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Another 1st round exists
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Many forget the Leafs were a draft lottery team in 2020, since they lost to Columbus in the playin round, they got a few ping pong balls in the pot.
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Leafs 17-6-1 Goal Diff 22 The best GAA in the East
Wild. 16-6-1 Goal Diff 20 One of the best offensive teams in the West right up there with Colorado and Edmonton
Wild. 16-6-1 Goal Diff 20 One of the best offensive teams in the West right up there with Colorado and Edmonton
The last great Leaf goalie passed away this month 4 years ago (R.I.P.). He played his last NHL game this month 52 years ago.
Johnny Bower - Wikipedia
Johnny Bower - Wikipedia
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Another 1st round exists
What in the world are you talking about? Are you saying that these guys were not great?
Jacques Plante
Bernie Parent
Curtis Joseph
Grant Fuhr
Ed Belfour
All great goalies that played for the Leafs. All, except for Cujo, are in the HoF. But he will be.
p.s. I suspect that you are going to let yourself get played here.
Jacques Plante played with the Leafs after he was great...Bernie Parent played for the Leafs before he was great...Grant Fuhr also played after he was great...Ed Belfour and Curtis Joseph may have been the Leafs best players when they played...none of the five played particularly long for the Leafs and are remembered best for playing for other teams.
From my other site.
"Johnny Bower on the Toronto Maple Leafs (1958-1970)
Honours & Hardware
Vezina Trophy Winner 1961
Vezina Trophy Winner 1965
1st Team All-Star 1961
Stanley Cup Champion 1962
Stanley Cup Champion 1963
Stanley Cup Champion 1964
Stanley Cup Champion 1967
2nd in Hart Memorial Trophy voting 1961
7th in Hart Memorial Trophy voting 1962
7th in Hart Memorial Trophy voting 1964
Played in 1961 NHL All-Star Game
Played in 1962 NHL All-Star Game
Played in 1963 NHL All-Star Game
Played in 1964 NHL All-Star Game
Hall of Fame Inductee
Number “1” Retired by Toronto Maple Leafs
Statue on the Toronto Maple Leafs Legends Row
Best Seasons on the Toronto Maple Leafs
1967-68: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.934) and #2 in NHL GAA (2.26)
2nd Best Single Season SV% in Toronto Maple Leafs History
7th Best Single Season SV% in NHL History
1963-64: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.932) and #1 in NHL GAA (2.11)
4th Best Single Season SV% in Toronto Maple Leafs History
17th Best Single Season SV% in NHL History
10th Best Single Season GAA in Toronto Maple Leafs History
1965-66: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.930) and #1 in NHL GAA (2.26)
5th Best Single Season SV% in Toronto Maple Leafs History
29th Best Single Season SV% in NHL History
1959-60: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.919) and #4 in NHL GAA (2.69)
1960-61: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.923) and #2 in NHL GAA (2.50)
1964-65: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.924) and #1 in NHL GAA (2.38)
1966-67: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.925) and #5 in NHL GAA (2.65)
1958-59: Ranked #2 in NHL SV% (.914) and #2 in NHL GAA (2.72)
1961-62: Ranked #2 in NHL SV% (.917) and #2 in NHL GAA (2.56)
1962-63: Ranked #3 in NHL SV% (.912) and #5 in NHL GAA (2.60)
1953-54: Ranked #4 in NHL GAA (2.54)
Toronto Maple Leafs Career
4th Best Toronto Maple Leafs Career SV% in History (.922)
10th Best Toronto Maple Leafs Career GAA in History (2.50)
Johnny Bower led the NHL in save percentage an astounding seven times. He also has the second best career save percentage in NHL history behind only Dominik Hasek.
He’s one of the best goaltenders of all-time and played in an era that included legendary goaltenders Jacques Plante, Glenn Hall and Terry Sawchuk. Bower didn’t win as many Vezinas or get as many all-star votes, but his stats don’t lie.
NEXT:Should Curtis Joseph Be in the Hall of Fame?
It’s also worth noting that he didn’t join with the Toronto Maple Leafs until the age of 33 and didn’t retire until he was 46.
RedCorn
28 October, 2021Freddy is not an honorable mention. His numbers put him somewhere between Potvin and Cujo. He lands in between those two in a few categories shut outs bring one. 4th all-time in wins, again middling those two, 11 behind Felix and 9 ahead of Curtis. 7th in sv%. He broke at least one franchise record...See more
Kane
28 October, 2021
I agree with all the bloggers who rated Freddie higher. I personally believe like them, that people and the organization don't give Freddie his due respect. It is unfortunate his most people remember Freddie as the goalie in the game 7 meltdowns, and not the goalie with a stellar career in Toronto.
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"Johnny Bower on the Toronto Maple Leafs (1958-1970)
Honours & Hardware
Vezina Trophy Winner 1961
Vezina Trophy Winner 1965
1st Team All-Star 1961
Stanley Cup Champion 1962
Stanley Cup Champion 1963
Stanley Cup Champion 1964
Stanley Cup Champion 1967
2nd in Hart Memorial Trophy voting 1961
7th in Hart Memorial Trophy voting 1962
7th in Hart Memorial Trophy voting 1964
Played in 1961 NHL All-Star Game
Played in 1962 NHL All-Star Game
Played in 1963 NHL All-Star Game
Played in 1964 NHL All-Star Game
Hall of Fame Inductee
Number “1” Retired by Toronto Maple Leafs
Statue on the Toronto Maple Leafs Legends Row
Best Seasons on the Toronto Maple Leafs
1967-68: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.934) and #2 in NHL GAA (2.26)
2nd Best Single Season SV% in Toronto Maple Leafs History
7th Best Single Season SV% in NHL History
1963-64: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.932) and #1 in NHL GAA (2.11)
4th Best Single Season SV% in Toronto Maple Leafs History
17th Best Single Season SV% in NHL History
10th Best Single Season GAA in Toronto Maple Leafs History
1965-66: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.930) and #1 in NHL GAA (2.26)
5th Best Single Season SV% in Toronto Maple Leafs History
29th Best Single Season SV% in NHL History
1959-60: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.919) and #4 in NHL GAA (2.69)
1960-61: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.923) and #2 in NHL GAA (2.50)
1964-65: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.924) and #1 in NHL GAA (2.38)
1966-67: Ranked #1 in NHL SV% (.925) and #5 in NHL GAA (2.65)
1958-59: Ranked #2 in NHL SV% (.914) and #2 in NHL GAA (2.72)
1961-62: Ranked #2 in NHL SV% (.917) and #2 in NHL GAA (2.56)
1962-63: Ranked #3 in NHL SV% (.912) and #5 in NHL GAA (2.60)
1953-54: Ranked #4 in NHL GAA (2.54)
Toronto Maple Leafs Career
4th Best Toronto Maple Leafs Career SV% in History (.922)
10th Best Toronto Maple Leafs Career GAA in History (2.50)
Johnny Bower led the NHL in save percentage an astounding seven times. He also has the second best career save percentage in NHL history behind only Dominik Hasek.
He’s one of the best goaltenders of all-time and played in an era that included legendary goaltenders Jacques Plante, Glenn Hall and Terry Sawchuk. Bower didn’t win as many Vezinas or get as many all-star votes, but his stats don’t lie.
NEXT:Should Curtis Joseph Be in the Hall of Fame?
It’s also worth noting that he didn’t join with the Toronto Maple Leafs until the age of 33 and didn’t retire until he was 46.
RedCorn
28 October, 2021Freddy is not an honorable mention. His numbers put him somewhere between Potvin and Cujo. He lands in between those two in a few categories shut outs bring one. 4th all-time in wins, again middling those two, 11 behind Felix and 9 ahead of Curtis. 7th in sv%. He broke at least one franchise record...See more
Kane
28 October, 2021
I agree with all the bloggers who rated Freddie higher. I personally believe like them, that people and the organization don't give Freddie his due respect. It is unfortunate his most people remember Freddie as the goalie in the game 7 meltdowns, and not the goalie with a stellar career in Toronto.
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Stinker
28 October, 2021
Based on talent, Bower,Sawchuk,Plante,Broda and Bernie Parent should be near the top. The team also had Gerry Cheevers in the system. Of course, this is about performances on the Leafs. Good job Mike.
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Eric Blair
31 October, 2021
Re: Ed Chadwick, it should have been noted that he set the Maple Leafs record for goaltenders by playing in all 140 games in the 1956-57 and 1957-58 seasons. The team missed the playoffs in both years, but he managed 9 shut-outs.
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Mike in Ottawa
28 October, 2021
Nice column. Kudos on the research. Unfortunately you'll probably only get about 10 comments for all your hard work while Tanner's next piece, replete with errors, typos, erroneous facts and outright fantasy will garner a couple of hundred.
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RedCorn
28 October, 2021
Very true. Good research I agree although I disagree with Freddy's standing as an honorable mention. 4th all-time in wins alone speaks to his accomplishments among other things in Toronto. Take into consideration he was here starting with a team that iced 15 rookies and he faced a 1000 shots a night...See more
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BlueBus
28 October, 2021
Interesting article. I learned something reading this. Thanks, Mike (Hot Foods Eating Record Holder) Jack!
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Darryl Rose
28 October, 2021
You know you're old when you've seen 9 out of 10 play. For some reason when I think of Toronto goaltenders I think favell and palmateer. No particular reason they just popped in my head first.
RomanC
1 November, 2021
Not counting Clancy, Conacher, Horner or Levinsky filled in for a minute or two for injuries or penalties in the 1930s, of the 86 goalies that played for Toronto in their 105 seasons, 65 are still alive.
RomanC
1 November, 2021
Favell. I remember a playoff game against Bobby Orr's Bruins, Doug stopping breakaway after breakaway, he was unreal in that game, lost 1-0. First goalie to paint his mask, it was full orange, Hollowe'en time. April 2, 1972, last game of the regular season, Gerry Meehan scored on Favell with 4 s...See more
ReservoirDog
28 October, 2021
Wonder where Tukka Rask would have ranked if they kept him?
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RomanC
28 October, 2021
Great point. But we can't always assume all things are equal had they kept him. Had he been in the Leafs system, just as likely he could have been burned by the system too, like all the other prospects, never developed. Leafs seem to have trouble graduating Scott and Woll. At the time of Rask's ...See more
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Christopher Nowak
29 October, 2021
JACK CAMPBELL: THE best goaltender in NHL history!!; 1) 20-5-3 in his last 28 regular season games!! 2) An 11 game winning streak to start a season: A RECORD FOR ALL NHL GOALTENDERS ever!!! 3) 3-2-1 on a VERY LOUSY TORONTO MAPLE LEAF TEAM! Most goaltenders would be 0-6!!
Christopher Nowak
30 October, 2021
The LEAFS finally score more than THREE goals in ONE game!! They finally BEAT a GOOD team!!! MARNER is finally out of his slump! I don't know about MATTHEWS!! Definitely NOT 55!...See more"
Signing players after their best before date is a pattern with the Leafs (Thornton, Spezza, Simmonds, etc.). I also vaguely remember the Leafs signing an aging Dickie Moore.
BTW: Both Gerry Cheevers ( Gerald Michael "Cheesie" Cheevers (born 7 December 1940)) and Tukka Rask were in the Leaf system but their glory years were/are with the Bruins.
"The Toronto Maple Leafs drafted Rask in the first round, 21st overall, in the 2005 NHL Entry Draft. However, before playing a regular season game for Toronto, he was traded to the Boston Bruins in exchange for former Calder Memorial Trophy-winning goaltender Andrew Raycroft. Toronto management had deemed Justin Pogge their potential goaltender of the future, rendering Rask expendable. It was later revealed the Bruins intended to release Raycroft, which would have made him available to Toronto without having to give up Rask."
Tuukka Rask - Wikipedia
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The problem with the Maple Leafs is they listen to the fools in the media. Signing Joe Thorton was one of those he's a hometown boy who brings charatcer to the locker room signings. They tarded Tukka Rask and kept Justin Pogge because the media wouldn't shut the fuck up about Pogge being a good ole Canadian kid. It was obvious then that Rask was the better played with a brighter future.
No Ferguson admitted they would've taken Pogge too but the fans and media would've flipped out if he traded away the Canadian kid instead of the non Canadian kid. They could've gotten Raycroft for less but Ferguson was worried that someone would given the Bruins a higher draft pick.
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I think it's the opposite, the Leafs do what they do and the media puppets jump on board and tow the corporate line.
Everyone feeds at the MLSE trough.
The Thornton signing was a 1 year, minimum $ contract.
He was here for two reasons, yes for character, to bring in someone of his stature to give some leadership after they got bounced
by Columbus the previous year. He was also cheap, Leafs hand their hands strapped, an oldie but a goodie with the hope he still
had something left in him.
He didn't fulfill all the unrealistic expectations put on him but I thought it was a positive experience overall.
The core guys bought into him, especially Matthews, I think Thornton left something good behind.
I think Marleau was a better signing for the young guys than Joe was. I don't see what impact Joe could have in the locker room when he's 40 and can't prove it anymore. But look at other past signings of hometown boys. David Clarkson comes to mind. The media put it out there that he was the best free agent on the market and the Leafs jump on it.
The point was that if dartsy wants to use Tony Esposito, whom they let go of on waivers, as an example of a great goalie who played for the Canadiens, then those are all examples of great goalies who played for the Leafs.
Esposito played 13 games for Montreal. Montreal missed the playoffs with Vachon and then they replaced him as #1 and traded him away. The Kings showed faith in him and that's where he got his HoF credentials.
darts says that bower was the last great goalie to play for the Leafs. I listed 5 other great goalies that played for the Leafs.
darts has yet to provide any link where somebody, anybody, describes the "Montreal system" of building a team. He totally made it up.
