Mark Carney - next PM

[Butler1000]

Carney is the Lib's best chance to hold on to some seats. I don't believe he can save the Libs and us from Pee Pee unless Pierre steps into a pile of serious dog shit but he will do better than anyone else running.

We shall see, anyone was better than Trudeau. But I think most will see through this as not a change, but just more of the same.

Talking with a bunch of couples at a get together last night, and the concensus is they have to go, no matter what. Most are Liberal voters, a few NDPers, and a few Conservatives(probably a few more Conservatives who ain't admitting). The mood was, we need to send a message.

People who are looking to send a message are not interested in hearing one.

 

[Butler1000]

Pee Pee is the actual rookie who will screw it all up for the Middle and Lower Income Canadians!!

At the moment he is running the tightest messaging in a campaign in decades. Notice how no stupid mavericks have mentioned abortion, religion, other stupidity? He has a tight reign on the caucus. Only his handpicked people with specific instructions have spoken to the press and in Question Period.

He could get 50% of the vote. In a 6 party election that's huge.

And he will run a centrist policy driven govt. They always do.

 

[Grist]

The Liberals are despised in Quebec, and Carney, with his grade 10 level French (He needs a teleprompter), hasn’t got a prayer of beating Poilievre in that regard. Quebec makes or brakes every election. Look at the recent drubbing the Liberals got in the byelection in Montreal.
Besides, Freeland has tons of support in the Liberal caucus. Every female member will vote for her.

 

[The Oracle]

At the moment he is running the tightest messaging in a campaign in decades. Notice how no stupid mavericks have mentioned abortion, religion, other stupidity? He has a tight reign on the caucus. Only his handpicked people with specific instructions have spoken to the press and in Question Period.

He could get 50% of the vote. In a 6 party election that's huge.

And he will run a centrist policy driven govt. They always do.

The Poilievre team is the most professional the Conservatives have put forth in quite some time.

All their messaging is succinct and on point...Extremely well co-ordinated.

It's like the Conservatives are playing chess to the Liberals checkers.

Let's see how Carny does playing mop up on the campaign trail with an infuriated Canadian public at each stop.

It will help that they will have the CBC to red carpet them wherever they go however.

 

[Butler1000]

The Poilievre team is the most professional the Conservatives have put forth in quite some time.

All their messaging is succinct and on point...Extremely well co-ordinated.

It's like the Conservatives are playing chess to the Liberals checkers.

Let's see how Carny does playing mop up on the campaign trail with an infuriated Canadian public at each stop.

It will help that they will have the CBC to red carpet them wherever they go however.

As I said before. The AI bots are scraping every speech, talk, etc they can find from every Davos type/climate/economic forum to get clips, quotes, and other things. These will be compiled for reels, commercials, and memes.

And then released. And he will be spending so much time defending himself that he won't have time to campaign properly. The hecklers will be out as well. Every campaign stop will have to be so tightly controlled no member of the public will be able to get close. He already denied entry to several at his first stop. He isn't used to this. He is used to private jets, to private cars, to private venues. And moving unseen. He isn't used to people not just outwardly disagreeing with him but being openly hostile to him. He is going to have to come down out of the ivory tower, and walk among the unwashed masses. And deal with their open displays of disdain.

I don't think he will be as effective as he thinks.

 

[Butler1000]

The Liberals are despised in Quebec, and Carney, with his grade 10 level French (He needs a teleprompter), hasn’t got a prayer of beating Poilievre in that regard. Quebec makes or brakes every election. Look at the recent drubbing the Liberals got in the byelection in Montreal.
Besides, Freeland has tons of support in the Liberal caucus. Every female member will vote for her.

He has to do the French Language debate. Nuff said.

 

[nottyboi]

Carney is the Lib's best chance to hold on to some seats. I don't believe he can save the Libs and us from Pee Pee unless Pierre steps into a pile of serious dog shit but he will do better than anyone else running.

Its still early, who knows. I think Trudeau just moved the needle too far left and Carney is a blue liberal. He is gonna offer a middle class tax cut and remove the carbon tax at the consumer level. So 2x Axe the Tax. People don't seem comfortable getting more then they paid into a tax it seems

 

[Frankfooter]

Once again butler, this has NOTHING to do with the Carney campaign team!!
Could have been some anti-Carney Conspiracy Theorist that conducted this act to make him look like an elitist!!
Only the rightie Conspiracy Theorist like you would jump to that 'catch"!!
But is Pee Pee who is ACTUALLY cozing up to the Global Elitists on several occasions to raise funds for his campaigns then okay and above criticism with you?

CBC says that the rental company took a name and phone number, that's it.
They screwed up.

That said, people are figuring out who did it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1880749460843802846

 

[jimiagain]

Privilege?

Outstanding academic record, gave up massive income opportunity at Goldman Sachs to work in finance ministry, then runs the Bank of Canada and the first non-Englishman to run the Bank of England before chairing two massively successful companies in Brookfield and Bloomberg.

He earned it.

You can attack policies, as I differ on many things with him, but in terms of actual accomplishment lets lose the stupid comments when the alternative is a guy nobody in Canada or elsewhere would hire to do anything.

The snowboard instructor left us in a non ideal place because experience and intelligence matter, but the Conservative equivalent on the other side can't hold a candle to Carney on actual achievement.

Again I differ with him on many things but Mark Carney is a heavyweight in real business circles while Poilievre, Trudeau, Freeland, etc are .... not.

At least Freeland has an education but not too much real world success.

Poilievre has done literally nothing in his life of any substance.

I'd like to see what Carney wants to DO vs SAY which is our current problem, but lets not look completely ridiculous with the bs.

I applaud his financial accomplishments but how does that make him qualified to run our country? He should be finance minister, not prime minister.

 

[Butler1000]

Privilege?

Outstanding academic record, gave up massive income opportunity at Goldman Sachs to work in finance ministry, then runs the Bank of Canada and the first non-Englishman to run the Bank of England before chairing two massively successful companies in Brookfield and Bloomberg.

He earned it.

You can attack policies, as I differ on many things with him, but in terms of actual accomplishment lets lose the stupid comments when the alternative is a guy nobody in Canada or elsewhere would hire to do anything.

The snowboard instructor left us in a non ideal place because experience and intelligence matter, but the Conservative equivalent on the other side can't hold a candle to Carney on actual achievement.

Again I differ with him on many things but Mark Carney is a heavyweight in real business circles while Poilievre, Trudeau, Freeland, etc are .... not.

At least Freeland has an education but not too much real world success.

Poilievre has done literally nothing in his life of any substance.

I'd like to see what Carney wants to DO vs SAY which is our current problem, but lets not look completely ridiculous with the bs.

If you don't think he has only run in privileged circles for decades you aren't paying attention. It changes perspective.

I'm getting some "I know what's good for you" vibes from him. And yes that matters as a politician.

Do I think he will take the Liberal Leadership? Probably. I think the fix is in.

And if you think he "sacrificed" to be a Central Banker you don't know how it works. I have no doubt he made millions on the side. Through insider trading. And then yes after as a reward for his Central Banker time.

I'm happy to discuss policy. From a world wide perspective the existing Neo-Liberal agenda is waning. Too much income inequality is causing a public shift to a more isolationist mindset.

There are many historical parallels to 1900-1925 and the last 25 years occuring that is making this shift happen. Carney's ideas are not going to resonate with the public. And no matter who is in place right now the Liberal Party is done for this cycle. He does not have the charisma to change that.

Business circles are not the nation.

 

[Frankfooter]

I applaud his financial accomplishments but how does that make him qualified to run our country? He should be finance minister, not prime minister.

But PeePee has no accomplishments, he's never had a real job and after 20 years in politics he's got a pension and zero accomplishments.
He even had to take foreign money to frame Patrick Brown just to win the conservative leadership.

 

[jimiagain]

But PeePee has no accomplishments, he's never had a real job and after 20 years in politics he's got a pension and zero accomplishments.
He even had to take foreign money to frame Patrick Brown just to win the conservative leadership.

Yet he's still better than a rapist drama teacher that has worn blackface more times than he can remember and thinks it's a good idea to do karaoke in a hotel lobby at the Queen's funeral. Some how I think we'll be ok.

 

[bver_hunter]

At the moment he is running the tightest messaging in a campaign in decades. Notice how no stupid mavericks have mentioned abortion, religion, other stupidity? He has a tight reign on the caucus. Only his handpicked people with specific instructions have spoken to the press and in Question Period.

He could get 50% of the vote. In a 6 party election that's huge.

And he will run a centrist policy driven govt. They always do.

All he is doing is stifling his caucus from speaking their minds, very much in line with despots and more further right than previous Conservative Governments!!

For now it is near 50%, but with a new leader in The Liberal Party that lead could erode though probably not enough for him to form a Government!!

He does not have the balls to speak out against Danielle Smith's stance as to the tariffs!!

 

[bver_hunter]

CBC says that the rental company took a name and phone number, that's it.
They screwed up.

That said, people are figuring out who did it.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1880749460843802846

Wonder whether Butler will now consider it to be a Conspiracy Theory?

But he at one time also worked for The Rebel news:

Keean Bexte says Farewell to Rebel News

Telling the other side of the story

www.rebelnews.com

Explains how they engage and add fuel to the Conspiracy theories!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Yet he's still better than a rapist drama teacher that has worn blackface more times than he can remember and thinks it's a good idea to do karaoke in a hotel lobby at the Queen's funeral. Some how I think we'll be ok.

Now Trudeau is supposed to be a "rapist"? What is the source of your "news"? Please Post, as this is the first time I have come across such an allegation!!
The only convicted sexual assaulter that was tantamount to being rape (as it had all the hallmarks of it ticked off) is a certain President Elect from down South!!

 

[Butler1000]

All he is doing is stifling his caucus from speaking their minds, very much in line with despots and more further right than previous Conservative Governments!!

For now it is near 50%, but with a new leader in The Liberal Party that lead could erode though probably not enough for him to form a Government!!

He does not have the balls to speak out against Danielle Smith's stance as to the tariffs!!

He has, in fact unified the caucus.

Seems to me the Liberals could use use a healthy dose of that.

I get it though, you see the grim writing on the Liberal tombstone.

 

[bver_hunter]

He has, in fact unified the caucus.

Seems to me the Liberals could use use a healthy dose of that.

I get it though, you see the grim writing on the Liberal tombstone.

Unified them by stifling their freedom to express their opinions in public!!
The Liberals are at least more transparent, though they screwed up with Freeland's resignation and the manner in which she did so.
Well Trudeau was in power for almost 10 years. Canadians always wants change and we saw that under similar circumstances with Harper.
We had enough of him in 2015!! So what's your point, as I'm being realistic about the present political climate?

 

[Butler1000]

Unified them by stifling their freedom to express their opinions in public!!
The Liberals are at least more transparent, though they screwed up with Freeland's resignation and the manner in which she did so.
Well Trudeau was in power for almost 10 years. Canadians always wants change and we saw that under similar circumstances with Harper.
We had enough of him in 2015!! So what's your point, as I'm being realistic about the present political climate?

Unified them with strong leadership. Vs where the Liberals are now.

You need to be realistic to 10 years of Conservatives in power.

 

[jimiagain]

Now Trudeau is supposed to be a "rapist"? What is the source of your "news"? Please Post, as this is the first time I have come across such an allegation!!
The only convicted sexual assaulter that was tantamount to being rape (as it had all the hallmarks of it ticked off) is a certain President Elect from down South!!

Not surprised. JT spent millions to bury the story. It happened in Kokonee BC and the woman took a payout and signed an NDA so good luck finding the story now but it is well known and the reason he stopped being a 'drama teacher' at the private school.

 

[Skoob]

The thing is with a face like his he really should wear a mask.

...which proves once again that liberals vote with their eyes not their heads.