloated salaries.

You young people just do not have a chance like the the opportunities the baby boomer generation had.

Someone like Wynne, all she cares about is helping herself. Is she a boomer?

The best chance for young people, and the province of Ontario, is the dismantling of the social welfare state. More socialism will only serve to suppress the younger generation with higher taxes for next 20 years.

Guess what that tax monies will be used for? Boomers and the state worker.

I think you've got your definition of what socialism is and isn't mixed up.
Most young people agree that the rich should pay their fare share of taxes. Low taxes for corporations and elites do not equal more good jobs.
Conservatives and Libs pretty much have the same economic policies.
 
Or you can vote for Stevie Harpo and a return to the social welfare state of the Middle Ages.

Well, I always thought PM Harper was a little freaky.

Especially when he has that silly grin. Like he's thinking that that Megen person is nakid, and imagining whatever.

:eyebrows:
 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...sts-guilty-of-discreditable-conduct-1.3202686

I don't understand why the organizers of the "peaceful" protest are not held responsible for the damage caused by their "peaceful" protestors. There should be a law that says if you organize a protest/march/parade/demonstration, you are also responsible and liable for any costs/injuries/damages caused by your event, including the cost of policing.

only a retard would not understand why that is not a retarded position.
 
only a retard would not understand why that is not a retarded position.


And only a retard would argue with a retard on the internet!

Like me...:frusty:
 
I think you've got your definition of what socialism is and isn't mixed up.
Most young people agree that the rich should pay their fare share of taxes. Low taxes for corporations and elites do not equal more good jobs.
Conservatives and Libs pretty much have the same economic policies.
The so called "rich" already pay their fair share of taxes.
 
The so called "rich" already pay their fair share of taxes.

Not really the right way to think about the problem. "Fair" is subjective and all kinds of perspectives exist: have they really repaid society for all the privileges they typically received?

A more objective method is to look at what would create the greatest boost to economic output, and apply taxes that way. Or you could maximize a different metric, like employment, or poverty reduction, or some other.

By most such objective, metrics driven methods of analyzing tax policy, taxes on the rich are far more efficient than taxes on the poor.

One reason why is that if you give a guy like me an extra ten grand it goes into a diversified mutual fund, primarily invested offshore. If you give ten grand to a McDonald's fry cook it gets spent on a large screen TV from a local retailer, a lot of beer from a local beer retailer, and maybe a new car from a local dealership. The benefit to the Canadian economy is much more immediate and real.

As such money given to the poor creates more jobs and that tends to drive most of the metrics you might look at in setting tax policy objectively.
 
As such money given to the poor creates more jobs and that tends to drive most of the metrics you might look at in setting tax policy objectively.
So, the road to national prosperity is to give more money to the poor?
 
So, the road to national prosperity is to give more money to the poor?

Well giving more money to the rich certainly does not help national prosperity, as the policies of W and Obama along woth Mr. Harp suggest.

You make it like the rich are being forced to drop dimes into our used coffee cups on some "let them eat cake" shit.