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roddermac

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I didn't understand the big deal made about Laughton before the trade deadline, and I understand it even lesss now. I don't mind them trading Grebenkin, but the 2027 first rounder will hurt.
The first round pick wasn't for Laughton but for his salary and cap hit retention. Same with Brandon Carlo and Jake McCabe.
 

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I could be wrong, but it says in this article that the Scott Laughton trade included the Leafs 2027 1st round draft pick??


March 07, 2025




The Toronto Maple Leafs announced today that the hockey club has acquired forward Scott Laughton, a fourth-round selection in 2025 NHL Draft and a sixth-round selection in the 2027 NHL Draft from Philadelphia in exchange for Toronto’s first-round selection in the 2027 NHL Draft and forward Nikita Grebenkin. The Flyers are retaining 50% of Laughton’s salary.
Laughton, 30, has recorded 27 points (11 goals, 16 assists) in 60 games with the Philadelphia Flyers this season. In 661 career NHL games, The Oakville, ON native has registered 265 points (106 goals, 159 assists) and 386 penalty minutes while adding 10 points (six goals, four assists) in 24 playoff games.
Laughton was originally drafted by the Philadelphia Flyers in the first round (20th overall) of the 2012 NHL Draft.
As I stated the first round pick is compensation for salary retention. How else do you think they were able to fit both players contracts under their tight cap. It was the same when Dubas acquired McCabe and Lafferty a couple of seasons ago at the deadline.
 
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Will Rogers eat the loss if Vlady is not resigned? There's only a %30 chance will the unknown will work out. If the Jays let him walk they lose all credibility.

Vlady working hard while Teoscar busts his balls.

 
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Berube's play style is dump and chase, less risk and turnovers going back for odd man rushes.
Under this system Leafs are the 8th highest scoring team in the league on a per game basis
They're ahead of teams like Oilers and Panthers. All teams, aside from Columbus, in this grouping are sure fire playoff calibre teams.

They supposedly now have the best D grouping, goalie tandem, and bottom 6 depth forwards they've ever had under the Matthews era. Treliving went all in by trading 2 first round picks and 2 prospects. They don't have a 1st round pick for the next 3 drafts. They were probably willing to give up even more for Brayden Schenn.

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Berube's play style is dump and chase, less risk and turnovers going back for odd man rushes.
Under this system Leafs are still the 6th highest scoring team in the league on a per game basis although it may not appear that way. They're ahead of teams like Oilers and Panthers. All top 8 are playoff calibre teams.

They supposedly now have the best D grouping, goalie tandem, and bottom 6 depth forwards they've ever had under the Matthews era. Treliving went all in by trading 2 first round picks and 2 prospects. They don't have a 1st round pick for the next 3 drafts. They were probably willing to give up even more for Brayden Schenn.

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Actually they're 10th, you missed Columbus, Winnipeg, and Vegas.
Also, goal differential may be even more important, they're lagging significantly behind the major contenders.
 
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Will Rogers eat the loss if Vlady is not resigned? There's only a %30 chance will the unknown will work out. If the Jays let him walk they lose all credibility.
Bingo. It makes no sense whatsoever from an economic or public relations point of view. They want to raise prices but then not spend the money on their homegrown superstar? How far will that fly with fans.

Vlady working hard while Teoscar busts his balls.

I hope mitch sees how fat Vladdy is getting. Look at those biceps and he's not even flexing them.

edit: Wait! This is a Leafs thread. You suckered me in.
 
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To my point about the Leaf organization.
Maple Leafs fans outraged after season-ticket prices raised | Toronto Sun

This organization is strictly a corporate, old boys country club, watching a game at Scotia is my worst experience of watching any sporting event.
They rape you at the gate, they rape you at the concessions, half empty platinums at the beginning of periods.
Even Ottawa has a better atmosphere.
It's soulless and heartless, and that's permeated down to the team on the ice.
If I was a pro, Toronto would be way down on the list of teams I would want to play for.
 

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Vladdy is not a superstar. Vladdy is nowhere close to players such as Judge and Ohtani etc
That's an opinion. But I'd say that somebody who will probably have the 3rd largest contract in the history of baseball, is most likely a superstar. Stars don't get that but superstars do.
 

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Well, I have just as much of a right to my opinion, as you do.
Nobody said otherwise. I simply said that it was an opinion which implies that it's not fact as you seem to infer.

And I believe that I have the right to state the reasons why I feel that your opinion is wrong. It's equal on both sides. The difference maker is who has more facts/evidence and who uses more conjecture.
 

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That's debatable, about how realistic, you really are....LMAO
A debate about a debate. Gotta love it.

But you admitted that I was being realistic when you pointed out how I used the key words "should be" instead of "will be". I just won the debate about the debate.
 
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I totally admit, I don't understand all this "salary cap" stuff. What I do know is that the Leafs are trading away a lot their first round draft choices!!
I understand the worry. We've seen how it turns out for them in the end. But Tampa Florida Dallas and Colorado are also doing the same. If these picks end up being bottom 5 who cares but if they're top 5 it's Lindos Niedermeyer Luongo Seguin Hamilton all over again.
 
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