The flu shot is usually only about 40-50% efficacy in preventing you catching it.
It is still encouraged because having a broad level of some immunity helps prevent seasonal outbreaks from being worse than they are.
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It is still encouraged because having a broad level of some immunity helps prevent seasonal outbreaks from being worse than they are.
I thought terb was full of business literate clientele. I guess not.
Same time last year is a metric used by virtually every business.
Last year we had nobody vaccinated, a much deadlier variant circulating and a fraction of the cases and hospitalizations that we have now.
Something doesn’t add up. Or something does.
Furthermore, if it was -20 on this day last year, but it’s +30 today…that’s an indicator.
You’ve been indicated.
It doesn't matter. We are now beyond studies and "science ". Now, we're into dogma and faith. We are at a stage where we dismiss the real world data in order to support theories and government policies. Hence, we wear cloth masks to protect us from an airborne virus that flies right through them and we insist on using vaccines on our children that were designed for the "classic " Covid-19. While the Omicron keeps doing its victory dance through the unvaxed, vaxed and boosted with no opposition.
But the omnicron is way less severe and even compared to the common cold so a vaccine is not needed. It doesn't even affect the lungs according to experts.
Or not. The only solution is constant testing for a few months with selective quartines and no a two or three year no travel quartine AND world wide cooperation. The fact is that eventually the world will produce a vacine immune varient, that is more deadly with a high R number if the present course and concern about vaccine continues. Vaccines are but a big short term solution but long term they are only part of the solution. And as said, the organization to get one - having people line up so they can be expoused - when it is know that the vaccine fails 5 per cent of the time - is insane.
I approve this message: just got mine a day before the New Year - got it from a fully vaccinated, who infected 3 other in my family...so, total 4 people infected, one unvaxed, 3 fully vaxxed, similar outcome:
all 4 had mild fever, cough, body aches, sour throat. Recovery time was up to a week, severity - on the level of medium intensity cold. Post covid symptoms: some light cough, loss of smell and taste.
Those are both correct and not mutually exclusive.
There is less of the "OMG gonna kill us" etc. as more of us get vaxxed and are now not as concerned about dying. The next priority is the health care system.
I'm glad to have explained this non-phenomenon to you.
Does death by vaccine count as herd immunity. I know it's legal immunity for big pharma.
So what is this?
Report 49 - Growth, population distribution and immune escape of Omicron in England
Report 49 - Growth, population distribution and immune escape of Omicron in England
www.imperial.ac.uk
Sorry Warren Buffet, that would make sense if we're selling widgets, but instead we're talking about two very different variants.
The only apples to apples comparison is vaccinated versus unvaxxed. THAT is the indicator to focus on since both sides are facing the same variants at the same time, the parameters are the same between vaxxed and unvaxxed.
Inside an ICU where 70 per cent of COVID-19 patients are unvaccinated
This is where the Omicron wave is starting to show its worst side: inside the ICU at Toronto General, which is filling up with critically ill COVID-19 patients, the majority of whom are unvaccinated.
At Toronto General, which cares for the sickest COVID-19 patients, 70 per cent in the intensive care unit are not vaccinated. In Canada the unvaccinated make up less than 13 per cent of the population.
At Toronto General, which cares for the sickest COVID-19 patients, 70 per cent in the intensive care unit are not vaccinated.
“In our units we're seeing about two thirds of our patients are relatively young, unvaccinated and are showing up with severe disease,” Ferguson said.
While Omicron is milder for those with immunity, and is causing fewer deaths than earlier waves, it is still sending more people to hospital around the world due to its high spread.
Those who end up hospitalized tend to fit two profiles: unvaccinated people with little to no comorbidities, and those with some protection from vaccination but also other risk factors that caused them to be more at risk.
Fully vaccinated people are still far less likely to be hospitalized with the virus. According to the Ontario Science Table’s online dashboard, on Tuesday there were 762 hospitalizations per one million people among the unvaccinated, compared to 171 hospitalizations per one million people among those with at least two vaccine doses.
THOSE are indicators, my friend!
See what I put in bold? Vaccinated in hospital are who we expect to be there, the most vulnerable with pre-existing health concerns. The unvaccinated in hospitals are largely young, healthy with few comorbidities.
This isn't computer sales year to year to find trends. The only comparison to make are the two groups.
I actually meant to bring that up earlier and got on another rant. Yes, those carrying on about "2000" should read about about Survivorship Bias.
Abraham Wald and the Missing Bullet Holes
An excerpt from How Not To Be Wrong by Jordan Ellenberg
So here’s the question. You don’t want your planes to get shot down by enemy fighters, so you armor them. But armor makes the plane heavier, and heavier planes are less maneuverable and use more fuel. Armoring the planes too much is a problem; armoring the planes too little is a problem. Somewhere in between there’s an optimum.
When American planes came back from engagements over Europe, they were covered in bullet holes. But the damage wasn’t uniformly distributed across the aircraft. There were more bullet holes in the fuselage, not so many in the engines.
The officers saw an opportunity for efficiency; you can get the same protection with less armor if you concentrate the armor on the places with the greatest need, where the planes are getting hit the most.
The reason planes were coming back with fewer hits to the engine is that planes that got hit in the engine weren’t coming back. Whereas the large number of planes returning to base with a thoroughly Swiss-cheesed fuselage is pretty strong evidence that hits to the fuselage can (and therefore should) be tolerated. If you go to the recovery room at the hospital, you’ll see a lot more people with bullet holes in their legs than people with bullet holes in their chests. But that’s not because people don’t get shot in the chest; it’s because the people who get shot in the chest don’t recover.
So that 2000 vaccinated in hospitals, most of whom have preexisting conditions would have been 6 feet under if not for vaccination. That these vulnerable are in hospital instead is a testament to vaccines, not an indictment.
It will take a while for the "experts ", the governments, unions, the media and the fearful sheep to accept the news. They might even drag us through another lockdown in the spring, although I don't think so. They have everything invested in their vaccine "solution " and saving face is the hill most people are willing to die on. They are still pushing the vaccines as hard as ever even though it's obvious they don't work.
Drunk driving is a joke. My uncle drove sloshed all the time and never got into an accident.
Smoking is a joke grandpa smoked 5 packs a day and lived till he was 96 and died only after being raped by elephants.
The unending stream of derp from the plague enthusiasts is unending.
Never mind that this has been pointed out over and over again.
Never mind the assholery of doing the "well I was fine and those who did get long covid or die can all go fuck themselves attitude.
Also you don't know who you caught it from, that is a flat out lie right there.
[OK the part about the grandfather I made up but there are people like that... my uncle was however a raging drunk]
